Why Are You Even Here? The Surprising Attitudes of Some Expats in Thailand

[Chao Lao Beach]

Si it seems common enough that somtimes in order for a forign allien to get a Work Permit, 4 Thais need to be employed.

Appartently no actual money is paid, and these staff are just employess of the mob "accountants" who set up the company on behalf of the owners, or just freiends, in-laws etc.

I believe that a social security payment of about 1500b a month each is paid, and it is common for the 4 staff to be on min wage and below the 150,000b a year tax threashold.

Link to Tax rates, scroll down : http://www.rd.go.th/publish/6045.0.html

My question is, wouldn't them listed as a emplyee, count towards their total income, and if they have anohter job, may bump them up into another theashold.

Why would a Thai agree to this situation ?

[i claudius]

Dont know about that ,but the wife had to attend the office the other day to have her picture taken with the other girls ,and she pays tax

[Briggsy]

I would suggest that is not your problem. Let the accountant worry about that one. Or more precisely, let THEIR accountant worry about that one.

[konying]

Incorrect information. For WP to be approved or extended , they want pics of foreigner and staff in the work place .

They also come out to check randomly.

[Chao Lao Beach]

Incorrect information. For WP to be approved or extended , they want pics of foreigner and staff in the work place .

They also come out to check randomly.

Oh, that issue is solved, job description: surf facebook doing reaserch and take selfies at home !!!

[ukchatterbox]

Most are only too pleased to be of assistance. The tax payments go towards their overall social security payments affording them health care and pension entitlement

[Baerboxer]

Incorrect information. For WP to be approved or extended , they want pics of foreigner and staff in the work place .

They also come out to check randomly.

Really? I've also heard that, but I know someone who runs a successful business with his wife and no more employees. Initially, I believe he had a driver plus his wife as the 2 employees and then the driver resigned after the first month. All set up by lawyers - Thai/European so apparently legal. Doesn't seem to have affected his WP renewal.

Nothing ever seems to be the same.

[Satcommlee]

If you don't really employ these people then your whole company structure is at risk! Hope you don't have too much to lose!

[konying]

Incorrect information. For WP to be approved or extended , they want pics of foreigner and staff in the work place .

They also come out to check randomly.

Really? I've also heard that, but I know someone who runs a successful business with his wife and no more employees. Initially, I believe he had a driver plus his wife as the 2 employees and then the driver resigned after the first month. All set up by lawyers - Thai/European so apparently legal. Doesn't seem to have affected his WP renewal.

Nothing ever seems to be the same.

You do not know what is on the books, you do not know what is submitted and you do not know how much was paid NOT to have a visit

Just as you do not know, while driver may have resigned, they continued to pay social security making him a current employee

Also i believe with Thai wife, need only 2 employees, not 4. not too sure on conditions, but for sure not the same. wife director, husband an employee or something like that

[Chao Lao Beach]

Is there a list of provences that only need 2 staff if married to ta Thai ?

I read here that Bangkok demands 4, some only 2.

[konying]

Is there a list of provences that only need 2 staff if married to ta Thai ?

I read here that Bangkok demands 4, some only 2.

it should be the same across the country, but may be best to ask the lawyer section

[Chao Lao Beach]

Many people have reported here that in thier proviene they only need 2 people.

[innerspace]

Many people have reported here that in thier proviene they only need 2 people.

If married to a Thai...

[Chao Lao Beach]

It seems Chonburi as stated in another post requires 4 staff X 9000b min a month if married to a Thai, can anyone name any proviences that only require 2 or is it only bar talk I wonder ?

[TerryLH]

"I believe that a social security payment of about 1500b a month each is paid, and it is common for the 4 staff to be on min wage and below the 150,000b a year tax threashold."

For a minimum wage job the Social Security fee would be about 900 baht (or a little lower) each month. That would include both the employees share and the employers share. 5% from each up to a max of 1500 total per month.