Lite Beer Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Myanmar murder suspects escorted to Samui court for extended detention KOH TAO: -- Two Myanmar rape murder suspects were this morning escorted by the police from Phangan island to Samui island for permission from the court to detain them 12 more days for further questioning. Win or Wepew, 21, and Cholin or Soren, 21, both of Arakanese ethnics, were handcuffed and taken on board a speed boat from Phangan island to Koh Samui under protection by about 10 police, both in uniforms and plainclothes.The travel to Ban Nathon pier on Samui took three hours. Both were later put in car to the Samui provincial court.The police sought 12 days from the court to further detain the two suspects with reason that the 48 hours allowed by law to detain them has expired while they still needed more time for questioning.The police said they would officially indict the two suspects on October 8.The two suspects were seen to be very exhausted as they have been questioned throughout the night.While at Samui police station, Win, a prime suspect, who spoke little Thai as he has been working on Koh Tao for three years, admitted to the murder of David miller and raping and killing of Ms Hannah Witheridge.Another suspect, Mao, was not escorted to the court today as the police have booked him as the witness to the case.Mao was playing guitar with the two suspects but left to see his girlfriend before the murder took place.Earlier he was also charged, but after the two confirmed he was not involved, and DNA test did not match the samples collected on the victim’s body, the police freed him but still kept him as witness. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/myanmar-murder-suspects-escorted-samui-court-extended-detention/ -- Thai PBS 2014-10-04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjules007 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 So not 100 percent sure then? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnsen Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Questioned throughout the night..... Should more likely read learnt their script throughout the night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commerce Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Why the need for extended detention, if the proof is there? Quite simply, because it's not, and the whole world of Thai policing now plays a major role, watched by the world's media. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLock Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Hang on...I thought they had been charged? And they already conducted the media circus crime re-enactment? Requesting 12 more days of detention because the 48 hours has expired? Confusing. Might want to slow down on those rewards...sounds like they may be a bit premature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Questioned throughout the night..... Should more likely read learnt their script throughout the night. Also changed their DNA during the night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 The two suspects were seen to be very exhausted as they have been questioned throughout the night. And presumably without a lawyer again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnThailandJohn Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Why the need for extended detention, if the proof is there? Quite simply, because it's not, and the whole world of Thai policing now plays a major role, watched by the world's media. It is simply the legal process. There is only a finite time police can hold a person without the court's approval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Soutpeel Posted October 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2014 the travel to Ban Nathon pier on Samui took three hours. I am very impressed the suspects didn't fall out the speed boat and "drown" on the way... 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldave1951 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 but in thailand oh i get it now the world is watching they going to do something correct just to show they can if they try Why the need for extended detention, if the proof is there? Quite simply, because it's not, and the whole world of Thai policing now plays a major role, watched by the world's media. It is simply the legal process. There is only a finite time police can hold a person without the court's approval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldave1951 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 need another twelve days to totally brain wash and reprogram so they will not say sorry WE did not do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldave1951 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 in court if theyever get there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony5 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Why the need for extended detention, if the proof is there? Quite simply, because it's not, and the whole world of Thai policing now plays a major role, watched by the world's media. It is simply the legal process. There is only a finite time police can hold a person without the court's approval. But since they have confessed and the DNA test is positive, the court would have no problem to indict them right away, isn't it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhizBang Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 This makes no sense. Either they have all their ducks in a row, or they don't. So, apparantly, they don't. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldave1951 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 so when is the alleged crackdown going to happen onKao tao as the good general suggested i not sure if he said that as a officer or a politician if as a politician well ============================dont hold your breath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoristheBlade Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Where is Somchai "Jack Ruby " when you need him? the travel to Ban Nathon pier on Samui took three hours. I am very impressed the suspects didn't fall out the speed boat and "drown" on the way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Questioned throughout the night..... Should more likely read learnt their script throughout the night. Also changed their DNA during the night. Do you always come down on the side of the establishment in every single topic without fail ? just curious 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post englishoak Posted October 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2014 The police said they would officially indict the two suspects on October 8... So they havnt been charged yet.... yet the PM is out there along with god knows how many other officials speaking of congratulations .. guilt and all the rest proven no charges made... So they have 12 days more to work out how to link all this with credibility.... good luck with that because the next 12 days will see a heck of a lot more people looking into this now.. We've already had threats from police and from what im hearing some Thai sites and forums that could previously be posted on are now blocked to people outside Thailand wanting to post... pathetic really Expect to see more attempts at muzzling forums and talk if its not towing the party line or becoming embarrassing. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retsdon Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 The police said they would officially indict the two suspects on October 8... So they havnt been charged yet.... yet the PM is out there along with god knows how many other officials speaking of congratulations .. guilt and all the rest proven no charges made... So they have 12 days more to work out how to link all this with credibility.... good luck with that because the next 12 days will see a heck of a lot more people looking into this now.. We've already had threats from police and from what im hearing some Thai sites and forums that could previously be posted on are now blocked to people outside Thailand wanting to post... pathetic really Expect to see more attempts at muzzling forums and talk if its not towing the party line or becoming embarrassing. Good post as always - but it's 'toeing' the line, btw. I know, pathetic pedant stuff, but it's a little bugbear of mine. Genuine apologies for being so petty as to feel the the need to bring it up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iReason Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 "The police sought 12 days from the court to further detain the two suspects with reason that the 48 hours allowed by law to detain them has expired while they still needed more time for questioning." They "confessed", no? "The two suspects were seen to be very exhausted as they have been questioned throughout the night." "Police officers then led the two to a safe-house where they were intensively interrogated." From a previous report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuketandsee Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 "under protection by about 10 police" Protection from whom I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 "under protection by about 10 police" Protection from whom I wonder? It's quite common to protect murderers in Thailand from locals who would attack them without the police protection. Yes I still believe we have a DNA match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertty Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 (edited) Every move the police make on this episode just makes them look worse and worse. Come on lads the whole world has seen thru this mess you have made, maybe time to let the innocent go and get the real deal ? You know who killed these kids and where they are, why not stop thinking we are all as dumb as you and go get them ? All you care about is getting the money spenders back on the island and back to Thailand, well I'm pretty sure the longer you carry this joke on the less chance there will be for that to happen. Edited October 5, 2014 by metisdead Oversize font reset to normal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patsycat Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 (edited) Get someone to talk to Sean Mckanna. he seems to have run into hiding very quickly. Where is he? Why hasn't he been open (as he was on FB) since he was taken back home? You don't stay in hiding for three weeks. Those kids look like they are in never never land. Sort of strutted in front, like a best in breed cow show. Edited October 4, 2014 by Patsycat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabis Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Rights group arranges lawyers for Myanmar men A team of lawyers has been sent to help the two migrant Myanmar workers being charged with murdering two British tourists and raping one of them on Koh Tao, a prominent activist for the rights of migrant workers said yesterday. (The Nation - http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Rights-group-arranges-lawyers-for-Myanmar-men-30244775.html )Hope this isn't too late, and they get some sence into the whole thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuketandsee Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Rights group arranges lawyers for Myanmar menA team of lawyers has been sent to help the two migrant Myanmar workers being charged with murdering two British tourists and raping one of them on Koh Tao, a prominent activist for the rights of migrant workers said yesterday.(The Nation - http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Rights-group-arranges-lawyers-for-Myanmar-men-30244775.html ) Hope this isn't too late, and they get some sence into the whole thing. Some really good news 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunna Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 ABOUT TIME Stop the police framing these Burmese guys. Find evidence of the headman's sons who did it Just get their DNA and the case will be solved 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnThailandJohn Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 How sad, absolutely no evidence it was a Thai let along a Thai from a wealthy family but it doesn't stop people from refusing to believe the overwhelming evidence against this pair including their friend being a witness against them, people seeing them near the scene at the time, video footage, confessions, one of the victims phones found at their place and or course their DNA which was a match to the semen collected at the scene and which was share with Singapore. Unless these two not only die but have their bodies disappear as well as their family, their DNA will be around to be tested again with that on file in Singapore by whomever will want to test it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjules007 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 How sad, absolutely no evidence it was a Thai let along a Thai from a wealthy family but it doesn't stop people from refusing to believe the overwhelming evidence against this pair including their friend being a witness against them, people seeing them near the scene at the time, video footage, confessions, one of the victims phones found at their place and or course their DNA which was a match to the semen collected at the scene and which was share with Singapore. Unless these two not only die but have their bodies disappear as well as their family, their DNA will be around to be tested again with that on file in Singapore by whomever will want to test it. Everyone has the right to a fair trial, lets see what happens now that the Burmese suspects have somebody representing them shall we? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoolfrog Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 JohnThailandJohn I cant see what your problem is , are you being forced to read the 'pathetic' comments of the members here ? If you are convinced that this investigation is 100% then all will be fine , but if its not then maybe those you despise will have helped prevent an appalling miscarriage of justice. Im no conspiracy theorist but it is plain that all is not as claimed , I would call it deluded to just accept the official line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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