Article about american waist getting bigger but not a higher body weight

[robblok]

I just read in the Dutch newspaper an article about Americans that their waist went from 95,5 to 98,5 cm in the years 1999 to 2012 though other research from 2002 to 2012 shows that they are not getting heavier. (was in the article)

For me that sounds like too much carbs and getting insulin resistant and that means extra fat on the belly.

The article itself blames it on not enough sleep and medicines.

Though I am by no means smarter as the people who did the research and they got the data and I don't many regular scientist still don't want to blame high carbs for problems like this because of the political and economical implications. nice to see im almost 25 cm under their average. (and they included males and females not just males)

It is a good sign that the Americans did not get any fatter, but bad of course that the fat went to their belly and that is a high risk area.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/16/waist-sizes-expanding-study/15723771/

just found the English translation and there they did talk about High sugar diets (carbs) so I was right.

Just one thing to add.. they also talked about weight training being effective at combating this.... nice.

Sorry just started typing translating the Dutch site before i found the English source.

Mea culpa

Edited September 17, 2014 by robblok

[h90]

not enough sleep, rofl......

I didn't read the article....but could it mean that they got less muscle and more fat at the same weight?

[robblok]

Possible,

Just to make this clear... not an american bash topic. I wonder if the same applies for other countries or not. Sounds a lot like insuline resistance from too much carbs (sugars) and maybe low progesterone(also helps to get fat around the belly)

Your suggestion about the muscle is also real valid.. less muscle.. same weight more fat.. Just proves that weight isn't everything.. its also about muscle and where the fat is located.

[PiPiFFS]

I watched a very interesting documentary last night. Called " Fed Up " Well worth downloading and watching. The powers that be tell you that you are fat because you need to eat less and exercise more yet the biggest boom in going to the gym also saw the greatest increase in obesity. It shows how the food industry has forced the Governments to allow foods and additives that really should be banned.

A real eye opener

[robblok]

I watched a very interesting documentary last night. Called " Fed Up " Well worth downloading and watching. The powers that be tell you that you are fat because you need to eat less and exercise more yet the biggest boom in going to the gym also saw the greatest increase in obesity. It shows how the food industry has forced the Governments to allow foods and additives that really should be banned.

A real eye opener

I can only tell you that exercise combined with the right foods (home made not store bought with addetives) can transform your body. But those foods are not as nice as the ones of the food industry. Plus loads of people want to keep eating in restaurants and constantly and wonder why they don't loose weight. (not that eating out is always bad but if you do it constantly your far more likely to overeat as when you cook for yourself.

[waynethor]

I watched a very interesting documentary last night. Called " Fed Up " Well worth downloading and watching. The powers that be tell you that you are fat because you need to eat less and exercise more yet the biggest boom in going to the gym also saw the greatest increase in obesity. It shows how the food industry has forced the Governments to allow foods and additives that really should be banned.

A real eye opener

Well worth watching. I watched it a couple of days ago and wasn't surprised by a lot of it because I was already aware of how big food business has completely taken control of the USDA (US Dept. of Agriculture). It's a sad story and paints a very bleak picture for the future of American (and other nations) children's health.

Some of the absurd highlights are interesting, I think. When schools were regulated to force the students to include some fruit and vegetables into their diets, a company in Minnesota that provides 70% of the pizza sold is US schools was worried about maintaining all its 3+ billion dollars of annual revenue and had the US congress include pizza as a vegetable. BTW, according to the US laws that are supposed to act in the best interest of its citizens, processed french fries also count as a vegetable in a student's diet.

Some of things said by people who are paid to represent big food business are also amazing, and I have to wonder how these people can sleep at night or look themselves in the mirror. Here's my favorite: When a marketing executive for McDonald's was grilled (no pun intended) about using Ronald McDonald as a marketing tool aimed at children, she actually had the gall to say "“Ronald McDonald never sells to children...he inspires through magic and fun.”

[h90]

Possible,

Just to make this clear... not an american bash topic. I wonder if the same applies for other countries or not. Sounds a lot like insuline resistance from too much carbs (sugars) and maybe low progesterone(also helps to get fat around the belly)

Your suggestion about the muscle is also real valid.. less muscle.. same weight more fat.. Just proves that weight isn't everything.. its also about muscle and where the fat is located.

Well the problem is the same around the world....Not only USA.....

[h90]

What I noticed on my last stay in Austria:

In average most people were mild overweight before.

Over the last say 15 years it shifted: Now there are more that are perfectly slim and the rest is more overweight.

Now either slim or really fat. While before everyone was just "well fed".

And it goes mostly with the social status...As better as slimmer in average. I am sure it is the "industry" food. Traditional Austrian food is fat and has a lot sweet cakes. If you eat too much you look "well fed" a bit overweight but not these massive weight of people who almost can't walk anymore.

[Jingthing]

Well, this is an interesting study in focusing on waist size as an important health risk factor, more so than BMI.

The link between not sleeping enough and obesity has been well established scientifically for a long time.

It's easier said than done though to deal with this with enough sleep for people who are working, often multiple jobs, family responsibilities,and the temptations of free time socializing and entertainments.

I can see this problem might even be worse than most countries in the USA ... most people need to work more for less real value in recent decades.

On the other hand it probably sounds easier for people to sleep more than become a gym rat!

I am interested in the comment in the study about MEDICATIONS.

Does anyone know which types of medications exactly they are talking about?

Yes I am on a few that might be problematical but also asking for general information.

It seems to me if they are going to point the finger at medications, they really should be MORE SPECIFIC, yes?

http://www.citylab.com/work/2014/09/americans-waistlines-are-growing-ever-larger/380257/

Americans' Waistlines Are Growing Ever Larger

Possible reasons include sleep deprivation and medication, says a new study.

Personally, I suppose I should be pleased with myself that I have brought DOWN my waist size to be UNDER the definition of obesity based on waist size.

Edited September 17, 2014 by Jingthing

[robblok]

Well, this is an interesting study in focusing on waist size as an important health risk factor, more so than BMI.

The link between not sleeping enough and obesity has been well established scientifically for a long time.

It's easier said than done though to deal with this with enough sleep for people who are working, often multiple jobs, family responsibilities,and the temptations of free time socializing and entertainments.

I can see this problem might even be worse than most countries in the USA ... most people need to work more for less real value in recent decades.

On the other hand it probably sounds easier for people to sleep more than become a gym rat!

I am interested in the comment in the study about MEDICATIONS.

Does anyone know which types of medications exactly they are talking about?

Yes I am on a few that might be problematical but also asking for general information.

It seems to me if they are going to point the finger at medications, they really should be MORE SPECIFIC, yes?

http://www.citylab.com/work/2014/09/americans-waistlines-are-growing-ever-larger/380257/

Americans' Waistlines Are Growing Ever Larger

Possible reasons include sleep deprivation and medication, says a new study.

Personally, I suppose I should be pleased with myself that I have brought DOWN my waist size to be UNDER the definition of obesity based on waist size.

Later they blame carbs and sugars... so its a bit dual and maybe in the real study more info will be revealed but in this news piece not so much.

However from experience i know that my dads heart medicine keep him fat. The guy has biked 7000km this year already and has had a month off and in winter he does not bike. Its quite normal for him to bike a couple of 100 km a week. He is loosing weight now but not at a speed that you would think it would go off. I did some rides with him 3-4 hour rides not a huge pace but he was fit and keeping up with him if i was untrained would have been hard.

Now that he took some care in what he was eating he lost more weight.. but seriously his medicines are hampering his efforts.

[robblok]

What I noticed on my last stay in Austria:

In average most people were mild overweight before.

Over the last say 15 years it shifted: Now there are more that are perfectly slim and the rest is more overweight.

Now either slim or really fat. While before everyone was just "well fed".

And it goes mostly with the social status...As better as slimmer in average. I am sure it is the "industry" food. Traditional Austrian food is fat and has a lot sweet cakes. If you eat too much you look "well fed" a bit overweight but not these massive weight of people who almost can't walk anymore.

Same in the Netherlands.. either really big or small. But seriously in my village did not see many really big people. But also saw much more healthy food in the supermarkets at good prices. A good meal salad for only 4 euros that is similar priced with bad stuff. So I do thinks things are getting better. But there is so much nice food available too.. it just a matter of not buying it.

[h90]

Well, this is an interesting study in focusing on waist size as an important health risk factor, more so than BMI.

The link between not sleeping enough and obesity has been well established scientifically for a long time.

It's easier said than done though to deal with this with enough sleep for people who are working, often multiple jobs, family responsibilities,and the temptations of free time socializing and entertainments.

I can see this problem might even be worse than most countries in the USA ... most people need to work more for less real value in recent decades.

On the other hand it probably sounds easier for people to sleep more than become a gym rat!

I am interested in the comment in the study about MEDICATIONS.

Does anyone know which types of medications exactly they are talking about?

Yes I am on a few that might be problematical but also asking for general information.

It seems to me if they are going to point the finger at medications, they really should be MORE SPECIFIC, yes?

http://www.citylab.com/work/2014/09/americans-waistlines-are-growing-ever-larger/380257/

Americans' Waistlines Are Growing Ever Larger

Possible reasons include sleep deprivation and medication, says a new study.

Personally, I suppose I should be pleased with myself that I have brought DOWN my waist size to be UNDER the definition of obesity based on waist size.

When I don't sleep enough, I need some carbs, best sweet things to continue to function, that may explain why it makes fat.

For me, always when the body has some bigger stress.....too less sleep, starting to get sick, something out of balance I crave sweet things and feel like I don't have the power to process something like fat meat.

Many people say that when they are stressed they eat a lot.

I can also understand the social factor: You have 2 jobs and still the money is not enough, you have a lot pressure in the work, you are tired, you don't have any hope for a better future.....What can you do at evening....Eat some cheap food and enough that little bit of your life what other is left to enjoy?

That is also the reason why the poor people and less educated get more fat. They can't enjoy themself playing golf and planing their next holiday. And they can't go jogging as they are dead tired after 2 jobs.

Actually that is sad.....

[h90]

What I noticed on my last stay in Austria:

In average most people were mild overweight before.

Over the last say 15 years it shifted: Now there are more that are perfectly slim and the rest is more overweight.

Now either slim or really fat. While before everyone was just "well fed".

And it goes mostly with the social status...As better as slimmer in average. I am sure it is the "industry" food. Traditional Austrian food is fat and has a lot sweet cakes. If you eat too much you look "well fed" a bit overweight but not these massive weight of people who almost can't walk anymore.

Same in the Netherlands.. either really big or small. But seriously in my village did not see many really big people. But also saw much more healthy food in the supermarkets at good prices. A good meal salad for only 4 euros that is similar priced with bad stuff. So I do thinks things are getting better. But there is so much nice food available too.. it just a matter of not buying it.

On the food...I saw a lot more healthy good quality food, but I also saw a lot more junk food and the junk quality got worse (more sugar more chemicals, etc).

Here also the average is gone.

Now a sausage is either fully loaded with chemicals and MSG or it is Organic and perfect. The average sausage is almost gone.

The extremes got a lot stronger.

No not that many extreme bigs yet in compare to other countries but a clear shift to heavier (or slim).

[robblok]

@JT nicely done getting your waist down to below obesity levels. Must feel good to see progress.