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REFORM
Govt urged to delay public assembly law enactment
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- The Law Reform Commission urged the government delay the planned enactment of the public assembly law.

In the letter to the prime minister, House Speaker and chairman of the National Reform Council, LRC chairman Kanit Na-Nakhon said that the law can wait until Thailand has a new Constitution. The Constitution will indicate the scope of freedom of individuals in public assembly. The law also requires free public opinion.

"The LRC considers the draft law approved by the Cabinet on November 18, 2014 is illegitimate and contains excessive infringement against individual freedom," Kanit said.

He furthered that the draft contained a clause limiting freedom of public assembly, which contradicts the freedom guaranteed by the interim Constitution. Meanwhile, barring public assembly within 150-metre radius of Parliament Building and Government House does not correspond with public wishes for attention from the administrative and legislative branches.

LRC also opposed the clause that public assembly organisers are liable to criminal charges, if they are not involved with criminal actions specified under the Criminal Code. Each person must be responsible for their own actions, it said.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Govt-urged-to-delay-public-assembly-law-enactment-30253307.html


-- The Nation 2015-02-04

[chainarong]

The words infringement of freedom is being bandied about like it was a way of life in Thailand , never the less it appears someone remembers what the word freedom actually stand for ,because under the Junta rules of engagement any discontent with the ruling elite will be meet with the short end of the big stick, Prayut - O must remember , much against he's upbringing , that in a Democracy the people are the bosses of the Politicians and they have every right to voice their opinions and to protest.

[thesetat2013]

The LRC wants to make so that an assembly can disrupt daily governmental operations with their complaint here. 150 meters is close enough to make a point without infringing on space used to get to work and back by gov workers.

They also want to make each individual responsible for any criminal acts yet in the past it was shown that most of the people who broke the law were indirectly led to doing their deed by the leaders and spokespeople. Hence, the little guy who thought he was doing the right thing gets in trouble and the mastermind gets off.

They need to make these leaders responsible for what they entice their followers to do. The leaders push the anger to the point then they suggest illegal actions be taken. You get someone riled enough and convince them they are right to do something bad then you are as guilty as they are, especially with the feeble minded locals these leaders immigrate from other provinces.

They should also make any group apply for a permit to have a gathering in a specified area and ensure criminal liability if they extend or exceed their registered area with unexpected marches and movements.

Thus ensuring that these people can not assemble beyond a certain point.

Allowing freedom of speech and freedom or expression does not mean they must do it on the front lawn of the gov house. There need to be limits set.

[oneday]

The Law Reform Commission urged the government delay the planned enactment of the public assembly law.

In the letter to the prime minister, House Speaker and chairman of the National Reform Council, LRC chairman Kanit Na-Nakhon said that the law can wait until Thailand has a new Constitution.

So we have the NRC, the NACC, the NLA and the CDC. Can everyone keep these straight?

NACC - root out corruption, but they seem to get their fingers into other pies.

NRC - Not sure what their role it. Reform the country? Reform law? Reform police?

NLA - New interim government hand picked by the Junta.

CDC - Supposed to be writing a new constitution.

Aren't they all part and partial of the same military Bangkok elite running the country now. So do we really have an NRC member dissenting against "the government"? So who is "the government" that is trying to make these laws that have nothing to do with reforming the country and moving towards an election?

[heybruce]

"He furthered that the draft contained a clause limiting freedom of public assembly, which contradicts the freedom guaranteed by the interim Constitution. Meanwhile, barring public assembly within 150-metre radius of Parliament Building and Government House does not correspond with public wishes for attention from the administrative and legislative branches."

The junta was happy to take advantage of Suthep's protest to seize power, but wants to make sure it won't happen again while they're in charge.

[rubl]

""The LRC considers the draft law approved by the Cabinet on November 18, 2014 is illegitimate and contains excessive infringement against individual freedom," Kanit said."

If the draft law is illegitimate it doesn't really matter what it contains, I would think. Pity there's no explanation why the LRC considers the draft law illegitimate. The comment on "excessive infringement" may well be true but doesn't make the law illegitimate.

BTW if illegitimate why urge to delay enactment only?

Edited February 4, 2015 by rubl

[CUNJU]

Yes allow the protesters to block roads and burn buildings and bomb their opponents!! What sense is this Guy trying to make?? Oh Yeah probably A Taksin follower!

[rickirs]

"barring public assembly within 150-metre radius of Parliament Building and Government House"

Yet, the military refused to help enforce the constitutional State of Emergency declared by the Yingluck regime to clear blocked highways, streets, and occuppied government facilities. The military had no concern when Suthep and company OCCUPPIED Government House and called it "his" government house.

I see the NCPO insisting this bill be enacted before the constitution is finished as it will be crucial for maintaining "national security" (for itself and its designated government). The NCPO doesn't really need NLA to pass sucha bill as under Article 44 of the Interim Charter, the NCPO can merely issue a directive that will have the force of law. But the facade of an "independent" legislative body approving the bill is apparently an important aspect of the Junta's leaderdhip style.

[bill1369]

Is there a surprise in all of this?

[chainarong]

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The LRC wants to make so that an assembly can disrupt daily governmental operations with their complaint here. 150 meters is close enough to make a point without infringing on space used to get to work and back by gov workers.
They also want to make each individual responsible for any criminal acts yet in the past it was shown that most of the people who broke the law were indirectly led to doing their deed by the leaders and spokespeople. Hence, the little guy who thought he was doing the right thing gets in trouble and the mastermind gets off.
They need to make these leaders responsible for what they entice their followers to do. The leaders push the anger to the point then they suggest illegal actions be taken. You get someone riled enough and convince them they are right to do something bad then you are as guilty as they are, especially with the feeble minded locals these leaders immigrate from other provinces.
They should also make any group apply for a permit to have a gathering in a specified area and ensure criminal liability if they extend or exceed their registered area with unexpected marches and movements.
Thus ensuring that these people can not assemble beyond a certain point.
Allowing freedom of speech and freedom or expression does not mean they must do it on the front lawn of the gov house. There need to be limits set.

In a democracy there are always limits set and the Police generally arrest those thugs that try to go outside the law and if Thai Authorities in all cases that turn to sh!!t had acted immedialtly there possibly wouldn't have been the problems and maybe not even a Coup , can you imagine the case of that red shirt protest and the burning of a city block happening in the West .