MrBrad Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Judging by a recent lab report, what you read on the label is not always what you get in the bottle - even from some trusted names. This, for example, was how world leader GNC fared in tests for their herbal supplements in the US. GNC: Six "Herbal Plus" brand herbal supplements per store were purchased and analyzed: Gingko Biloba, St. John's Wort, Ginseng, Garlic, Echinacea, and Saw Palmetto. Purchased from four locations with representative stores in Binghamton, Harlem, Plattsburgh & Suffolk. Only one supplement consistently tested for its labeled contents: Garlic. One bottle of Saw Palmetto tested positive for containing DNA from the saw palmetto plant, while three others did not. The remaining four supplement types yielded mixed results, but none revealed DNA from the labeled herb. Of 120 DNA tests run on 24 bottles of the herbal products purchased, DNA matched label identification 22% of the time. Contaminants identified included asparagus, rice, primrose, alfalfa/clover, spruce, ranuncula, houseplant, allium, legume, saw palmetto, and Echinacea. Full report here New York Times article here Buyer beware Here's a NewsHour segment on this very topic from the Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) in the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevindorian Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 just tried to order from iherb for the first time see this on their order page Please Note: Due to Thailand customs currently preventing importing of our products we have currently suspended shipping orders to Thailand with DHL Express or UPS International. We are currently working with customs to determine what we can do to get our packages to be allowed entry into your country. We apologize for any inconvenience this has caused you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfc Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 just tried to order from iherb for the first time see this on their order page Please Note: Due to Thailand customs currently preventing importing of our products we have currently suspended shipping orders to Thailand with DHL Express or UPS International. We are currently working with customs to determine what we can do to get our packages to be allowed entry into your country. We apologize for any inconvenience this has caused you. Yes, I contacted them directly and they said that they'd send to me if I insisted but that they'd had a lot of problems with orders not arriving. I said I'd risk it and tried an order anyway. That was about 4 months ago and I'm still waiting. Not blaming them at all because they gave me fair warning. I'm glad that some people are getting their orders though and no idea what is going on but obviously it's not just me as iherb themselves have said that it's a big enough problem that they'd rather not ship here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevindorian Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 They told me 1. They can send international air only if a. it is 80 dollars or less for the order b. It is 4 lbs or less as well for the order I you go over a or b then you can't send, you have to do multiple orders Also they said some things still might not make it anyway as Thailand sees supplements as drugs, so if you get pill supplements you might not get them unless you go through a broker or have a doctor notice etc etc..... I wanted both supplements and non supplements Anyone have any experiences with their system as it is now. Iherb said they still have a pretty good success rate to the country with the process if you follow above, but its a chance u got to take as it will be non refundable etc if you lose it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elektrified Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 My family and I order from www.iherb.com all the time. Just got an order on Saturday. Never paid a Satang in taxes/duty. Keep your order at round US $50.00 and you will be fine. Shipping cos is about US $4.00. Never had a box opened in years and many, many orders. Use this link for a discount http://www.iherb.com?rcode=GEV414 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chingmai331 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 How do you guys measure the effectiveness of these herbs? So you pop 12 pills per day and don't suffer gout. Does that mean the pills are working? From what i have read, most, nearly all, herbal products are scams and of no merit. But that does not mean that you cannot believe otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesekraft Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 How do you guys measure the effectiveness of these herbs? So you pop 12 pills per day and don't suffer gout. Does that mean the pills are working? From what i have read, most, nearly all, herbal products are scams and of no merit. But that does not mean that you cannot believe otherwise. I dont take herbs, but there are some vitamins where the evidence is so overwhelmingly supportive it is worth taking on faith (Vitamin D3, vitamin K) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCor Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 How do you guys measure the effectiveness of these herbs? So you pop 12 pills per day and don't suffer gout. Does that mean the pills are working? From what i have read, most, nearly all, herbal products are scams and of no merit. But that does not mean that you cannot believe otherwise. Such an odd comment. While there are many who want to believe in a magical solution to their real (or imagined or self-diagnosed problems), herbals, vitamins and minerals, and similarly bottled items for the most part are considered or even classified as 'food supplements'. There may be many reasons why your normal dietary intake doesn't provide the right balance for your body to self-regulate for good health. Other times, you're actually trying to knock your system out of whack to induce a certain response. Do you eat yogurt? Why? Do you eat food bathed in vinegar? Why? Then there are the body builders who want high carbs or high protein. There are lots of effective reasons for using these things. There are also a lot of hype and hope being peddled. Want to measure the 'effectiveness'? Get tests done alone the way. If you actually diagnosed as suffering from gout (said to initially be caused by an excess of uric acid in the blood from consuming red meat, poultry and seafood) then change your diet, and if that doesn't completely alleviate the issue then look at what you can 'take' to that will assist in reduce the uric acid in the blood. It might just require a 'food supplement' or it may require a pharmaceutical. Effectiveness can both be measured by reduced pain and swelling, along with reading results of regular blood tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddinChonburi Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Why does it say on there website they are no longer shipping to Thailand ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 My family and I order from www.iherb.com all the time. Just got an order on Saturday. Never paid a Satang in taxes/duty. Keep your order at round US $50.00 and you will be fine. Shipping cos is about US $4.00. Never had a box opened in years and many, many orders. Use this link for a discount http://www.iherb.com?rcode=GEV414 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCor Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Why does it say on there website they are no longer shipping to Thailand ? Did you skip reading post #33 - #35 ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevindorian Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) Why does it say on there website they are no longer shipping to Thailand ? I never said they were not shipping at all to Thailand I said that only the International Air option was available and you had to have an order 80 dollars or less and 4lbs in total weight or less. As I stated in post #35 the other options were no longer available. I only noticed this when I tried to check out and buy something it was then I got the new Thailand Instructions. I also talked to the live support and they told me only Air was available and if you are sending supplements you might have some problems getting them as Thailand sees supplements as drugs In any case if you plan to do it, there seems to be some risk, I dont think a huge one but it seems some people have had bad luck with iherbs but just the minority while most have had good luck, if you follow the above rules I plan to order and take the chance, it is my first time, so will see if I get it or not:) Edited February 11, 2015 by kevindorian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddinChonburi Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Just made my first order after discount was under $30 US I am going to wait and see if it arrives then will order more. Thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Just received an order from iHerb, as usual no problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevindorian Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I sent an order today as well, says it will be here Feb 24th to March 17th so will wait and see if it makes it it was less then 50 bucks about 3.5 pounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddinChonburi Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 I made my order on 2-14 and it arrived today 2-28 awesome ready to order more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevindorian Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 got mine as well ordered on 16th and arrived today the 28th and was left at my condo front desk. Condo staff said it was 10 baht fee for the postage.... cant complain on that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesekraft Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 got mine as well ordered on 16th and arrived today the 28th and was left at my condo front desk. Condo staff said it was 10 baht fee for the postage.... cant complain on that sorry mate they are pocketing 3 baht! It should be 7 baht my last package also was charged 7 baht. if anyone is interested in a coupon for % of iherb send me a pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevindorian Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 it actually was 7, i just let him keep the change:) big spender I am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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