Kularion Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 They have more in common than the author thinks. At present both are run by the unelected unaccountable.. Whatever faults the EU has, and there are many it is largely run by the elected European Parliament. The other main body is the Council of the European Union which comprises ministers from the elected governments of the member nations. There are I think 5 other bodies which are overseen by the parliament. Not every post is elected which is the same in most governments . It's hard enough getting people to vote for the parliament let alone anything else. Several people have claimed that Thais don't understand what the EU is and that's probably true but the same can be said for many Europeans. I have to admit my knowledge is rather limited but I do know enough to realise it isn't run by unelected bureaucrats. Just to make it clear - the real power in EU holds only Council of the European Union (which is not elected by people) and elected body which is European Parliament have no real power nor authority... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherOneAmerican Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I would rather be told what Thailand has ever done for anybody on this planet. Massage Parlours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kularion Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 er massage, no, muay Thai, no (Khmere), the bar fine, no, pad Thai (chinese) morlam, no that's lao, phew not easy is it, Thai language YES. Even the national anthem was composed by a German. The Thai anthem was composed a few days after the 1932 coup in the tune vaguely similar to the national anthem of Poland, "Poland Is Not Yet Lost", and was first broadcast in July 1932. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky54 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) I would rather be told what Thailand has ever done for anybody on this planet. Massage Parlours? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massage_parlor maybe not so good: The internal human traffic of Thai females consists mostly of 12-16 year-olds from the hill tribes of the North and Northeast of the country. Most of these internally trafficked girls are sent to closed brothels, which operate under prison-like conditions.[3] Thousands of women from rural Thailand, China, Laos, Burma and Cambodia are sold to brothels in Bangkok Actually there were massage parlors in the UK in the 19th cent, see 1894 massage scanals, probably had in the USA too. Edited October 14, 2014 by jacky54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Introduced the joy of Black label and Chivas to Thais for the past 40 years. Ask your parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kularion Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 EU are hypocrites, they promote so-called democracy (whatever that means), and then rely on China (which are communists) to produce their products, hardly qualified to mediate IMHO especially in Italy a country which is riddled with corruption. Thailand is of course only concerned with Thais, hence no reason to interfere with other countries's internal policies, and hence have no enemies, but EU on-the-other-hand do. Perhaps EU should learn a lesson from the Thai book, instead of trying to preach on something they clearly do not understand the reason behind the coup when your own back yard is not in order. There can be just one answer to this post: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPB65 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Seriously, can anyone highlight what is Thainess? Thainess is getting away with murder both figuratively and literally. It means never having to read the rules let alone live by them. It means never having to apologize for anything. It means anything goes as long as you don't criticize them. The list is endless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norvabc Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Most Thais probably don't even know where Europe is!! You may find that is sadly true I was asked by a Thai graduate if my son would be educated in the UK or Thailand. I asked if she knew where Moscow was she replied, where ? I said Moscow, head tilted, a glazed look appeared in Russia i said Oh yes i have heard of that country. I then asked if she knew who Hitler was Oh yes he had a big army i have heard of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdido Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I would rather be told what Thailand has ever done for anybody on this planet. Taught them that not all that glitters is gold- Things are not always as they appear- Woman can be actresses beyond Academy award level. South east Asia is poorer so it does what it does $$$ Greed can be all consuming- The west should not complain about its insignificant poverty *(by comparison) Xenophobic notions are real Words mean little Actions can be deceiving - The poor can be righteous Its cheaper than here Its getting more dangerous . We are biologically more rational Should have saved my money and never gone there Quit being a fool. Good and bad in every race. Juntas use propaganda methods They have taken a lot of drunkards and less desirables off their hands. ...WHO has taken......off WHOSE hands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norvabc Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 so what has Thailand ever done for us? er Pattaya ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky54 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 so what has Thailand ever done for us? er Pattaya ! Sad really if that's all we can come up with, the brothel by the sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Does he notice that without Europe Thailand wouldn't have cars, electric, TVs, mobile phones, antibiotics, newspapers? Because we developed all that things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trentham Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 What has Europe ever done for us? Well Europe and the West in general has given them the an endless supply of tourists, the motor car, locomotives, penicillin and countless other medical drugs and procedures, farming equipment, education, democratic system of government [ ] Western style of clothing, Western architecture for all their hotels and shopping malls, aeroplanes, telephones, television, radio -----I shan't go or I will bore you all. What have the Thais done for us, ----- provided us with a venue for our paedophiles, sex addicts and our dropouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 When married to a farang Thai can easily move to Europe and have no problem owning land or businesses. What have you done for Europe other than taking their money, should i go on ? What a bunch of hogwash !!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 May be Europe should recall all its products. Like Mercedes, BMW, thai law, building methods, tools ? Shut the f... up you weasel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lildragon Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 What has Europe ever done for us? Um...massive trade, building factories, creating jobs through commerce and tourism, charity for the poor and victims of natural disasters, sharing agricultural and medical science, building your satellites for Thai TV and cellphones, provided native teachers so private Thai schools can roll in profits...it is not a short list, and I only hit a few examples from hundreds. And let's not forget liberating Thais from their WWII Japanese "guests".... But but but, you missed the point, what have they ever done for us? It would never happen but it would interesting to see what would happen if all foreign investment, companies, products etc were pulled out of Thailand. I'm sure it would end up looking like North Korea, and they seem to do so well being self sufficient Nationalistic nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 The EU has pumped tons of money into Thailand for research, development, educational and other social programs. Thailand should wind its neck in and give it a rest. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chotthee Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 May be Europe should recall all its products. Like Mercedes, BMW, thai law, building methods, tools ? Shut the f... up you weasel. Good, most Thai people prefers Japanese anyway. Car, food, porn, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabianfred Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 .....got rid of the occupying Japanese Imerial forces who were colonising you during WW2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDave Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Most Thais probably don't even know where Europe is!! Some Thais I spoke too had never heard of Hitler or Muhammad Ali. They had however heard of Bruce Lee. They all know where the ATM is though! Edited October 14, 2014 by MRDave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubbaJohnny Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Thailand didn't nuke anyone USA Enslave ans starve a quarter of the planet India,Africa,Tasman genocide the Irish UK Bomb many world Arabs Fence Arabs behind a wall Jews Lock up unwanted leaders Burma Gove General sack pm Oz Sheepworry NZ Let us not even consider the real Euro horrors of real nazis and their Vichy quisling helpers Those who dont care for the dictatorship are fee to leave at present Edited October 14, 2014 by RubbaJohnny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 LOL!! I was about to post this.. Refer to Life of Brian, change Romans to Europe. Monty Python's boys always hit the nail on the head. Listening to that sketch, it sounds as if the Romans could do a fine job in Thailand even at this late hour so to speak. Aqueducts - for water distribution and retention.Not available in your area. Sanitation - garbage removal and disposal. Roads - lasted hundreds of years. Education - classical Irrigation - A good start has been made here. Medicine - Doing OK at the moment with Ebola cure etc Public Baths - Maybe the soapy type are more popular Public Order - Martial law helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Given its vast resources and decades of stability, Thailand has not produced all that many world citizens. Was there a Thai head of the World Bank or IMF ? Can anyone name any Thai world citizens ? You can say what you want Taksin, but one thing is sure, He IS a world citizen. A definition of World citizen is available here. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=World%20Citizen Thaksin Shinawatra does not seem to meet the requirements. Thaksin is a Nomad of the World. A very wealthy, rather sad little man, free to move from some countries to some other countries but who is unable, or better still, unwilling to return to the country of his birth due to cowardice and fear of prosecution and in some minds, persecution.. Ask the average person on the street in any country in the world "Who is Thaksin Shinawatra"? and you will receive a blank stare in 99% of cases. BTW Taksin the Great was the only King of the Thonburi Kingdom and was of Thai - Chinese heritage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ableguy Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I would rather be told what Thailand has ever done for anybody on this planet. Given sex to a lot of ugly people who could never get it any where else on the planet, for a price of course. But the truth is here in LOS money can buy you anything, not so in most European countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky54 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 But the truth is here in LOS money can buy you anything, not so in most European countries. Unfortunately, even freedom from prosecution for murder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Im sorry I fell asleep by the second paragra......zzz I didn't make it that far but bottom line is Europe and the US would prefer to deal with a corrupt government when it comes to less advanced countries. They are pro-democracy only when the leader it creates is somebody they can pull strings with. From the OP, near the end. The EU's position: It essentially called on the Thai military to restore, "as a matter of urgency, the legitimate democratic process and the constitution, through credible and inclusive elections". I think the credible is going to take a while. Just my opinion. It is not as some seem to think like throwing light switch. It takes time some times even go back a step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Does he notice that without Europe Thailand wouldn't have cars, electric, TVs, mobile phones, antibiotics, newspapers? Because we developed all that things. I think you copied a lot of them from the states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 And, of course, there're all those Europeans that boost the tourist industry, despite the best efforts of a minority of undesirables to derail their support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 so what has Thailand ever done for us? erPattaya ! Sad really if that's all we can come up with, the brothel by the sea. Don't blame Europe for Pattaya. It has been a playground since the Vietnam war, used by the US forces for R&R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Given its vast resources and decades of stability, Thailand has not produced all that many world citizens. Was there a Thai head of the World Bank or IMF ? Can anyone name any Thai world citizens ? You can say what you want Taksin, but one thing is sure, He IS a world citizen. How many dodgy passports do you have to acquire to qualify? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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