Popular Post webfact Posted October 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2014 Britain summons Thai envoy over tourist murder probeLondon, United Kingdom | AFP |LONDON: -- The British government on Monday summoned Thailand's top diplomatic representative in London to lay out its "real concern" about the investigation into the murder of two British tourists on a holiday island, officials said.Thai police last week charged two migrant workers from Myanmar with the murder of David Miller, 24, and the rape and murder of Hannah Witheridge, 23, after the tourists' battered bodies were found on Koh Tao on September 15.Junior foreign minister Hugo Swire summoned Thai charge d'affaires Nadhavathna Krishnamra and "stressed that there was a real concern in the UK about how the investigation has been handled by the Thai authorities," the Foreign Office said in a statement.Swire "said that it was crucial for the investigation to be conducted in a fair and transparent way," it said.He also noted "his concern about the way that the police had engaged with the media on the case, and reiterated that the UK police stood ready to assist with the investigation and subsequent legal process", it said.Swire emphasised the need for the British government and the victims' families to receive regular updates on the investigation's progress.Thai police said on Friday that the two suspects had confessed to the crime and their DNA matched with samples taken from Witheridge's body.The breakthrough followed intense scrutiny of Thai authorities, which had been accused -- in criticism led by the British media -- of bungling the investigation in the days after the crime.There have been reports that the suspects were tortured into confessing -- an allegation Thailand has strongly denied.The grisly murders delivered a fresh blow to Thailand's image as a tourist haven after months of political protests that ended in May's army coup. -- (c) Copyright AFP 2014-10-14 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kurnell Posted October 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2014 Finally the poms are showing some backbone 41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thai at Heart Posted October 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2014 Aha. Very clever. It keeps the local embassy out of it, and very publicly hauls the Thai govt over the coals. Very nice touch. 55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ukrules Posted October 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2014 I'm sure a very thorough investigation is ongoing in the UK. This issue won't go away easily. For this to happen I suspect there must be some preliminary results. 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MAJIC Posted October 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2014 This is obvious the communication needed to start opening the case to more UK Investigation,which is what is needed! but will this offer be refused,because of loss of FACE? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post noitom Posted October 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2014 Long overdue , Britain is now voicing concern over the handling, due process, diligence, corruption, and gangstering. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJIC Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Finally the poms are showing some backbone Show me where Backbone won and Thailand loss? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Great timing considering this mornings court appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NongKhaiKid Posted October 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2014 Finally the poms are showing some backbone Show me where Backbone won and Thailand loss? Part of the problem is that the Thais have dug themselves into a deep hole and suddenly reversing course is all but unthinkable as too much has been said and too much possibly covered up, ' arranged ' etc. The loss of face would be massive. Yesterday the National Police Chief again insisted the investigation had been transparent and that the era of fitting people up was over and wouldn't happen under his command. These and other strong words from the top HAVE To be seen through now. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phutoie2 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 "his concern about the way that the police had engaged with the media on the case" Fair comment I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JeremyBowskill Posted October 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2014 Finally the poms are showing some backbone Unlike our Aussie counterparts, we tend to think first and act accordingly. 28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post madmitch Posted October 14, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2014 I don't think the Thai powers will like this move by the UK. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post clockman Posted October 14, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2014 The Brits did not get far with Kirsty Jones murder in Chiang Mai. 14 years ago, still not solved.! 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thesetat2013 Posted October 14, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2014 Does anyone really think Thailand and the RTP really care about what Briton thinks and does? The ONLY thing that makes them concerned is lack of tourists and the money that follows. 47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jdinasia Posted October 14, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2014 I must be missing something. Regular reports to the family etc and a call for fair and transparent investigation /trial... This doesn't seem to be so strongly worded. Just a reiteration of what has already been said. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 "his concern about the way that the police had engaged with the media on the case" Fair comment I think. Absolutely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 The Brits did not get far with Kirsty Jones murder in Chiang Mai. 14 years ago, still not solved.! Not resolved anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I don't think the Thai powers will like this move by the UK. Tough. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BSJ Posted October 14, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2014 To little to late. That arse wipe Cameron should have been jumping up and down the first week. 32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Finally something, but as also mention "call me Dave" shoul have stepped in earlier, and they should have used the actual Foreign Minister to deliver the message to The Thai diplomat as opposed to a junior nor, just to give the idiots a further push. Hopefully, oh ugh this might be the beginning of some serious political pressure from The UK 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotsak Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Jonathan Head on BBC now about this story.. Should kick those SOBs where it hurts.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post howzat Posted October 14, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2014 Now the English get involved, poke their dirty fingers in everything but cant even solve their own in country problems. Don't expect anything worthwhile, just some dirty pigs getting a free holiday at my expense. Oh dear Mr Angry, Is it the wrong time of the month. Keep taking the tablets and climb back into your pit.!! 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post seahorse Posted October 14, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2014 that there was a real concern in the UK about how the investigation has been handled by the Thai authorities JohnThailandJohn, Beetlejuice, ClutchClark, Pattaya46, your boys just took a hell of a beating. You might be too thick to realise it, though. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borisloosebrain Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Finally the poms are showing some backboneUnlike our Aussie counterparts, we tend to think first and act accordingly. What do you expect from a bunch of convicts? Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Next please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLCrab Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) According to the next-to-the-last sentence of theGuaredian article on the same UK FCO's expression of real concerns: The accused are to appear in court in Koh Samui on Wednesday. Edited October 14, 2014 by JLCrab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted October 14, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2014 Thai police said on Friday that the two suspects had confessed to the crime and their DNA matched with samples taken from Witheridge's body. All they have to do is get this verified by an independent agency and all the speculation will cease, the other issues of human rights and peoples right to council is a longer issue that needs to also be addressed along with opening the court system up to full public and media scrutiny - access and follow up of cases as they are heard - time for Thailand to get with being open honest and transparent. It was the constant media release of conflicting statements from the authorities that caused this circus, the RTP need a central press/media department that has 100% control over statements that are released to the public, all proposed press statements must go through them for approval The NRC can add this to their reform agenda - it needs to happen 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aussieinthailand Posted October 14, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2014 Finally the poms are showing some backbone Unlike our Aussie counterparts, we tend to think first and act accordingly. It's going to take a little more that words from envoys to get this mess cleared up, Action from Thai's = MONEY, threaten to take away income and see what happens. JeremyBowskill, Really how so? Much as I enjoy Top Gear and Jeremy Clarkson, Seems he didn't do much thinking before acting accordingly huh? Not so long ago on Samui the cops tried one on, trying to blame a motor cycle death of a woman on her partner when clear CCTV footage showed a speeding motor bike smash into them killing the female passenger and the cop's tried fitting him up and wanted cash for his passport back and to make things go away, The Aussies came in hard and the BIB had to back down. Much like the Pom's and bodyline tactic in the cricket, that didn't work out to good for the Pom's huh? So what was that about thinking first and act accordingly? GO THE DON!!! So how's the humble pie today? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurnell Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Finally the poms are showing some backboneUnlike our Aussie counterparts, we tend to think first and act accordingly. What do you expect from a bunch of convicts? Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Next please. What? First time I've used that one in my life after hearing poms rattle on with it for 40 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Now the English get involved, poke their dirty fingers in everything but cant even solve their own in country problems. Don't expect anything worthwhile, just some dirty pigs getting a free holiday at my expense. Are you a bitter Jock? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JeremyBowskill Posted October 14, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Finally the poms are showing some backbone Unlike our Aussie counterparts, we tend to think first and act accordingly. It's going to take a little more that words from envoys to get this mess cleared up, Action from Thai's = MONEY, threaten to take away income and see what happens. JeremyBowskill, Really how so? Much as I enjoy Top Gear and Jeremy Clarkson, Seems he didn't do much thinking before acting accordingly huh? Not so long ago on Samui the cops tried one on, trying to blame a motor cycle death of a woman on her partner when clear CCTV footage showed a speeding motor bike smash into them killing the female passenger and the cop's tried fitting him up and wanted cash for his passport back and to make things go away, The Aussies came in hard and the BIB had to back down. Much like the Pom's and bodyline tactic in the cricket, that didn't work out to good for the Pom's huh? So what was that about thinking first and act accordingly? GO THE DON!!! So how's the humble pie today? Surely you would wait for the Thais to show their full hand first? after all they do have suspects in custody, or would you have yours and our queen Liz send in the gurkhas now? BTW, this isn't 1 rogue copper trying it on for a bit of tea money is it, this is an entire force plus potentially the army. On the subject of Clarko, I would say he did quite a bit of thinking on how best to wind everyone he meets up. Edited October 14, 2014 by JeremyBowskill 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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