chiangrai Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 I've got Windows 8.1 which came with McAfee antivirus already installed. Should I leave it there or is there a better Antivirus. Is it best to use a free program or spend some money and buy a program. I'm using a 10 inch laptop mostly on my personal internet conection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canopus1969 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Use the built in Windows AV ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 I use WIndows Defender and free Malwarebytes Antimalware and Antiexploit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiangrai Posted February 2, 2015 Author Share Posted February 2, 2015 I see the windows defender so that looks like the easyest. Just out of interest how are these better than McKafee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTee Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Most AntiVirus is a pile of sheet. Mcaffee spot 41% of recent viruses.. https://threatcenter.crdf.fr/?StatsChicog has the right idea.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiangrai Posted February 2, 2015 Author Share Posted February 2, 2015 O.k,I will go with Chicog's advice. So any advice on how to go about it. Do I activate the 3 prograns and then delete Mckafee or is there any thig I should know before I start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCor Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 O.k,I will go with Chicog's advice. So any advice on how to go about it. Do I activate the 3 prograns and then delete Mckafee or is there any thig I should know before I start. If you plan to swap to another AV vendor, the normal approach is to: download the installer from the new software go OFFLINE (disable/disconnect from the Internet) uninstall the old AV vendor software reboot make sure you are still OFFLINE install the new AV vendor software reboot go ONLINE and check for New AV vendor update do a COMPLETE DISK(s) scan run the other programs (if you use the free versions) and do a complete disk review, or install the pay versions, do one complete disk review, then set them set to automatic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiangrai Posted February 2, 2015 Author Share Posted February 2, 2015 O.k guys, I've got the defender turned on and the other two programs installed and doing scans. Nearly there........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiangrai Posted February 3, 2015 Author Share Posted February 3, 2015 O.k, I've got everything installed... Do I need to set any of these to run on startup in the task manager At the moment only malwarebytes anti exploit is showing on startup Defender and anti malware are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCor Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Take a look in the Setting section for each program. The authors usually reserve 'on startup' for the premium versions, ad the Free versions usually require you to initiate the scans (so no auto on-startup options). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiangrai Posted February 3, 2015 Author Share Posted February 3, 2015 Windows Defender seems to be turned on. Anti-explois is in the startup folder and it says runing when I open the program but it has no settings button. Anti-malware has lots of settings,in advanced settings it says start with windows. It also has an option to set scedualed scans. Basicaly,my question is....am I protected. Thanks for all the help so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angiolo Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 f you the best then download PANDA. I swear by this antivirus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) I use WIndows Defender and free Malwarebytes Antimalware and Antiexploit. I use Windows Defender, Kaspersky 2015, Malwarebyte, AVG Tune up 2015 for the other tasks and I'm really more than satisfied. Once you've got your system optimized, ( try UninStaller pro to get rid off all junk, etc.) then a full scan and create a back up with Acronis. True Image. Should anything happen, you'll have your system back where it was in about 25 minutes, depending on how many programs you're running. I hope you can swim in the Bay well enough not to drown immediately. P.S. I was never impressed with Mc Affee at all. Edited February 3, 2015 by lostinisaan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Most AntiVirus is a pile of sheet. Mcaffee spot 41% of recent viruses.. https://threatcenter.crdf.fr/?Stats Chicog has the right idea.. Kinda surprised to see Windows Defender fair so well "in comparison" to all the other anti-virus products. Guess Microsoft does put some real effort in keeping Defender and probably Microsoft Security Essentials up to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinity11 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) Call me old fashion and maybe i am at risk but ms defender requires you to keep windows autoupdate ON. I guess most people don't mind that, but i find it interfering. The free antivrus programs seem to be getting worse not better and getting larger, giving you less control on your system, hogging resources and not catching anything suspicious. Some programs put processes in and on that you can not turn off, or if you do, cant turn back on. After MUCH research i am still unsure what are the best programs without their own malware or adware, either free or for a cost. But yes i use multiple apps like others here. Edited February 15, 2015 by infinity11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinity11 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I used to like avira because it was very sensitive and gave many false positives, go figure. But all of the programs change, avast used to suck big time but is much better now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) Call me old fashion and maybe i am at risk but ms defender requires you to keep windows autoupdate ON. That's because updates to the program and definitions are delivered by WU. If you want to do it manually, change the settings. Interestingly, I read an article today that mentions how useless AV software is, and it mentioned the iGuardian that I backed on Kickstarter a while back, among others. http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/decrypt-one-box-rule/ https://nodal.net/numa/ http://www.pcworld.com/article/2852252/bitdefender-security-appliance-for-home-networks-seeks-to-replace-endpoint-antivirus.html https://itusnetworks.com/ Edited February 15, 2015 by Chicog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooked Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Herd protect plus Panda cloud scanner. Windows defender is an obvious. Mcaffee has become useless and interfered with my last computer. All these programs change in usefulness from year to year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 An off topic post about Linux has been removed as well as the replies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyUK1960 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 When I got my new computer first thing I Uninstalled was McAfee. I just use Windows Defender and Malwarebyte. My HP computer comes with automatic tune up. I never liked Norton or McAfree. Got Windows 8.1 with touch screen desk top and its fantastic. I use IE10 , Chrome & Firefox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Given that Kaspersky is the only vendor really out there discovering the BIG exploits, and are clearly not being influenced by certain big security agencies, they should probably be at the top of your list. Outside of that, Malwarebytes gets a very strong recommendation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiangrai Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share Posted February 19, 2015 So I have installed Malwarebytes anti Malware ,Malwarebytes Anti Exploits and turned on windows defender. Now I am getting little notices in the top right hand corner saying that my trial period has run out and that I am no longer protectrd. I can't remember if it was Malware anti exploit or anti malware that sent the messages but does anybody know what I should do about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 So I have installed Malwarebytes anti Malware ,Malwarebytes Anti Exploits and turned on windows defender. Now I am getting little notices in the top right hand corner saying that my trial period has run out and that I am no longer protectrd. I can't remember if it was Malware anti exploit or anti malware that sent the messages but does anybody know what I should do about them. Click the "buy" button? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiangrai Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 But seriously .............am I protected. They keep sending me messages sayig I'm not covered. Is this just a sales pitch and the free version is fine or am I really not protected. I would really love to know........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCor Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Who is 'they'? Some of the programs you've installed probably are the type that have several 'tiers' or modes of operation. Anywhere from... Manual Mode (no automatic operations, nor automatic protection) -- licence: free for personal use Automatic Mode (launched at startup, automatic protection and update) -- licence: one time fee Full Automatic Protection (launched at startup, automatic protection, extended coverage and features, quick updates -- licence: ongoing fee Tell us what programs are nagging you, and what they're saying to make you question your protection status? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiangrai Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 Malwarebytes Anti Malware is saying that my free trail has expired and that I am not protected. Malwarebytes antiExploit is saying that my free trial is over and that the program is running. Anti Malware is the one sending the messages,Anti Exploit isn't sending me any messages. I presume that all I have to do is to set these programs to "don't show icon or messages" in the taskbar and the programs will run the free version which is good enough for what I'm doing on my notebook. I just want to be absolutly sure before I set and forget. I don't mind having to pay 20USD or so to purchase a program Thanks for all the help so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCor Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 To understand what you have, it's best to take a look at the vendor product feature list Malwarebytes Anti-Malware (free) vs Anti-Malware PREMIUM Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit Free vs Anti-Exploit PREMIUM The 'free' version came with a 14-day trial of PREMIUM. If you can live without the PREMIUM feature on each product then you're good. FREE products usually don't automatically check for new updates, nor do they auto-download and install, so it's best to verify what each product does and doesn't do, or how it's kept up to day. If you go with the FREE version and regularly and consistently check for and download updates, while also regularly and consistently making/managing FULL SYSTEM BACKUP of your system with the COPIES KEPT OFFLINE then you should be fine. I think that's the way most professionals would do it. The rest of the folks who don't like to read manuals of keep up with changes in security probably would be better off going the PREMIUM route, and keeping an ear out for changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiangrai Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 O.k, Now I understand Thanks RichCor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I use Windows Defender, Kaspersky 2015, -snip- You're using a Russian company called Kaspersky to protect your computer. Oh Kaaaaay. I use a Russian company to protect my house. It's called Kalashnikov, LOL. </joking> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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