webfact Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 US defence secretary Chuck Hagel resignsWASHINGTON: -- Chuck Hagel has resigned as US defence secretary after less than two years in the top post.President Barack Obama confirmed his resignation and paid tribute to his "class and integrity".Mr Hagel, 68, a Vietnam war veteran and former Republican senator, said it had been his life's "greatest privilege".Last month, it was reported that he was sharply critical of the US strategy against Islamic State and in relation to the Syria regime.He will stay on as secretary until his successor is confirmed.An unnamed official told the Associated Press news agency that Mr Hagel and Mr Obama both "determined that it was time for new leadership in the Pentagon" and had been discussing the move for weeks.Mr Obama said Mr Hagel had come to him to discuss the "appropriate time to complete his service".Full story: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30182410-- BBC 2014-11-25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ggt Posted November 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) When Chuck Hagel and the Leader of the Military went to the press and TV to expose the ISIS threat while Obama was vacationing...I predicted that Hagel's days would be numbered...so also we might see a new leader named for the Military by Obama... Obama had refused to take seriously the ISIS threat...and Hagel exposing this threat to the public...forced Obama's hand... The Commander and Chief of the US Armed Forces...which is Obama...was not amused at Hagel's seemingly lack of loyalty and seeing Hagel as not being a good yes man to confirm the President's lack of leadership in this issue...Obama forced Hagel to resign... America has few patriots left to challenge the elite fools of Washington... Edited November 25, 2014 by ggt 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 There are reports from inside sources that he was actually fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamahele Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I know that some here would like to bash Obama, but Secretary Hagel was most likely not suited for this position. This is what the information coming out seems to suggest. This without insulting a man who has served his country honorably in uniform, in politics and as Secretary of Defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh869 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 When Chuck Hagel and the Leader of the Military went to the press and TV to expose the ISIS threat while Obama was vacationing...I predicted that Hagel's days would be numbered...so also we might see a new leader named for the Military by Obama... Obama had refused to take seriously the ISIS threat...and Hagel exposing this threat to the public...forced Obama's hand... The Commander and Chief of the US Armed Forces...which is Obama...was not amused at Hagel's seemingly lack of loyalty and seeing Hagel as not being a good yes man to confirm the President's lack of leadership in this issue...Obama forced Hagel to resign... America has few patriots left to challenge the elite fools of Washington... Amen Brother! USAF 1968-1972 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loptr Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 This is what happens when you tell the truth as a cabinet member in the Obama administration... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loptr Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I know that some here would like to bash Obama, but Secretary Hagel was most likely not suited for this position. This is what the information coming out seems to suggest. This without insulting a man who has served his country honorably in uniform, in politics and as Secretary of Defense. Yes, he was the only cabinet member that was a Republican... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JockPieandBeans Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 When Chuck Hagel and the Leader of the Military went to the press and TV to expose the ISIS threat while Obama was vacationing...I predicted that Hagel's days would be numbered...so also we might see a new leader named for the Military by Obama... Obama had refused to take seriously the ISIS threat...and Hagel exposing this threat to the public...forced Obama's hand... The Commander and Chief of the US Armed Forces...which is Obama...was not amused at Hagel's seemingly lack of loyalty and seeing Hagel as not being a good yes man to confirm the President's lack of leadership in this issue...Obama forced Hagel to resign... America has few patriots left to challenge the elite fools of Washington... Yes men ( and women ) The scourge of the West. Whether he walked or was pushed, I hope he keeps his head held high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I can imagine Teddy Cruz rubbing his hands together with glee at the prospect of blocking another appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I am not a fan of Ted Cruz, but if it is to protest Obama ignoring the constitution on other matters, it may be appropriate. He is not the only one who can misuse his powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) I am not a fan of Ted Cruz, but if it is to protest Obama ignoring the constitution on other matters, it may be appropriate. He is not the only one who can misuse his powers. I was being sarcastic UG. Since he's been party to blocking just about every nomination that Obama has put forward, what difference does one more make? He's just a useless and obstructive politician. Edited November 25, 2014 by Chicog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 This is what happens when you tell the truth as a cabinet member in the Obama administration... No, this is what happens when you go against your commander-in-chief's policy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zydeco Posted November 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2014 This is what happens when you tell the truth as a cabinet member in the Obama administration... No, this is what happens when you go against your commander-in-chief's policy. Which is what??? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 This is what happens when you tell the truth as a cabinet member in the Obama administration... No, this is what happens when you go against your commander-in-chief's policy. Which is what??? Oh, now you want me to explain Obama's policies. I understand most anti-Obamaists use Fox News to explain their president's policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) Oh, now you want me to explain Obama's policies. I understand most anti-Obamaists use Fox News to explain their president's policies. There are plenty of democrats that are against Obama's policies and they don't watch Fox. Didn't you pay attention to the midterm election and see all the democrats running away from him and his policies? https://www.facebook.com/pages/Democrats-against-Obama/371305109602093 Edited November 25, 2014 by Ulysses G. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Jumped or pushed it matters little. I would have thought its a case of rats leaving a sinking foreign policy, but for the narcissist in charge heads had to roll after the mid terms. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBouy Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 There are reports from inside sources that he was actually fired. The news confirms this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBouy Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I know that some here would like to bash Obama, but Secretary Hagel was most likely not suited for this position. This is what the information coming out seems to suggest. This without insulting a man who has served his country honorably in uniform, in politics and as Secretary of Defense. He was overwhelmingly confirmed, vets and military support him.Who thinks he was not suited other than potus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBouy Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 What has this topic got to do with Thailand. I have topics removed with the moderator saying "Nothing to do with Thailand" Did you read the title of the topic, many news stories here on TV are of an international nature and have nothing to do with Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBouy Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 This is what happens when you tell the truth as a cabinet member in the Obama administration... No, this is what happens when you go against your commander-in-chief's policy. Which is what??? Oh, now you want me to explain Obama's policies. I understand most anti-Obamaists use Fox News to explain their president's policies. So you obviously have other news sources so can easily explain, potus's policies "Which is what?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBouy Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Jumped or pushed it matters little. I would have thought its a case of rats leaving a sinking foreign policy, but for the narcissist in charge heads had to roll after the mid terms. In other dept's I would agree with you but this is the Defense dept. where it is important that does not happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Off-topic posts and replies removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukebowling Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) I know that some here would like to bash Obama, but Secretary Hagel was most likely not suited for this position. This is what the information coming out seems to suggest. This without insulting a man who has served his country honorably in uniform, in politics and as Secretary of Defense. Poor argument rule # 14: Ignore all statements that include, "seems to" and "most likely"... Edited November 25, 2014 by dukebowling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The question is: Do you embroil the US military in another full on Middle East ground war? It hasn't exactly been a roaring success trying that so far. If Hagel was for it and everyone else against, it does render his position somewhat futile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Oh, now you want me to explain Obama's policies. I understand most anti-Obamaists use Fox News to explain their president's policies. There are plenty of democrats that are against Obama's policies and they don't watch Fox. Didn't you pay attention to the midterm election and see all the democrats running away from him and his policies? https://www.facebook.com/pages/Democrats-against-Obama/371305109602093 Yeah, and many Republicans voted for Obama in 2008 because they were tired of Bush. Our two-party politics is like bumper-cars in the carnival; we go right (Republican) until it hurts; then we go left (Democrat) until it hurts; then we repeat the same cycle. However, my statements concerned the ousting of Hagel for speaking against his commander-in-chief's policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 If Hagel was for it and everyone else against, it does render his position somewhat futile. From what I understand, most the generals agreed with Hagel or rather he agreed with them. It is pretty much Obama against all the military experts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurkster Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 it can be pretty amazing at times how the GOP conducts itself. They don't give a rats ass about the country, just whatever they can do to be contradictory and spiteful to the current president. I don't have a whole lot of love for Mr. Obama but good god, these republicans aren't fooling anyone with their actions either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 It would help your case a lot to give some specific, valid examples, instead of just generic insults. Is that too much to ask? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 This is what happens when you tell the truth as a cabinet member in the Obama administration... No, this is what happens when you go against your commander-in-chief's policy. Which is what??? Oh, now you want me to explain Obama's policies. I understand most anti-Obamaists use Fox News to explain their president's policies. Obama had only one policy and that became Obamacare. For the rest, if it is inconvenient he just goes and plays golf and pretends it's not happening. Only if it is perceived as being good for him will he do anything, as with the raid that killed Bin Laden. Pity he wasn't as concerned for the ambassador in Benghazi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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