Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted November 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2014 I walked along part of it couple of days ago. There is a huge hole opposite the police station where the sand fill has washed away and the pavers have collapsed into it. All that has been done is to put some decrepit barriers around it. The electricity control box is still working, but only prevented from falling in by the wires. That's not the only collapse either. Then there are the sandbags placed along the wall to stop the rainwater washing away the beach, and they are falling apart, leaving sand all over. After the heavy rain on Friday, the flood was over the walkway, and still at kerb height an hour later, so i guess all those pumps along the walkway are insufficient, as well as being ugly. So, it appears to have been designed by incompetents, and built by people that had no idea of how to build a walkway by the sea. It is ugly with the ( permanent ) sandbags, broken, dangerous with loose pavers and holes all over, and a complete disgrace. It also appears that they either blocked the huge drains that run under Beach Road, or didn't put sufficient side drains in to handle the rain water. To think that someone in city Hall thought this version was a good idea is laughable and I doubt any of the people on here saying it was so great will be coming on here to dispute my assessment. However, for those that like to drive their huge SUVs down Beach road, you can indeed drive faster, making it even more dangerous for those of us that want to cross the road. And they thought it would attract rich hiso tourists . WE TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!!!!!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchClark Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Are you certain it was not designed to look this way? It sounds exactly like every other project in Thailand--it might very well be by design. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD13 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Why have a "go" at SUV owners.......???? What has that got to do with the condition of the Promenade ........???? just asking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slygeeza Posted November 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2014 Why have a "go" at SUV owners.......???? What has that got to do with the condition of the Promenade ........???? just asking the promenade and many trees were demolished to make way for an extra lane on the road, so its sort of relevant 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post morrobay Posted November 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Why have a "go" at SUV owners.......???? What has that got to do with the condition of the Promenade ........???? just asking Because most of them are reckless jerks - Both Thai and foreigner. And the extra lane just gives them more freedom to continue being just that, reckless jerks. May as well throw in all the minivan drivers too. The promenade is only one year old and already a shambles. Also the "on ramps" just invite the local lowlifes to drive motorbikes on the promenade.. The only benefit is for the big touring companies (who have taken over control of Pattaya City ) with the extra lane that is included in overall project. Edited November 9, 2014 by morrobay 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fforest1 Posted November 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) The new Promenade blows it has from day one...The old Promenade was like a park.. They traded a park for a parking lot like walkway...... Edited November 9, 2014 by fforest1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post morrobay Posted November 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2014 Are you certain it was not designed to look this way? It sounds exactly like every other project in Thailand--it might very well be by design. Thats the problem, it was deigned to look that way. As the OP said : designed by incompetents and constructed by incompetents. Thats why its a disaster. For example they did not even install re-enforcing iron rods in the new slapped on seawall. And the North to South long - shore current has not even started yet. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemel Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Why have a "go" at SUV owners.......???? What has that got to do with the condition of the Promenade ........???? just asking Because most of them are reckless jerks - Both Thai and foreigner. And the extra lane just gives them more freedom to continue being just that, reckless jerks. May as well throw in all the minivan drivers too. The promenade is only one year old and already a shambles. Also the "on ramps" just invite the local lowlifes to drive motorbikes on the promenade.. The only benefit is for the big touring companies (who have taken over control of Pattaya City ) with the extra lane that is included in overall project. Morrobay, maybe if you poor walkers/jerks who don/t have a 'pot to piss in' got out of the way, it would be easier for us to drive down.............see, how strange that is, generalising about people/things that are not relevant, seem so wrong to me but then again, maybe you fit my description! Edited November 9, 2014 by lemel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robblok Posted November 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Why have a "go" at SUV owners.......???? What has that got to do with the condition of the Promenade ........???? just asking Because most of them are reckless jerks - Both Thai and foreigner. And the extra lane just gives them more freedom to continue being just that, reckless jerks. May as well throw in all the minivan drivers too. The promenade is only one year old and already a shambles. Also the "on ramps" just invite the local lowlifes to drive motorbikes on the promenade.. The only benefit is for the big touring companies (who have taken over control of Pattaya City ) with the extra lane that is included in overall project. Morrobay, maybe if you poor walkers/jerks who don/t have a 'pot to piss in' got out of the way, it would be easier for us to drive down.............see, how strange that is, generalising about people/things that are not relevant, seem so wrong to me but then again, maybe you fit my description! I agree those pesky pedestrians should know their place.. way at the bottom they don't even own a motorbike. Edited November 9, 2014 by robblok 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya28 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Taking into account the "track record" of this project, I wonder what the traffic "1-Way System" in Jomtien starting 12th will be like. The mind boggles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MYKTHEMIN Posted November 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2014 Those who have lived here a while will know that any form of construction here is pretty poor, and roads and footpaths are the worst, they do not have a clue how to do it properly, compaction of fill is unheard of and correct fill is never used. and most of the cash goes in brown envelopes to corrupt officials. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD13 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Why have a "go" at SUV owners.......???? What has that got to do with the condition of the Promenade ........???? just asking Because most of them are reckless jerks - Both Thai and foreigner. And the extra lane just gives them more freedom to continue being just that, reckless jerks. May as well throw in all the minivan drivers too. The promenade is only one year old and already a shambles. Also the "on ramps" just invite the local lowlifes to drive motorbikes on the promenade.. The only benefit is for the big touring companies (who have taken over control of Pattaya City ) with the extra lane that is included in overall project. OK .... So why not ask the council to designate the "extra" lane for pedestrians.....and leave the dangerous "Prom" for SUV drivers.....most of whom have 4WD and can deal with uneven ground I'll think about changing my "Thumb-print" to.........."Reckless DD13"..............even though I try to be a careful driver NB. Don't forget that SUV owners sit considerably higher than car drivers, which gives us a better chance of seeing what is ahead of us, and a chance to avoid hitting pedestrians 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD13 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Those who have lived here a while will know that any form of construction here is pretty poor, and roads and footpaths are the worst, they do not have a clue how to do it properly, compaction of fill is unheard of and correct fill is never used. and most of the cash goes in brown envelopes to corrupt officials. Let's hope that now "brown envelopes" are said to be history..........all manner of things will improve........for the betterment of all people.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitawatWatawit Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Are you certain it was not designed to look this way? It sounds exactly like every other project in Thailand--it might very well be by design. Thats the problem, it was deigned to look that way. As the OP said : designed by incompetents and constructed by incompetents. Thats why its a disaster. For example they did not even install re-enforcing iron rods in the new slapped on seawall. And the North to South long - shore current has not even started yet. " ... designed by incompetents and constructed by incompetents. Thats why its a disaster." No. It's designed by the inscrutable and constructed by the inscrutable. That's why it's a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrobay Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) The issue here regarding the extra lane, as stated in the OP, is that it is more difficult to cross Beach rd.for pedestrians with the increased traffic (whether they own a vehicle or not) The solution , as I have stated ad nauseam, are pedestrian overpasses. My above post does not apply to safe drivers. Edited November 10, 2014 by morrobay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggie888888 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 The extra Lane is for water pumps. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 The Monger God must intervene! If the mongers spend less on girls but more on cars or bikes they would not have to walk. City hall knows this and has decided that its their own choice to be a lowly pedestrian and does not want to pay for their comfort. So the cheap pedestrian stays an endangered species but by its own choice. Why help those that don't even help themselves.. besides this way there is more money to line their pockets and pay for their mia nois. Why pay for a farang his pleasure So I agree only the Monger God can help 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 The issue here regarding the extra lane, as stated in the OP, is that it is more difficult to cross Beach rd.for pedestrians with the increased traffic (whether they own a vehicle or not) The solution , as I have stated ad nauseam, are pedestrian overpasses. My above post does not apply to safe drivers. Pedestrian overpasses are a waste of money. Most people wont use them because they are never convenient. You then have a few almost never used safe passes while most of the pedestrians still not use them causing traffic to go slower. My above post does not apply to the minority of safety minded pedestrians. On a serious note.. I really see people crossing roads often only a 100 meters from a pedestrian bridge so what is the point then ?. Maybe allow the police to fine pedestrians that cross the road in a 500 meter radius of an pedestrian bridge. Would be a nice new hunting ground for police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Those who have lived here a while will know that any form of construction here is pretty poor, and roads and footpaths are the worst, they do not have a clue how to do it properly, compaction of fill is unheard of and correct fill is never used. and most of the cash goes in brown envelopes to corrupt officials. Let's hope that now "brown envelopes" are said to be history..........all manner of things will improve........for the betterment of all people.... Oh to have your optomism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYKTHEMIN Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Those who have lived here a while will know that any form of construction here is pretty poor, and roads and footpaths are the worst, they do not have a clue how to do it properly, compaction of fill is unheard of and correct fill is never used. and most of the cash goes in brown envelopes to corrupt officials. Let's hope that now "brown envelopes" are said to be history..........all manner of things will improve........for the betterment of all people.... In your dreams brown envelopes are alive and well just being given to a new set of corrupt officials, nothing will ever change . it is too ingrained in the thai way of life.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrobay Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) The issue here regarding the extra lane, as stated in the OP, is that it is more difficult to cross Beach rd.for pedestrians with the increased traffic (whether they own a vehicle or not) The solution , as I have stated ad nauseam, are pedestrian overpasses. My above post does not apply to safe drivers. Pedestrian overpasses are a waste of money. Most people wont use them because they are never convenient. You then have a few almost never used safe passes while most of the pedestrians still not use them causing traffic to go slower. My above post does not apply to the minority of safety minded pedestrians. On a serious note.. I really see people crossing roads often only a 100 meters from a pedestrian bridge so what is the point then ?. Maybe allow the police to fine pedestrians that cross the road in a 500 meter radius of an pedestrian bridge. Would be a nice new hunting ground for police. Waste of money ? Its the option to safe crossing in a country where the locals drive through red lights even when pedestrians are in crossing Now those traffic lights are the waste of money. So pedestrian overpasses are not convenient? Obviously some people around here dont do much walkiing And overpasses make traffic go slower ?? If I wanted to spend money on cars I would have stayed in California. But in this town there are better things to do than driving around in circles all day * And maybe its time to get back on topic. Edited November 10, 2014 by morrobay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circusman Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Those who have lived here a while will know that any form of construction here is pretty poor, and roads and footpaths are the worst, they do not have a clue how to do it properly, compaction of fill is unheard of and correct fill is never used. and most of the cash goes in brown envelopes to corrupt officials. Have you seen any cash go into officials hands under the table ? If not, your just parroting what others allege. They also have not witnessed any changing of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 The issue here regarding the extra lane, as stated in the OP, is that it is more difficult to cross Beach rd.for pedestrians with the increased traffic (whether they own a vehicle or not) The solution , as I have stated ad nauseam, are pedestrian overpasses. My above post does not apply to safe drivers. Pedestrian overpasses are a waste of money. Most people wont use them because they are never convenient. You then have a few almost never used safe passes while most of the pedestrians still not use them causing traffic to go slower. My above post does not apply to the minority of safety minded pedestrians. On a serious note.. I really see people crossing roads often only a 100 meters from a pedestrian bridge so what is the point then ?. Maybe allow the police to fine pedestrians that cross the road in a 500 meter radius of an pedestrian bridge. Would be a nice new hunting ground for police. Waste of money ? Its the option to safe crossing in a country where the locals drive through red lights even when pedestrians are in crossing Now those traffic lights are the waste of money. So pedestrian overpasses are not convenient? Obviously some people around here dont do much walkiing And overpasses make traffic go slower ?? If I wanted to spend money on cars I would have stayed in California. But in this town there are better things to do than driving around in circles all day * And maybe its time to get back on topic. Yes they are a waste of money.. sorry that I don't agree with you. Just look near overpasses and see that people often dont even walk 100 meter to go to an overpass, only a few people will use it the rest will still use the roads to pass. So its a waste of money, personally I would use an overpass but from experience most don't. I am fine with overpasses if they then let the police hunt for people crossing the road near overpasses without using the overpass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Flint Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Those who have lived here a while will know that any form of construction here is pretty poor, and roads and footpaths are the worst, they do not have a clue how to do it properly, compaction of fill is unheard of and correct fill is never used. and most of the cash goes in brown envelopes to corrupt officials. Let's hope that now "brown envelopes" are said to be history..........all manner of things will improve........for the betterment of all people.... In your dreams Sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneday Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 One of the biggest problems Thailand has with "Projects" they build or at least the projects I've seen in Pattaya, is a complete lack of scheduled maintenance. They actually can build some really nice looking features from time to time, but they have zero plans in place to do periodic maintenance. I guess they think they can build it to last forever and never have to revisit it. In addition, they do seem to have a lack of qualified engineers in the city or maybe some departments think their project is so easy it does not need to be run by the engineers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dublin Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) As many of you have said its called corruption, if it was built to last 10 years that is 10 years of corruption lost,, as in this case and many roads are built to last 1 or 2 years then repair , government pay for the repairs say 10 million after the cut there is only 1 to 2 million left for the repairs, this is done over and over and over nice little earner for someone. I think they know exactly what they are doing it just seems to some of you they don't !!!!!!! Edited November 10, 2014 by Dublin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprq Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Another reason for me to continue avoiding Pattaya as I have since 1993. It was nice in the early 80s, though, a low-rise town for low-income low-lifes, loved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goanna Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Surely the overpasses could be leased to the beggars. I don't know how much they pay in bangkok, but I would assume a tollway type of system with women/ babies, cripples etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) Another reason for me to continue avoiding Pattaya as I have since 1993. It was nice in the early 80s, though, a low-rise town for low-income low-lifes, loved it. You haven't been since 1993 so you obviously have NO IDEA what you're talking about. It has now become the hub of hiso Jewish weddings! At the Hilton! That's a highrise. Edited November 10, 2014 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukguyinthai Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Why have a "go" at SUV owners.......???? What has that got to do with the condition of the Promenade ........???? just asking Because most of them are reckless jerks - Both Thai and foreigner. And the extra lane just gives them more freedom to continue being just that, reckless jerks. May as well throw in all the minivan drivers too. The promenade is only one year old and already a shambles. Also the "on ramps" just invite the local lowlifes to drive motorbikes on the promenade.. The only benefit is for the big touring companies (who have taken over control of Pattaya City ) with the extra lane that is included in overall project. Also the "on ramps" just invite the local lowlifes to drive motorbikes on the promenade. I am one of those lowlifes. Can I make it up to you ??? I know I promise not to buy a SUV, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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