Are Thai police trigger happy?

[Baa_Mango]

There are plenty of instances of Thais shooting Falungs but I've never heard of a cop shooting one.

Cops have to buy their own firearms which they get under the Sawatee Ganh scheme which means the get around 50% discount (still 50k Baht plus) but can't sell the gun for five years. So what a lot of them do is buy the gun then pawn it and keep it pristine until they can sell it.

That's why you see most cops carrying very aged weapons and some of them are even BB guns.

when you say falung you mean foreigner right? 50k for a guN? most cops i've talked to are movin them round 10-20 k .

nutter

[Lex Talionis]

There are plenty of instances of Thais shooting Falungs but I've never heard of a cop shooting one.{snip}

Vanessa Arscott, Adam Lloyd, Leo Del Pinto. All falangs & shot by cops.

[Gumballl]

How much time have you spent in the US? I've never seen a US policeman take his gun out.

In the country with the world's 3rd largest population, there will be more of many things. But I've never seen it.

I for one have witnessed, on two separate occasions, a police officer draw his gun at someone during traffic stops. Coincidentally, both cases were in South Florida (Ft. Lauderdale and Miami).

When I lived in Los Angeles, I saw police officer accidentally drop his 9mm on the floor, as he was sitting down at a table in a crowded fast-food restaurant. It was something that one does not see everyday.

Edited December 13, 2014 by Gumballl

[Beetlejuice]

The Thai police are just as trigger happy as the American police, only the American cops are faster on the draw. I know, I used to watch Gunsmoke as a kid.

[benalibina]

The Thai police are just as trigger happy as the American police, only the American cops are faster on the draw. I know, I used to watch Gunsmoke as a kid.

Hmm...i thought Columbo....would be more to your liking.....my bad...

[ATF]

There are plenty of instances of Thais shooting Falungs but I've never heard of a cop shooting one.

Cops have to buy their own firearms which they get under the Sawatee Ganh scheme which means the get around 50% discount (still 50k Baht plus) but can't sell the gun for five years. So what a lot of them do is buy the gun then pawn it and keep it pristine until they can sell it.

That's why you see most cops carrying very aged weapons and some of them are even BB guns.

when you say falung you mean foreigner right? 50k for a guN? most cops i've talked to are movin them round 10-20 k .

nutter

http://www.gunsservice.com/index.php?m=products&op=search&sch_cat_id=31

The prices quoted are Police prices and Military prices give them a call if you don't believe me.

Here's another one http://www.yothinfirearms.com/

Public prices are about double. A 10-20k pistol will not have papers and either be extremely old or could have been confiscated from criminals.

[Langsuan Man]

This question seems to have been answered with this story here :

Russian Pedestrian shot by Police as they chase two bag snatchers in Jomtien

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/784139-russian-pedestrian-shot-by-police-as-they-chase-two-bag-snatchers-in-jomtien/

[rwdrwdrwd]

This question seems to have been answered with this story here :

Russian Pedestrian shot by Police as they chase two bag snatchers in Jomtien

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/784139-russian-pedestrian-shot-by-police-as-they-chase-two-bag-snatchers-in-jomtien/

Not really

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/08/25/justice/new-york-empire-state-shooting/

New York (CNN) -- On a busy Friday morning in Manhattan, nine pedestrians suffered bullet or fragment wounds after police unleashed a hail of gunfire at a man wielding a .45 caliber pistol who had just killed a former co-worker.

The officers unloaded 16 rounds in the shadow of the Empire State Building at a disgruntled former apparel designer, killing him after he engaged in a gunbattle with police, authorities said.

Three passersby sustained direct gunshot wounds, while the remaining six were hit by fragments, according to New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly. All injuries were caused by police, he said Saturday.

[Briggsy]

What Thai police are is often untrained and always unaccountable. OP may be asking the wrong question.

[Langsuan Man]

This question seems to have been answered with this story here :

Russian Pedestrian shot by Police as they chase two bag snatchers in Jomtien

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/784139-russian-pedestrian-shot-by-police-as-they-chase-two-bag-snatchers-in-jomtien/

Not really

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/08/25/justice/new-york-empire-state-shooting/

New York (CNN) -- On a busy Friday morning in Manhattan, nine pedestrians suffered bullet or fragment wounds after police unleashed a hail of gunfire at a man wielding a .45 caliber pistol who had just killed a former co-worker.

The officers unloaded 16 rounds in the shadow of the Empire State Building at a disgruntled former apparel designer, killing him after he engaged in a gunbattle with police, authorities said.

Three passersby sustained direct gunshot wounds, while the remaining six were hit by fragments, according to New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly. All injuries were caused by police, he said Saturday.

" After he engaged in a gun battle with police" not really the same as " chasing two bag snatchers " who did not directly threaten the police

[rwdrwdrwd]

After he engaged in a gun battle with police" not really the same as " chasing two bag snatchers " who did not directly threaten the police

I'm not sure that the original crime is really relevant to the accidental shooting of 9 (NINE) bystanders all by the US Police who were aiming for a single person, but if you insist, here are some alternative occurences

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/05/nyregion/unarmed-man-is-charged-with-wounding-bystanders-shot-by-police-near-times-square.html?_r=0

http://www.dailybreeze.com/general-news/20130208/lapd-looking-for-dorner-accused-of-street-justice-for-opening-fire-on-truck-in-torrance

[Langsuan Man]

After he engaged in a gun battle with police" not really the same as " chasing two bag snatchers " who did not directly threaten the police

I'm not sure that the original crime is really relevant to the accidental shooting of 9 (NINE) bystanders all by the US Police who were aiming for a single person, but if you insist, here are some alternative occurences

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/05/nyregion/unarmed-man-is-charged-with-wounding-bystanders-shot-by-police-near-times-square.html?_r=0

http://www.dailybreeze.com/general-news/20130208/lapd-looking-for-dorner-accused-of-street-justice-for-opening-fire-on-truck-in-torrance

Yes it is relevant, if you knew anything about the law and how it pertains to use of deadly force. Deadly force is to only be used when the life of an officer is in danger or in the prevention of the escape of a fleeing felon who the officer believes has a potential to harm the public

And trust me, bag snatching is not a crime that falls into either of those categories

[jimcooper1]

The Thai Police ... much, much worse then in the USA.

Lockind ... stay in the UK ... much safer there.

Nonsense

Oh so they safe in uk ?

[H1w4yR1da]

Hearing in the US recently about all of the high-publicity cases.

How do Thai police compare?

What's the big deal about the U.S. police? They Trayvoned a couple of gangbangers. What's the problem?

[rwdrwdrwd]

After he engaged in a gun battle with police" not really the same as " chasing two bag snatchers " who did not directly threaten the police

I'm not sure that the original crime is really relevant to the accidental shooting of 9 (NINE) bystanders all by the US Police who were aiming for a single person, but if you insist, here are some alternative occurences

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/05/nyregion/unarmed-man-is-charged-with-wounding-bystanders-shot-by-police-near-times-square.html?_r=0

http://www.dailybreeze.com/general-news/20130208/lapd-looking-for-dorner-accused-of-street-justice-for-opening-fire-on-truck-in-torrance

Yes it is relevant, if you knew anything about the law and how it pertains to use of deadly force. Deadly force is to only be used when the life of an officer is in danger or in the prevention of the escape of a fleeing felon who the officer believes has a potential to harm the public

And trust me, bag snatching is not a crime that falls into either of those categories

Oh I know what they are allowed to do, just seems to not take very much evidence at all for US coppers to claim the perceived need for deadly force, and that this is wide open to abuse.

Hence, they are easily as trigger happy as Thai cops - the question the OP asks - so far as I see it. They just are more aware of the correct answer to give when asked to justify their decision.

Put cameras on all of them.

Edited December 15, 2014 by rwdrwdrwd

[Rancid]

Well you read how US cops can now confiscate cash. Saw they just tasered a70 yo for a traffic offence.

Bizarrely seems that Thai cops are a safer bet these days.