micmichd Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 You want a psychiatric excuse for violence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1Str8 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 He just wanted to take his shoes off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 (edited) They should also immediately suspend the other officers on the scene for witnessing an assult and failing to arrest the officer. This is obviously an accepted way of dealing with people from the lack of action by the other officers. Must have been trained from the same manual as those involved in the Koh Tao arrests. Torture never happens in the Thai justice system? Really. Well General, you have a video, tell the world by your actions whether this is acceptable. Yeah and perhaps the police who beat 7 shades out of Rodney King, or the British police who shot the Brazilian guy for no reason were on the Koh Tao case too......I am far from a Thai apologist as anyone who has seen some of my other posts can confirm, but this does go on everywhere. If it were my car he crashed into or if my child was on the street, I would wanna boot the pr1ck in the face too (no excuse for a copper though). Your son might be indeed be on the street handcuffed and being kicked in the head by this filth who has just planted drugs on him. Alternatively he and his buddies might be raping your daughter at the local cop shop. Those who approve of this type of police morality should embrace it wholeheartedly for themselves and their families too, not just for the ordinary Thais who are usually on the receiving end. I can't remember the Red Bull brat getting kicked unconscious by the cops after killing one of them while drunk and high as a kite and then trying to fit his own driver up for the crime. Nothing but deeply respectful wais from the cops with outsretched hands then. A privilege for our colleague to be killed by someone from such a distinguished family Sir kraphom. Edited November 15, 2014 by Dogmatix 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micmichd Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Everyday violence does not make violence legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesarillion Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Looks like expert kick to me. Hope the guy comes to his better senses and soon. Long live the King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 In Koh Tao perhaps he would have been thrown into the sea on Murder Beach after being kicked unconscious. Drowned while resisting arrest. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I am really of two minds regarding this incident. On one hand, the cop is acting absolutely stupidly, cowardly and criminally (in no particular order). The other hand, knowing Thailand's justice system, the kick in the face could be the only real punishment this drunk scum gets... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddinChonburi Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Watch some of the USA video's of how cops use tazzers. Watch these worthless ........ do the flip flop when they resist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freed1948 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Should have been charged with assault and suspended without pay. The victim is defenceless, handcuffed and on the ground. The officer is scum and there is no justified excuse for his actions. Just imagine the low life scum they are going to get with conscription to the BIB if this was the UK he would have been beaten with a baton pepper sprayed or poss tazered. All you do Gooders need to get real. He was caught redhanded this is not 2 goats in Koh Tao. Bang to rights. He deserved what he got. Personally I would have had a few of his teeth out as well. I think he got of lightly. Quite so, but he would have been tasered before the handcuffs were put on. He would not have been kicked in the head while defenceless. The cop was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pui Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 (edited) Should have been charged with assault and suspended without pay. The victim is defenceless, handcuffed and on the ground. The officer is scum and there is no justified excuse for his actions. Just imagine the low life scum they are going to get with conscription to the BIB if this was the UK he would have been beaten with a baton pepper sprayed or poss tazered. All you do Gooders need to get real. He was caught redhanded this is not 2 goats in Koh Tao. Bang to rights. He deserved what he got. Personally I would have had a few of his teeth out as well. I think he got of lightly. Totally agree, he's probably got no license, no MOT no insurance. Drives drunk and hits other cars, not stopping at the scene. Thats several year prison anywhere. Here he gets a bit of a kicking, seems appropriate to me. Drink driving is endemic here. Hundreds of innocent lives lost every year. The ends justify the means. If it serves as a deterrent to savages then its fine with me. I hope he got a further beating later. Edited November 15, 2014 by Pui Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Violent and cowardly behaviour by Thai "men" are part of life here. Included in Thainess!! But the real scary part is, that we have posters here defending the behaviour of those Thai heroes!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyBowskill Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 (edited) They should also immediately suspend the other officers on the scene for witnessing an assult and failing to arrest the officer. This is obviously an accepted way of dealing with people from the lack of action by the other officers. Must have been trained from the same manual as those involved in the Koh Tao arrests. Torture never happens in the Thai justice system? Really. Well General, you have a video, tell the world by your actions whether this is acceptable. Yeah and perhaps the police who beat 7 shades out of Rodney King, or the British police who shot the Brazilian guy for no reason were on the Koh Tao case too......I am far from a Thai apologist as anyone who has seen some of my other posts can confirm, but this does go on everywhere. If it were my car he crashed into or if my child was on the street, I would wanna boot the pr1ck in the face too (no excuse for a copper though). Your son might be indeed be on the street handcuffed and being kicked in the head by this filth who has just planted drugs on him. Alternatively he and his buddies might be raping your daughter at the local cop shop.Those who approve of this type of police morality should embrace it wholeheartedly for themselves and their families too, not just for the ordinary Thais who are usually on the receiving end. I can't remember the Red Bull brat getting kicked unconscious by the cops after killing one of them while drunk and high as a kite and then trying to fit his own driver up for the crime. Nothing but deeply respectful wais from the cops with outsretched hands then. A privilege for our colleague to be killed by someone from such a distinguished family Sir kraphom. You did ready the very last things I said about "(no excuse for a copper though)"????? Guess not!!! what I would want to do to him and what a copper should do to him are 2 separate things!!! Do love it when people take part of what you say, and then make up a story in which your child is raped in a scenario. Bored by any chance? Edited November 15, 2014 by JeremyBowskill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenniferSG Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Adrenaline kicks in after a vehicle pursuit and altercation. Too bad the drunk chose to endanger all those lives when he chose to drive drunk and resist arrest. What the drunk did doesn't matter! Absolutely no excuse for a policeman kicking a handcuffed man in the face. In most civilized countries the cop would be suspended without pay pending an investigation and probable criminal assault charges. But here I imagine he will be back on active duty in a month or so. Very sad. I agree it's DISGUSTING behavior by a cop. However, as someone who works in law enforcement in the U.S. I have to tell you that in the U.S. law enforcement officers kill people frequently and are frequently found to be not at fault (after a paid vacation during investigation) then sue for damages and to get their jobs back if they were dismissed. Look up the killing of Kelly Thomas. The only thing that brings down the death toll in the U.S. is mandated body cameras for cops (see Rialto, CA) which resulted in a massive drop in use of force incidents as well as an almost equal drop in complaints regarding police. The U.S. has a terrible problem with abuse by cop, and most jurys find - no matter how horrible the situation - in favor of the cop because we've all been raised to believe tha the are the good guys, wouldn't jeopardize their pensions to behave badly, etc. Seriously, check out the Kelly Thomas killing if you can stand to watch the video. It's unreal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastcanje Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 And if the guy had killed a young child and her mother with his drink driving antics - would you all still be posting the same "OMG I can't belive the policeman did that" ? Or would you be saying he deserved it? The only thing wrong there is that he should have been given that kick whilst he was resisting arrest, then it would have been absolutley fine. Either way a good shoeing was called for one way or another, the courts wouldn't stop him doing it again. Maybe he'll remember that kick next time he thinks about getting behind the wheel and driving like a nutter. What total B.S.! So this cop was justified in brutalizing someone who was unable to defend himself? Big, brave hero! I guess if you happened to drink too much one night, and a cop saw you staggering home, he would be justified in beating your axx so that you would remember to stay sober in future? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 No way the officer should have done that. It is cowardly and disgusting IMHO. Its called anger. We've all been there Not to the point of kicking someone unconcious I haven't. Or were you speculating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Some kicks is OK, if it can make the wrong doer confess. That's what they told you in school yes? 3rd World, always will be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Should have been charged with assault and suspended without pay. The victim is defenceless, handcuffed and on the ground. The officer is scum and there is no justified excuse for his actions. Just imagine the low life scum they are going to get with conscription to the BIB if this was the UK he would have been beaten with a baton pepper sprayed or poss tazered. All you do Gooders need to get real. He was caught redhanded this is not 2 goats in Koh Tao. Bang to rights. He deserved what he got. Personally I would have had a few of his teeth out as well. I think he got of lightly. Totally agree, he's probably got no license, no MOT no insurance. Drives drunk and hits other cars, not stopping at the scene. Thats several year prison anywhere. Here he gets a bit of a kicking, seems appropriate to me. Drink driving is endemic here. Hundreds of innocent lives lost every year. The ends justify the means. If it serves as a deterrent to savages then its fine with me. I hope he got a further beating later. Never mind what kind of a person this guy was or how objectionable. The police have a job description to adhere to. Did you not have one at one time ?? did you go off your head and disregard it ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrtoad Posted November 15, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2014 Kicking a handcuffed, seated man hardly smacks of valour does it. @Mrtoad I totally agree with you. His behaviour was not an excuse because in his position he was defenceless. The cops could make an example here, the evidence is clear cut. my guess is that there'll be a delay and under the carpet it'll go in due course I don't recall anyone suggesting valour. Suggest readers take a moment to learn something new: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_Pursuit_Syndrome In other words, this officer could have been suffering from a medical condition. I suggest that you look at credible sources when deciding to start an argument, or defend your previously contemptuous comment. The fact that this "syndrome" is not recognized in either DSM IV , DSM V or ICD 10 makes your comment irrelevant and foolish. I am not sure if you have a Law Enforcement background , but even so, actions such as this are not professional, ethical or legal. Apprehension and restraint of persons is actually a skill that requires training, and one would expect any law enforcement officer to have some grasp of this, as well as insight into ones own behaviour. I am not condoning the behavior of the perp 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 And if the guy had killed a young child and her mother with his drink driving antics - would you all still be posting the same "OMG I can't belive the policeman did that" ? Or would you be saying he deserved it? The only thing wrong there is that he should have been given that kick whilst he was resisting arrest, then it would have been absolutley fine. Either way a good shoeing was called for one way or another, the courts wouldn't stop him doing it again. Maybe he'll remember that kick next time he thinks about getting behind the wheel and driving like a nutter. What total B.S.! So this cop was justified in brutalizing someone who was unable to defend himself? Big, brave hero! I guess if you happened to drink too much one night, and a cop saw you staggering home, he would be justified in beating your axx so that you would remember to stay sober in future? I agree totally. Joking only--there are not enough police in Pattaya to do to all in one evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastcanje Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Adrenaline kicks in after a vehicle pursuit and altercation. Too bad the drunk chose to endanger all those lives when he chose to drive drunk and resist arrest. What the drunk did doesn't matter! Absolutely no excuse for a policeman kicking a handcuffed man in the face. In most civilized countries the cop would be suspended without pay pending an investigation and probable criminal assault charges. But here I imagine he will be back on active duty in a month or so. Very sad. I agree it's DISGUSTING behavior by a cop. However, as someone who works in law enforcement in the U.S. I have to tell you that in the U.S. law enforcement officers kill people frequently and are frequently found to be not at fault (after a paid vacation during investigation) then sue for damages and to get their jobs back if they were dismissed. Look up the killing of Kelly Thomas. The only thing that brings down the death toll in the U.S. is mandated body cameras for cops (see Rialto, CA) which resulted in a massive drop in use of force incidents as well as an almost equal drop in complaints regarding police. The U.S. has a terrible problem with abuse by cop, and most jurys find - no matter how horrible the situation - in favor of the cop because we've all been raised to believe tha the are the good guys, wouldn't jeopardize their pensions to behave badly, etc. Seriously, check out the Kelly Thomas killing if you can stand to watch the video. It's unreal. I agree with what you say, and there are many, many instances where police officers victimized citizens, besides physically hurting them. Anyone who thinks that cops are justified in assaulting citizens is burying his head in the sand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenniferSG Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 And if the guy had killed a young child and her mother with his drink driving antics - would you all still be posting the same "OMG I can't belive the policeman did that" ? Or would you be saying he deserved it? The only thing wrong there is that he should have been given that kick whilst he was resisting arrest, then it would have been absolutley fine. Either way a good shoeing was called for one way or another, the courts wouldn't stop him doing it again. Maybe he'll remember that kick next time he thinks about getting behind the wheel and driving like a nutter. Those who want cops to be judge, jury and executioner should get in a time machine and go join the SS. Cops are to detain suspects. Prosecutors bring charges. Juries (and sometimes judges) determine guilt and sentence/punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben2203 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Adrenaline kicks in after a vehicle pursuit and altercation. Too bad the drunk chose to endanger all those lives when he chose to drive drunk and resist arrest. What the drunk did doesn't matter! Absolutely no excuse for a policeman kicking a handcuffed man in the face. In most civilized countries the cop would be suspended without pay pending an investigation and probable criminal assault charges. But here I imagine he will be back on active duty in a month or so. Very sad. This is how Thai police work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwhitewarrior Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 (edited) And if the guy had killed a young child and her mother with his drink driving antics - would you all still be posting the same "OMG I can't belive the policeman did that" ? Or would you be saying he deserved it? The only thing wrong there is that he should have been given that kick whilst he was resisting arrest, then it would have been absolutley fine. Either way a good shoeing was called for one way or another, the courts wouldn't stop him doing it again. Maybe he'll remember that kick next time he thinks about getting behind the wheel and driving like a nutter. Those who want cops to be judge, jury and executioner should get in a time machine and go join the SS. Cops are to detain suspects. Prosecutors bring charges. Juries (and sometimes judges) determine guilt and sentence/punishment. Have you looked at the way the courts hand out sentencing these days? Where when someone robs you and you defend your property for instance and the robber gets injured he can then sue you? Food for thought? Edited November 15, 2014 by bigwhitewarrior 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spareword Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Kicking a handcuffed perp in the face is unjustifiable but it doesn't warrant Thai-bashing. Police officers pull this crap all over the world - the States possibly being the main culprit.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jools Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Amazing that anyone would be surprised by this kind of behavior from Thai cops. Thailand's prisons tell you all you need to know about the "justice" system in this country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmann Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Adrenaline kicks in after a vehicle pursuit and altercation. Too bad the drunk chose to endanger all those lives when he chose to drive drunk and resist arrest. What the drunk did doesn't matter! Absolutely no excuse for a policeman kicking a handcuffed man in the face. In most civilized countries the cop would be suspended without pay pending an investigation and probable criminal assault charges. But here I imagine he will be back on active duty in a month or so. Very sad. Lucky he was not in the USA chances he may have been shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Equalizer Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 And if the guy had killed a young child and her mother with his drink driving antics - would you all still be posting the same "OMG I can't belive the policeman did that" ? Or would you be saying he deserved it? The only thing wrong there is that he should have been given that kick whilst he was resisting arrest, then it would have been absolutley fine. Either way a good shoeing was called for one way or another, the courts wouldn't stop him doing it again. Maybe he'll remember that kick next time he thinks about getting behind the wheel and driving like a nutter. And if the guy had killed a young child and her mother with his drink driving antics - would you all still be posting the same. And if my mum had balls she would be my dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Talionis Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 (edited) Sadly it happens in a lot of places, especially in the land of the free and the home of the brave. This cop was suspended from the police force and convicted of felony assault. Slightly different consequences I'd say. The police here have a sense of impunity. Do police actually get fired over here? I'm sure they do but I can't remember hearing of any such case. Edited November 15, 2014 by Lex Talionis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnmeldrum Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 What ever a person has done a policeman has no right to kick a man in the face while his hands are handcuffed behind his back . It was good to see the other policeman push him away and stop him , in any other country this policeman would be jailed . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 ....he might have been mouthing off.... ...resisting arrest did not help his cause I am sure.... ...maybe a taser would have helped before cuffing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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