Palestinian woman stabs Israeli, shot by security forces

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Palestinian woman stabs Israeli, shot by security forces
JERUSALEM

(Reuters) - A Palestinian woman stabbed an Israeli in the occupied West Bank on Monday and was then shot and wounded by security forces, the military and police said.

Violence in Israel and the Palestinian territories has risen in the past months. Attacks carried out by Palestinians have killed 11 Israelis. Twelve Palestinians have been killed, including several of the assailants.

The latest incident occurred in the Etzion bloc of Jewish settlements near Jerusalem. The Israeli was lightly wounded.

A military spokesman said the Israeli was a civilian and that security forces "overcame the suspect and transferred her for further medical assistance".

A police spokeswoman said the Palestinian woman who carried out the attack was shot.

Full story: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/01/us-mideast-palestinians-israel-idUSKCN0JF1UE20141201


-- Reuters 2014-12-01

[Ulysses G.]

"A police spokeswoman said the Palestinian woman who carried out the attack was shot."

Getting shot is pretty much all these terrorists accomplish with their attacks. They get a lot more of their own people killed than those they hate.

Edited December 1, 2014 by Ulysses G.

[englishoak]

An Israeli was actually injured and only 1 Palestinian was shot and wounded in response ?

Things must be getting better.

[konying]

An Israeli was actually injured and only 1 Palestinian was shot and wounded in response ?

Things must be getting better.

You sound disappointed

[chaiyapoon]

Quiet news day for them.

[dexterm]

It begs the question : why was the Jewish colonist and occupier trespassing in the first place? The woman was exercising her right of self defense. Perhaps she should have asked him nicely to leave....as the Palestinians of Bilin near Ramallah did on Friday.And for their peaceful protest they got tear gassed and hit with rubber bullets.

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=743367

Edited December 1, 2014 by dexterm

[NeverSure]

Quiet news day for them.

No kidding. How many people were stabbed or shot on that same day around the world?

How about a thread about a stabbing or shooting in Italy or somewhere one of these days?

[konying]

It begs the question : why was the Jewish colonist and occupier trespassing in the first place? The woman was exercising her right of self defense. Perhaps she should have asked him nicely to leave.

Great, so i guess IDF is totally justified to shoot any and all Arabs living in Israel. after all they are all tresspassing, the 2 million lot of them.

Really got to love arab posters here, try to think before you speak

[konying]

It begs the question : why was the Jewish colonist and occupier trespassing in the first place? The woman was exercising her right of self defense. Perhaps she should have asked him nicely to leave....as the Palestinians of Bilin near Ramallah did on Friday.And for their peaceful protest they got tear gassed and hit with rubber bullets.

Peaceful

Last time i checked throwing rocks was not part of "peaceful" definition

But then again to arabs stoning each other is part of tradition, so i guess i was wrong

[dexterm]

It begs the question : why was the Jewish colonist and occupier trespassing in the first place? The woman was exercising her right of self defense. Perhaps she should have asked him nicely to leave.

Great, so i guess IDF is totally justified to shoot any and all Arabs living in Israel. after all they are all tresspassing, the 2 million lot of them.

Really got to love arab posters here, try to think before you speak

In 1890 the Jewish population of Palestine was 2%, in 1947 11%, in 2014 80% with 4 million Palestinians living in refugee camps...go figure who the trespassers are!

That's the whole crux of the problem...an uninvited, unwelcome influx of illegal Jewish immigrants swamping the local culture and economy and taking over the land of the existing Palestinian residents, forcing them into refugee camps.

The consequence is today's incident. Oppression breeds resistance.

If Zionists were not occupying the West Bank this would not have happened.

Edited December 1, 2014 by dexterm

[Seastallion]

It begs the question : why was the Jewish colonist and occupier trespassing in the first place? The woman was exercising her right of self defense. Perhaps she should have asked him nicely to leave....as the Palestinians of Bilin near Ramallah did on Friday.And for their peaceful protest they got tear gassed and hit with rubber bullets.

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=743367

JT recently asked about how things would be if Palestinians protested peacefully.

There's your answer, JT....they get shot at and tear-gassed.

I noticed that the bullets weren't rubber bullets, but rubber-coated steel bullets. Why bother with the rubber coat?

Edited December 1, 2014 by Seastallion

[dexterm]

These incidents don't happen in a vacuum.

Perhaps she had had a previous encounter with one of the Israeli gun guards who terrorize Palestinians on a daily basis or a sadistic IDF soldier humiliating her at checkpoint that she needs to cross to move around in her own land..

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/11/israel-gun-guards-terrorise-east-jerusalem-2014112661245358505.html

Or perhaps she was upset with Jewish thugs who burn down mosques and schools.

Here's today's latest arson attack by the "price tag" gangs of Jewish settler thugs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_price_tag_attacks

Arab-Israeli school in Jerusalem 'set on fire' and walls sprayed with racist graffiti

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/arabisraeli-school-in-jerusalem-set-on-fire-with-walls-sprayed-with-racist-graffiti-9893941.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/max-rayne-hand-in-hand-school-arsonists-attack-jerusalem-school-where-jews-and-muslims-learn-side-by-side-9894475.html

[NeverSure]

These incidents don't happen in a vacuum.

Perhaps she had had a previous encounter with one of the Israeli gun guards who terrorize Palestinians on a daily basis or a sadistic IDF soldier humiliating her at checkpoint that she needs to cross to move around in her own land..

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/11/israel-gun-guards-terrorise-east-jerusalem-2014112661245358505.html

Or perhaps she was upset with Jewish thugs who burn down mosques and schools.

Here's today's latest arson attack by the "price tag" gangs of Jewish settler thugs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_price_tag_attacks

Arab-Israeli school in Jerusalem 'set on fire' and walls sprayed with racist graffiti

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/arabisraeli-school-in-jerusalem-set-on-fire-with-walls-sprayed-with-racist-graffiti-9893941.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/max-rayne-hand-in-hand-school-arsonists-attack-jerusalem-school-where-jews-and-muslims-learn-side-by-side-9894475.html

So, when you get upset with someone you stab him, right?

When you stab him you don't expect any consequences, right?

Don't try this at home, kids.

[Lissos]

These incidents don't happen in a vacuum.

Nor did the creation of the entire Israeli security apparatus and restrictions you complain about, happen in a vacuum.

[englishoak]

An Israeli was actually injured and only 1 Palestinian was shot and wounded in response ?

Things must be getting better.

You sound disappointed

Whatever victim mentality works for you

[NeverSure]

It begs the question : why was the Jewish colonist and occupier trespassing in the first place? The woman was exercising her right of self defense. Perhaps she should have asked him nicely to leave.

Great, so i guess IDF is totally justified to shoot any and all Arabs living in Israel. after all they are all tresspassing, the 2 million lot of them.

Really got to love arab posters here, try to think before you speak

In 1890 the Jewish population of Palestine was 2%, in 1947 11%, in 2014 80% with 4 million Palestinians living in refugee camps...go figure who the trespassers are!

That's the whole crux of the problem...an uninvited, unwelcome influx of illegal Jewish immigrants swamping the local culture and economy and taking over the land of the existing Palestinian residents, forcing them into refugee camps.

The consequence is today's incident. Oppression breeds resistance.

If Zionists were not occupying the West Bank this would not have happened.

Please define Palestine in 1890. Can you post a link to a map? Thank you.

[JDGRUEN]

I read the Reuters report. There is simply not enough information to know why she was shot. A Palestinian organization said she was shot - but a hospital did say her wound was serious. So - not even 100% verification that she was shot and not wounded in some other way... perhaps even wrestling for the knife. As Palestinian organizations will say anything to create a small morsel of anti-Israel propaganda.

There is no way from the posted report in the OP to know what happened in the moments of the actual apprehension. Did she continue lashing out with the knife? ... Did she approach an IDF soldier swinging the knife?... Or, was she just shot? Was she injured in some other way?

It would seem those who automatically damn the IDF must be assuming that the woman - stabbed someone for her own good and justifiable reasons... then dropped the knife and surrendered and was shot... or some extreme scenario. But there is no proof of that in the report.

Or that the stabber was just standing there after her act of violence with or without the knife and a IDF soldier just swung a rifle around and shot her. Total conjecture. It is not known at this time.

NONE of that is in the report. Neither is that perhaps she continue attacking people or lunging at them with the knife - did she? We don't know.

Making calloused comments against the IDF from this report is par for the course for the Jew Haters (reincarnates of people of the mid 1930's) ... To Israel haters - It does not matter what complications were in play or not in play - the IDF is guilty - no proof needed - they exist and that is enough.

Those who have become brainwashed to automatically defend Arabs who live in the area as victims and the IDF as the unprovoked aggressor will believe and say anything - regardless of actual proof. This is an amazing replay of the mentality of those people screaming and chanting in Ferguson, MO. Guilty --- no extenuating circumstances exist you know.

Edited December 1, 2014 by JDGRUEN

[dexterm]

It begs the question : why was the Jewish colonist and occupier trespassing in the first place? The woman was exercising her right of self defense. Perhaps she should have asked him nicely to leave.

Great, so i guess IDF is totally justified to shoot any and all Arabs living in Israel. after all they are all tresspassing, the 2 million lot of them.

Really got to love arab posters here, try to think before you speak

In 1890 the Jewish population of Palestine was 2%, in 1947 11%, in 2014 80% with 4 million Palestinians living in refugee camps...go figure who the trespassers are!

That's the whole crux of the problem...an uninvited, unwelcome influx of illegal Jewish immigrants swamping the local culture and economy and taking over the land of the existing Palestinian residents, forcing them into refugee camps.

The consequence is today's incident. Oppression breeds resistance.

If Zionists were not occupying the West Bank this would not have happened.

Please define Palestine in 1890. Can you post a link to a map? Thank you.

Try here...you can even buy one on eBay if you like to remind yourself of Israel's occupation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine#Demographics

http://www.palestineremembered.com/Maps/

http://www.geographicus.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/L/Palestine-black-1851.jpg

https://www.oldworldauctions.com/Auction087/87-282.jpg

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-MAP-ISRAEL-PALESTINE-Hachette-1890-/350556594877

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YygU0wJKhgM/UpXtyBGdoLI/AAAAAAAAaqw/tYAZp9lGeRk/s1600/map+palestine+1890sb.jpg

[dexterm]

I read the Reuters report. There is simply not enough information to know why she was shot. A Palestinian organization said she was shot - but a hospital did say her wound was serious. So - not even 100% verification that she was shot and not wounded in some other way... perhaps even wrestling for the knife. As Palestinian organizations will say anything to create a small morsel of anti-Israel propaganda.

There is no way from the posted report in the OP to know what happened in the moments of the actual apprehension. Did she continue lashing out with the knife? ... Did she approach an IDF soldier swinging the knife?... Or, was she just shot? Was she injured in some other way?

It would seem those who automatically damn the IDF must be assuming that the woman - stabbed someone for her own good and justifiable reasons... then dropped the knife and surrendered and was shot... or some extreme scenario. But there is no proof of that in the report.

Or that the stabber was just standing there after her act of violence with or without the knife and a IDF soldier just swung a rifle around and shot her. Total conjecture. It is not known at this time.

NONE of that is in the report. Neither is that perhaps she continue attacking people or lunging at them with the knife - did she? We don't know.

Making calloused comments against the IDF from this report is par for the course for the Jew Haters (reincarnates of people of the mid 1930's) ... To Israel haters - It does not matter what complications were in play or not in play - the IDF is guilty - no proof needed - they exist and that is enough.

Those who have become brainwashed to automatically defend Arabs who live in the area as victims and the IDF as the unprovoked aggressor will believe and say anything - regardless of actual proof. This is an amazing replay of the mentality of those people screaming and chanting in Ferguson, MO. Guilty --- no extenuating circumstances exist you know.

>>this report is par for the course for the Jew Haters

When in doubt, play the anti semitic card eh. The world is getting tired of Jews the victims, when in Israel Zionist Jews are now the victimizers. I am amazed you can't see the irony.

>>To Israel haters - It does not matter what complications were in play or not in play - the IDF is guilty - no proof needed - they exist and that is enough.

The proof is in the very first line of the OP....read carefully the words "Occupied West Bank". What is a foreign army doing there shooting at Palestinians in their own land?

>>This is an amazing replay of the mentality of those people screaming and chanting in Ferguson, MO

Completely off topic deflection.

[Ulysses G.]

In 1890 the Jewish population of Palestine was 2%

Most experts say at least 3 times that - many say more - but there were no reliable studies back then, so it is mostly guesswork. Are you capable of even one honest post? You have been caught posting false information so many times, it is impossible to keep count.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine

Most of the Arabs AND Jews were "uninvited" immigrants, but prior to the Zionist movement, much of Israel was DESERT and the labor and skills of the Jewish immigrants is what turned that desert into arable land, which brought prosperity to the region, providing work for Jews and Arabs alike. Let's not forget that Jewish economic success is what attracted most the Arabs who emigrated to the Palestine region illegally and their extended families make up most of the group that calls themselves "Palestinians" today.

Edited December 2, 2014 by Ulysses G.

[konying]

It begs the question : why was the Jewish colonist and occupier trespassing in the first place? The woman was exercising her right of self defense. Perhaps she should have asked him nicely to leave.

Great, so i guess IDF is totally justified to shoot any and all Arabs living in Israel. after all they are all tresspassing, the 2 million lot of them.

Really got to love arab posters here, try to think before you speak

In 1890 the Jewish population of Palestine was 2%, in 1947 11%, in 2014 80% with 4 million Palestinians living in refugee camps...go figure who the trespassers are!

That's the whole crux of the problem...an uninvited, unwelcome influx of illegal Jewish immigrants swamping the local culture and economy and taking over the land of the existing Palestinian residents, forcing them into refugee camps.

The consequence is today's incident. Oppression breeds resistance.

If Zionists were not occupying the West Bank this would not have happened.

If there were no arabs at all, there would not be any problems at all-WORLDWIDE

[konying]

Try here...you can even buy one on eBay if you like to remind yourself of Israel's occupation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine#Demographics

http://www.palestineremembered.com/Maps/

http://www.geographicus.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/L/Palestine-black-1851.jpg

https://www.oldworldauctions.com/Auction087/87-282.jpg

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-MAP-ISRAEL-PALESTINE-Hachette-1890-/350556594877

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YygU0wJKhgM/UpXtyBGdoLI/AAAAAAAAaqw/tYAZp9lGeRk/s1600/map+palestine+1890sb.jpg

Any more arab soruces?

[konying]

An Israeli was actually injured and only 1 Palestinian was shot and wounded in response ?

Things must be getting better.

You sound disappointed

Whatever victim mentality works for you

, sorry i do nor speak Arabic

[NeverSure]

In 1890 the Jewish population of Palestine was 2%, in 1947 11%, in 2014 80% with 4 million Palestinians living in refugee camps...go figure who the trespassers are!

That's the whole crux of the problem...an uninvited, unwelcome influx of illegal Jewish immigrants swamping the local culture and economy and taking over the land of the existing Palestinian residents, forcing them into refugee camps.

The consequence is today's incident. Oppression breeds resistance.

If Zionists were not occupying the West Bank this would not have happened.

Please define Palestine in 1890. Can you post a link to a map? Thank you.

Try here...you can even buy one on eBay if you like to remind yourself of Israel's occupation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine#Demographics

http://www.palestineremembered.com/Maps/

http://www.geographicus.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/L/Palestine-black-1851.jpg

https://www.oldworldauctions.com/Auction087/87-282.jpg

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-MAP-ISRAEL-PALESTINE-Hachette-1890-/350556594877

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YygU0wJKhgM/UpXtyBGdoLI/AAAAAAAAaqw/tYAZp9lGeRk/s1600/map+palestine+1890sb.jpg

From your first link, the only one I needed to look at. Look at those maps.

Palestine was a region that encompassed parts of several countries. It never was a country called Palestine and there never were people called Palestinians until the PLO and Arafat hijacked the name for themselves in the 1980's.

There was a nation called Israel at least 3,000 years ago. It was part of Palestine.

[car720]

It begs the question : why was the Jewish colonist and occupier trespassing in the first place? The woman was exercising her right of self defense. Perhaps she should have asked him nicely to leave.

Great, so i guess IDF is totally justified to shoot any and all Arabs living in Israel. after all they are all tresspassing, the 2 million lot of them.

Really got to love arab posters here, try to think before you speak

In 1890 the Jewish population of Palestine was 2%, in 1947 11%, in 2014 80% with 4 million Palestinians living in refugee camps...go figure who the trespassers are!

That's the whole crux of the problem...an uninvited, unwelcome influx of illegal Jewish immigrants swamping the local culture and economy and taking over the land of the existing Palestinian residents, forcing them into refugee camps.

The consequence is today's incident. Oppression breeds resistance.

If Zionists were not occupying the West Bank this would not have happened.

Please define Palestine in 1890. Can you post a link to a map? Thank you.

Here's one. I can see the word Palestine but no mention of Israel.

I thought Israel wasn't a nation until the yanks recognized it as one, the day after they sent their women and children ashore first and the British were unshore whether to shoot them or not until it was too late.

[car720]

In 1890 the Jewish population of Palestine was 2%, in 1947 11%, in 2014 80% with 4 million Palestinians living in refugee camps...go figure who the trespassers are!

That's the whole crux of the problem...an uninvited, unwelcome influx of illegal Jewish immigrants swamping the local culture and economy and taking over the land of the existing Palestinian residents, forcing them into refugee camps.

The consequence is today's incident. Oppression breeds resistance.

If Zionists were not occupying the West Bank this would not have happened.

Please define Palestine in 1890. Can you post a link to a map? Thank you.

Try here...you can even buy one on eBay if you like to remind yourself of Israel's occupation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine#Demographics

http://www.palestineremembered.com/Maps/

http://www.geographicus.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/L/Palestine-black-1851.jpg

https://www.oldworldauctions.com/Auction087/87-282.jpg

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-MAP-ISRAEL-PALESTINE-Hachette-1890-/350556594877

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YygU0wJKhgM/UpXtyBGdoLI/AAAAAAAAaqw/tYAZp9lGeRk/s1600/map+palestine+1890sb.jpg

From your first link, the only one I needed to look at. Look at those maps.

Palestine was a region that encompassed parts of several countries. It never was a country called Palestine and there never were people called Palestinians until the PLO and Arafat hijacked the name for themselves in the 1980's.

There was a nation called Israel at least 3,000 years ago. It was part of Palestine.

A nation huh?

I thought the correct word was tribe.

[dexterm]

In 1890 the Jewish population of Palestine was 2%

Most experts say at least 3 times that - many say more - but there were no reliable studies back then, so it is mostly guesswork. Are you capable of even one honest post? You have been caught posting false information so many times, it is impossible to keep count.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine

Most of the Arabs AND Jews were "uninvited" immigrants, but prior to the Zionist movement, much of Israel was DESERT and the labor and skills of the Jewish immigrants is what turned that desert into arable land, which brought prosperity to the region, providing work for Jews and Arabs alike. Let's not forget that Jewish economic success is what attracted most the Arabs who emigrated to the Palestine region illegally and their extended families make up most of the group that calls themselves "Palestinians" today.

So let’s see, even by your reckoning that makes it 6% Jews to 94% Palestinians in 1890, and 80% Jewish population of Israel today, with 4 million Palestinians living as refugees. Point proven...thank you. Can I quote you on this in future?

No links as per usual to your second myth that Zionists made the empty desert bloom...the area that was the cradle of civilization and the land bridge between Asia, Africa and Europe had only a handful of people who couldn't feed themselves until the saviour Zionists came along, the ones who now uproot Palestinian olive groves and orchards for illegal Zionist colonist housing estates.

That myth is very extensively debunked here. Well worth a read

http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Palestine-Remembered/Story665.html

...and we all know what comes next. When confronted with the overwhelming truth, ... shoot the messenger.

[Ulysses G.]

So, you are back to linking to dishonest hate-sites, instead of links to credible ones that directly refute the false information in your posts. I supposed that is some kind of progress.

[Ulysses G.]

In 1890 the Jewish population of Palestine was 2%, in 1947 11%, in 2014 80% with 4 million Palestinians living in refugee camps...go figure who the trespassers are!

That's the whole crux of the problem...an uninvited, unwelcome influx of illegal Jewish immigrants swamping the local culture and economy and taking over the land of the existing Palestinian residents, forcing them into refugee camps.

The consequence is today's incident. Oppression breeds resistance.

If Zionists were not occupying the West Bank this would not have happened.

Please define Palestine in 1890. Can you post a link to a map? Thank you.

Try here...you can even buy one on eBay if you like to remind yourself of Israel's occupation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine#Demographics

From your first link, the only one I needed to look at. Look at those maps.

Palestine was a region that encompassed parts of several countries. It never was a country called Palestine and there never were people called Palestinians until the PLO and Arafat hijacked the name for themselves in the 1980's.

There was a nation called Israel at least 3,000 years ago. It was part of Palestine.

I spoke too soon. dexterm is back to posting links that actually refute his fiction and pretending like they support his nonsensical version of history.

[dexterm]

Neversure ...you made the very basic junior lawyer's mistake of asking a question

Please define Palestine in 1890. Can you post a link to a map? Thank you.

...to which you did not know the answer. ..you shudda googled first

There are heaps more 19th and 20th century maps with the word "Palestine" clearly printed on them. It's been around a lot longer than Israel.

Edited December 2, 2014 by dexterm