PREM-R Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) I wonder if a meeting between the US charge d'affaires and Bilaibhan Sampatisiri would play out like this:- Meeting begins Bilaibhan Sampatisiri - "Welcome, Sit down pees" US charge d'affaires - "Why thank you M'am" Bilaibhan Sampatisiri - "Why you country talk bad about Thai lan?" US charge d'affaires - "The views expressed by our diplomats reflect the views of the US state department, they are not personal views" Bilaibhan Sampatisiri - "But Thai lan, no same country you, Thai lan have good people take care country, you talk no good Thai lan." US charge d'affaires - I can only repeat, the views of the US state department reflect the situation as we see it in Thailand. Bilaibhan Sampatisiri - (picks up glass of water on table and smashes it on the ground) YOU NO UNDERSTAN THAI LAN, YOU BAD MAN, YOU GO NOW, THAI LAN NO NEED BAD PEOPLE, YOU BAD PEOPLE, FARANG, YOU GO HOME." Meeting ends. Really. Do you speak fluent Thai with no accent? Have you met this lady and therefore in a position to comment on her English language skills? Or just taking the piss to belittle anything Thai. Suppose you think the banned disgraced former PM is eloquent with a high command of the English language? After all she wrote her master's thesis in it. Hey Mr. Baerboxer, you need to chill out a little and learn to love Mr. Obama et al. So many 'negative waves' so early in the morning. As for Khun Bilaibhan and her English language ability, I have no idea but I did see Dr. Pornchai Rujiprapa,Thailand's Minister of Information and Communication Technology interviewed on Channel News Asia last night and he could not speak a word of English. I suspect that reflects the whole group, did you ever hear Chan Ocha speak in English? Edited January 30, 2015 by PREM-R 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Yes it sounds ridiculous, but I guess the Thai government might be suprised, incredulous and also alarmed by the statements of the US' offcial who seemed not to care about Thailand's stability as a country in the next months or couple of years. I wonder why US apparently refuse to understand that democracy cannot return to Thailand just today, but tomorrow it will. Waiting in a stable and safe situation for now is better than again opening the gates to the power grabbers who could plunge the country into chaos. For Thailand time is of the essence, others should give Thailand the time it needs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homeropec Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) I really hope the world laughs at these idiots. This is the image Thailand wants in the world, they can have it. I hope the embassies keep goading them. This is a very childish and pitiful effort to justify their undemocratic behaviour. Now, NLA panel to summon US envoy Thainess in its pure essense : ) ... these people -the so self named "good and descent people"- are ruling the country what it can be expected??? Edited January 30, 2015 by Homeropec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLing Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Yes it sounds ridiculous, but I guess the Thai government might be suprised, incredulous and also alarmed by the statements of the US' offcial who seemed not to care about Thailand's stability as a country in the next months or couple of years. I wonder why US apparently refuse to understand that democracy cannot return to Thailand just today, but tomorrow it will. Waiting in a stable and safe situation for now is better than again opening the gates to the power grabbers who could plunge the country into chaos. For Thailand time is of the essence, others should give Thailand the time it needs. Only problem, in Thailand, yesterday is long gone and tomorrow, tomorrow never comes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 If you people are not happy about what happens in this country, why stay here Try to think about it 'til the very end- what would happen if all people who are "not happy" with something where they live would just give in and move somewhere else? Btw. what brought you here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post klauskunkel Posted January 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2015 Bilaibhan Sampatisiri, chairperson of the NLA panel, said yesterday that US charge d'affaires Patrick Murphy would be invited to appear before the committee If Uncle Fester's love interest would invite me for a meeting, I would not go! No way! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveat Emptor Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Thailand, the hub of Drama Queens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon467367354 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Regardless of anything, what business is it of the US to meddle in other countries affairs? Their track record speaks for itself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Bilaibhan Sampatisiri, chairperson of the NLA panel, said yesterday that US charge d'affaires Patrick Murphy would be invited to appear before the committee If Uncle Fester's love interest would invite me for a meeting, I would not go! No way! LOL, well done, I tried to imagine a way to put it as funnily and tactfully, 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigPig Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Yes absolute hog wash there is no need for martial law and it pulls the profile of Thailand down even lower ! Martial law is institigated in time of absolute need. And a spat between political parties is not enough. A game of power takes earnings from people. I hope you ar now going to report yourself in for ¨Attitude Readjustment¨ courses....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homeropec Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 So, every single nation outside Thailand should stick to the Junta in Thailand and have no opinion on their own? Summon every body you want with your Thainess and "attitude adjustment", but realize that everybody outside Thailand is NOT THAI and don't think as a Thai. and not to forget that you (thailand) make business with them... For instance, they largely depends on turism (about 20 million per year, you know these people left money in Thailand?) . It is indicative that the number of tourist has dropped dramatically -although the attempt to make-up statistics by some agencies... no tourists means no money for a lot of thai business and goverment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluek Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 "Meanwhile, security expert Panitan Wattanayagorn said yesterday that it was possible that some former Thai politicians were working with certain American interest groups, resulting in the latest US move against Thailand." This suggestion that Thaksin is paying off anyone in the US with enough influence to provoke official comments like Russel's is not only insane, it also shows the self-inflated attitude of some of thes nationalist Thais. In addition to the US, the European Union, Australia and Japan (in other words, the whole free world) have been equally critical of Thailand's unelected military regime that suppresses basic freedoms. Did Thaksin pay off all of them? The truth is that Prayut and company do not have many friends in the world. Thaksin might have influence in Thailand, but not outside. This idea that he's powerful enough to influence some of the world's most powerful governments (not to mention major media outlets -- remember the "BBC has been bribed by Thaksin" BS?) is utterly absurd. It also only serves to inflate his ego and the delusional perception that his enemies have of him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I actually think the problem here is that the US chose to meet the ex PM which quite honestly was an incredibly stupid diplomatic error no matter how you look at it, they said in a statement they were not taking sides but this very meeting tells a different story. It is well understood that the US must take a certain position when it comes to its stance on democracy but they also must recognise that Thailands solution to a growing political implosion and removal of a very obviously defunct administration has been the most peaceful and effective in recent global history, it is also worth mentioning that the current effort by all concerned seems like a genuine effort to produce a solid base for a future sustainable democracy in the not to distant future. The recent US interference could have put the current stability at considerable risk and was therefore IMO an error, martial law is a draconian environment by any standards but perhaps a necessity in this instance while the reform process continues to conclusion without interference, it is also worth noting that certain factions were offered but refused to take part, it is easy to see the usual dogs biting at the heels with every opportunity - it is unfortunate but unavoidable that the mechanism to silence them needs to stay in place and so it should. The PM's and NLA's reaction was not correct either, make a statement disagree and move along - done and dusted If at the end of the process and a referendum and elections do not take place then that is a totally different ball game and the US would have every right to get involved along with other western countries - but for now they need to butt out and keep their diplomats under strict control and allow this process to run its course unabated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccarty Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Murphy is banking on "no publicity is bad publicity" and has the reaction he wants from the NLA. Good work Khun Bilaibhan! American government officials should keep their nose out of other countries internal politics. Let businesses and special interest groups continue to do that as they always have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfukata Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 the buffoon stooges at the greatest appearance, I just love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acharn Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 englishoak post # 12. I'd say some in that lot could do with a spell at one of those attitude adjustment camp of theirs. Agreed. However I would go one step further and suggest that both Thailand and America could do with time in their assorted''adjustment camps.'' America doesn't have "adjustment camps." We have prisons. "Adjustment camps" are for wimps. To prove it we have more of our people in prison than any other country in the world. We have the longest sentences for the smallest crimes, too. Take that, junta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I actually think the problem here is that the US chose to meet the ex PM which quite honestly was an incredibly stupid diplomatic error no matter how you look at it, they said in a statement they were not taking sides but this very meeting tells a different story. It is well understood that the US must take a certain position when it comes to its stance on democracy but they also must recognise that Thailands solution to a growing political implosion and removal of a very obviously defunct administration has been the most peaceful and effective in recent global history, it is also worth mentioning that the current effort by all concerned seems like a genuine effort to produce a solid base for a future sustainable democracy in the not to distant future. The recent US interference could have put the current stability at considerable risk and was therefore IMO an error, martial law is a draconian environment by any standards but perhaps a necessity in this instance while the reform process continues to conclusion without interference, it is also worth noting that certain factions were offered but refused to take part, it is easy to see the usual dogs biting at the heels with every opportunity - it is unfortunate but unavoidable that the mechanism to silence them needs to stay in place and so it should. The PM's and NLA's reaction was not correct either, make a statement disagree and move along - done and dusted If at the end of the process and a referendum and elections do not take place then that is a totally different ball game and the US would have every right to get involved along with other western countries - but for now they need to butt out and keep their diplomats under strict control and allow this process to run its course unabated. and here is a quote from another thread that is very relevant to this "If we comply [with US wishes] … and lift martial law and it leads to problems, how will those people who are asking for the lifting of martial law take responsibility?" Don said. "In reality, Thais don't even know there is martial law." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREM-R Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I actually think the problem here is that the US chose to meet the ex PM which quite honestly was an incredibly stupid diplomatic error no matter how you look at it, they said in a statement they were not taking sides but this very meeting tells a different story. It is well understood that the US must take a certain position when it comes to its stance on democracy but they also must recognise that Thailands solution to a growing political implosion and removal of a very obviously defunct administration has been the most peaceful and effective in recent global history, it is also worth mentioning that the current effort by all concerned seems like a genuine effort to produce a solid base for a future sustainable democracy in the not to distant future. The recent US interference could have put the current stability at considerable risk and was therefore IMO an error, martial law is a draconian environment by any standards but perhaps a necessity in this instance while the reform process continues to conclusion without interference, it is also worth noting that certain factions were offered but refused to take part, it is easy to see the usual dogs biting at the heels with every opportunity - it is unfortunate but unavoidable that the mechanism to silence them needs to stay in place and so it should. The PM's and NLA's reaction was not correct either, make a statement disagree and move along - done and dusted If at the end of the process and a referendum and elections do not take place then that is a totally different ball game and the US would have every right to get involved along with other western countries - but for now they need to butt out and keep their diplomats under strict control and allow this process to run its course unabated. and here is a quote from another thread that is very relevant to this "If we comply [with US wishes] … and lift martial law and it leads to problems, how will those people who are asking for the lifting of martial law take responsibility?" Don said. "In reality, Thais don't even know there is martial law." "In reality, Thais don't even know there is martial law." Well Smed, it that is the case then removing it would have no effect at all, would it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godders Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Being the leader of a country is a very very important role. There are 66 million people who rely on that person being of sound judgement and intelligence to do the job. It is not a role to be given over to negligent incompetents, and I think we would all agree that Yingluck is both. Such as Thailand's piss poor form of democracy that allows idiots like this to be put into the top position in the first place, things need to be done to shield the nation from such absurd happenings. Unfortunately the nation is so full of moronic individuals that the head moron would likely get voted back into power, because the Thais just don't get it. So things like impeachments are necessary to save the idiots from themselves. But it is obvious Yingluck WAS negligent, and that negligence DID allow massive corruption to flourish, so that impeachment was 100% justified. Even if it WAS politically motivated, then that motivation is justified in itself for the above reasons. This is maybe what the NLA should be explaining to the US rather than whinging like kids. If you think the US is wrong, then just explain it to them till they understand. Fortunately for the Yanks, their electorate is a bit better educated.... hang on..... Bush, Obama..... Maybe not. After an illogical rant like that, one can only assume attitude adjustment works at a subliminal level. Maybe you should spend your Fridays doing something else rather than watching TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Oh, jeez we have hurt your feelings. may be now you know how we feel when our feelings are hurt by unscrupulous Thai ladies bankrupting guys who just want peace and quiet. Not to talk about harassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Just1Voice Posted January 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2015 Some people are "offended" and "outraged" that Russell met with Yingluck, but totally mute on the fact that he ALSO met with Mark. What's that tell you? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggold Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I actually think the problem here is that the US chose to meet the ex PM which quite honestly was an incredibly stupid diplomatic error no matter how you look at it, they said in a statement they were not taking sides but this very meeting tells a different story. It is well understood that the US must take a certain position when it comes to its stance on democracy but they also must recognise that Thailands solution to a growing political implosion and removal of a very obviously defunct administration has been the most peaceful and effective in recent global history, it is also worth mentioning that the current effort by all concerned seems like a genuine effort to produce a solid base for a future sustainable democracy in the not to distant future. The recent US interference could have put the current stability at considerable risk and was therefore IMO an error, martial law is a draconian environment by any standards but perhaps a necessity in this instance while the reform process continues to conclusion without interference, it is also worth noting that certain factions were offered but refused to take part, it is easy to see the usual dogs biting at the heels with every opportunity - it is unfortunate but unavoidable that the mechanism to silence them needs to stay in place and so it should. The PM's and NLA's reaction was not correct either, make a statement disagree and move along - done and dusted If at the end of the process and a referendum and elections do not take place then that is a totally different ball game and the US would have every right to get involved along with other western countries - but for now they need to butt out and keep their diplomats under strict control and allow this process to run its course unabated. it is also worth mentioning that the current effort by all concerned seems like a genuine effort to produce a solid base for a future sustainable democracy in the not to distant future. What total rubbish. This isn't about democracy and never was. The same clowns will be standing for election if and when! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnie Brasco Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Didn't Mr Russel was just telling the truth and called for a return to normality? Their reactions is a clear indicator that they are very well aware that the coup was unlawful and that the momentary situation in Thailand is against all democratic standards. But it is the Thai way. Never listen and threaten the ones who dare to tell the truth. The funny thing is, they could actually have agreed with him and said ,"yes, we know its not perfect, but we are working through the issues". But no. They throw a tizzy. Its time for a few of these children to be put in the corner to wear the dunces cap. Honestly, the embassies should keep on at them, they obviously have them all up tight. Tease them mercilessly. How do you post "democracy for dummies" to the NLA. Maybe the US will give them something to think about by re-calling the Charge to the State Dept for ' urgent discussions on the situation '.Forget a reduced presence at Cobra Gold, try not appropriate to take part in the current climate. The problem is will anything get through to the circus ? You mean a "rook move" to just suspend Cobra Gold ? Really ? Have you even thought this through ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Keep going Thailand and alienate Thailand from the rest of the western world. Better to focus on making friends on the international platform, you will need them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kooweerup Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 The arrogance is unbelievable. But that's what you get with a legislature and cabinet full of handpicked military "friends" with little to no experience in governance and diplomacy. I know some posters have mentioned N Korea and while Thailand is a long way off, I certainly feel it is inching closer day by day. You are right in that "The arrogance is unbelievable".....just talking about the wrong country. Or its is about you too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLing Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 What's all this fuffing around with summons, do the right thing right from the start.Declare all of the US administration "persons non grata", well best is just declareall Americans "persons non grata". Suppose the EU commented on Thailand's politicalachievements too, so same, declare all EU citizens "persons non grata".Didn't the UN commented on our "New Government" too, OK, withdraw all Thai stafffrom the UN and associated InstitutionsSo, who's left who didn't mention anything about Thailand's "Government" ?Nigeria, North Korea, Cuba and me? OK give'em a Thai Privilege card and somediscount vouchers for the ping pong shows. Sure that would boost economy, tourism and international understanding and recognition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Didn't Mr Russel was just telling the truth and called for a return to normality? Their reactions is a clear indicator that they are very well aware that the coup was unlawful and that the momentary situation in Thailand is against all democratic standards. But it is the Thai way. Never listen and threaten the ones who dare to tell the truth. The funny thing is, they could actually have agreed with him and said ,"yes, we know its not perfect, but we are working through the issues". But no. They throw a tizzy. Its time for a few of these children to be put in the corner to wear the dunces cap. Honestly, the embassies should keep on at them, they obviously have them all up tight. Tease them mercilessly. How do you post "democracy for dummies" to the NLA. Maybe the US will give them something to think about by re-calling the Charge to the State Dept for ' urgent discussions on the situation '.Forget a reduced presence at Cobra Gold, try not appropriate to take part in the current climate. The problem is will anything get through to the circus ? You mean a "rook move" to just suspend Cobra Gold ? Really ? Have you even thought this through ? Not suspend but dangle the hint out there, common ' diplomatic ' practice. Nations do say things they have little intention of doing but don't mind marking cards. Anyway with so many nations supposedly involved it could still go ahead but hardly worthwhile without the US input. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerbri Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Experiencing "Thainess" do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Didn't Mr Russel was just telling the truth and called for a return to normality? Their reactions is a clear indicator that they are very well aware that the coup was unlawful and that the momentary situation in Thailand is against all democratic standards. But it is the Thai way. Never listen and threaten the ones who dare to tell the truth. can you please explain what you consider as normality because as I remember it before the intervention last year Thailand was far from normal and heading down the s*h*I*t*t*e*r fast I know exactly what my choice would be between (as you call it) Normality and the current situation - it's a no brainer - and that means even if you don't have too much upstairs the right choice shouldn't be much of a challenge although after reading some of the posts on this thread I'm honestly not so sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggold Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 The USA upsetting yet another of it's allies with their interference of political matters. Obama is helping America become less relevant to the world. America on the descendants China ascending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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