(Wife) Need to buy a gun (registered)

[maynard420]

my wife needs a gun to protect her self

you tourists have no idea , what is going on in here ......

If your wife needs a gun for protection then you know it is time to move somewhere else in Thailand or back in your home country.

And buying a gun is easy, it is really expensive, we pains 90,000 for a Sig Sauer P2000SK, compact concealed .40, my wife also has her concealed carry permit and she can have it on her person at anytime, she never does unless we are on a long road trip, it will work on mean dogs or snakes, any kind of threat.

Good luck bro.

[mitsubishi]

You can't use that gun if it's registered to your wife. It is for one person only. You would have to go through the process yourself. So don't be caught shooting it, especially at a criminal if you don't have the license. Yes a farang can get a license.

Only if he's a permanent resident of citizen of Thailand can a farang get the license. Maybe if a hefty six-figure bribe changed hands an Amphur many make an exception.

[pnustedt]

I purchased a gun a few years ago - the procedure which UKChatterbox described (#27) is correct. You do not need to notify the police. I have approval to carry the weapon but would not carry it in town. I understand things have become more difficult in recent years and permits are not so readily granted nowadays. If you carry the gun with you it should not be loaded.

[arjunadawn]

Possessing a gun grants increased confidence; for sure. When confidence is increased and not matched with experience or awareness, bad things can happen- really. I would hope this was a choice for the home, and that you intend considerable training, and target practice. Makes no sense to have a weapon if she can't employ it under duress. The times she will need it will never look like a day at the range. Weapons carry is considerably different than static use in the home.

She needs to know malfunction drills, reloads, weapon care, night fire, day fire, etc. These really are the min things you should do for your wife if you are determined to do this. Also, if you do not know these skills you should equally train, irrespective of who is the primary carry. I have trained others in weapons all my life. I applaud your idea but caution that possession needs to really marry with competence or she becomes, perhaps, more vulnerable.

[Vogele123]

The police offer was, I feel confident, an under the table deal. Don't buy from him. Every time he needs cash he will be back to see you, as the gun will be illegal, you will have to pay up.

I'm not sure about the Internet shop deal but its probably under the table too. The lower price would be because it's an old, much used gun and possibly used in previous crimes.

The correct procedure is to obtain the permit first and then buy a new gun from a dealer or a secondhand gun from a registered owner or dealer. The new gun is preferable every time.

To obtain a permit your wife must satisfy the head of the local government office I can't recall the exact title) that a need exists. For example ... a gold shop owner or someone that for some professional reason needs to have large sums of cash with them after the banks have closed, say perhaps a car dealer.

I'm sure that you understand that a "spot of oiling the wheels" is still necessary. No amount of extra oiling will get you a permit if your need can't be proven. It's going to cost you 1 to 200,000 ฿ to get the legal gun into your hand.

Your stated need for a gun is not sufficient in my mind and I don't think it will work. Having a permit for a gun does not entitle you to shoot in a public place. Using a gun as a threatening (self defence) device is risky. If you point the thing at a bad guy you have to be prepared to use it ... Or he could simply take it off you.

Save your cash and freedom by giving up the idea, it's a bad one.

Some BS in your post.

Need for a gun can be varied. I want to target shoot, I want to collect guns, I want to protect my self from criminal-burglar / home-invader etc etc.

Unless your wife has a criminal record you're good to go. No need for bribes but slow if without them.

Some beautiful areas of Thailand tend to have lawless low-lives in them and if you are a farang you are an instant mark for crime if you aren't careful. You city-types have no idea.

I want to get a gun here too, but I cannot find any regulations about where and when you are allowed to use it.

My primary reason is just for target shooting, rats, vermin etc. on our piece of land. Unless however I can find out if it is legal to use on your own property I will probably not bother.

We have a decent size chunk of land, pretty rural, about 20 rai. Does anyone know what the laws are for shooting on your own property? I can't seem to find anything about it here. I know you used to be able to shoot on private land in the UK providing it was on farmland or similar and not within 50 yards of a public road.

Cheers

[thaipod]

Unlikely due to the country is under military rule withMarshall Law in place. They have been conviscating firearms and at this time to purchase a hand gun is very difficult unless you have contacts with the police or military ranked personnal.

[shaurene]

I really do not believe you are asking this, you must be crazy. If you or your wife pulls a gun on any of them they will wait for the right time and the 2 of you are goners.

First thing I would do is pack my bag from your area.

Go to the police station and ask is it possible and what she needs to do. That police guy can get one for you under the counter.

Or ask a lawyer on ThaiVisa. You will just get a load of crap asking the guys on ThaiVisa.

[how241]

Please and kindly , has anyone bought a gun in thailand ?

no questions please , just response if you have the experience

thanks a lot

appreciated

Sometimes it is hard to get a straight answer here without everyone jumping all over you. Good luck.

[Ejnar]

Ohh my G.. More guns are no solution to anything...

[monkey4u]

my wife needs a gun to protect her self

you tourists have no idea , what is going on in here ......

What a load of <deleted>

NO NORMAL person needs a gun here for protection

Just don't mix with the retards where you live

[RigPig]

It is as easy as 1,2,3 to solve this problem:

(1) Open suitcase

(2) Fill suitcase

(3) Call taxi

Been there, done that, and it worked very well indeed.

I even learned to never create another situation in my life where this conversation would be had.

Move on, and never look back.

Yep you only get a sore neck anyway.

Trust me if you can´t afford to leave, you can´t afford a gun and putting it in the hands of a Thai women is insanity at it´s finest. It is only good inside your house anyway, there are other means of dealing with intruders inside your house.

You need a special permit to carry outside the house which, unless you are going to the gun club, is all but impossible to get.

[thailand49]

I will answer Yes I have a number of guns and I do for a number of reasons. But none of them are for my wife nor for any Thai, gang, etc..ask yourself does your wife have the fortitude to use one and do you? What are you going to do everyone in your soi, owning a gun is great but in your situation the solution is now having one. The solution is MOVE! I can see you will not like the answer but get a grip on reality!

[Rooo]

I have done a mass cleaning of the topic, several off topic, insulting, nonsensical posts removed.

[Donnie Brasco]

I was raised with firearms.

My first gun was a pump action 12.

Over the years I acquired the usual rifles and two more shotguns.

I bought several pistols at another point in my life.

In the Old Country, the first thing you learn about pistols (after you discover just how inexpensive the regular service pieces are) is how much training it takes to hit anything at medium range.

It took me about 2500 cheap target rounds to become confident about hitting center mass.

Some thoughts here . . . . .

Most armed law enforcement officers practice a couple of times a month . . . . . . at first. Then they get complacent.

You have to practice and keep on practicing or you get sloppy with your sequencing and you get lazy with your aim.

Cops know that Western criminals rarely have the time, inclination, funds or training to become competant with their handguns.

If you have the kind of money and the drag it takes to be a gun owner in Thailand you should use that money to leave the circumstances that are prompting you to arm yourself.

Purchasing a handgun either for your wife or through your wife in Pattaya is not a wise plan.

Move.

[gyrosman]

Sorry, are you insane?, giving a Thai woman a firearm and you live with her, your're a brave soul.

[Beetlejuice]

my wife needs a gun to protect her self

you tourists have no idea , what is going on in here ......

Are you for real?

People like you who are plonking themselves in Thailand scare me. The only consolation about your case is that you and your wife live well out of the way. The more remote you stay, the better and safer for all of us.

[Andre0720]

(Wife) need to buy a gun...

Please change that to:

(Wife) WANTS to buy a gun...

[DinoSabanovic]

Why not just buy BB gun? Seriously, full metal body and good quality look almost the same as real one, it is legal and hurt like hell when fired on someone for defense.

[mitsubishi]

I guess if the other guy has one it won't matter how much of a brave man you are then?

The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun, is a GOOD guy / gal with a gun!

[mitsubishi]

Why not just buy BB gun? Seriously, full metal body and good quality look almost the same as real one, it is legal and hurt like hell when fired on someone for defense.

That's not a bad option. You need the parts changed out to accept metal bbs. The rubber mag-seals can perish and leak out air over time.

Not a bad option and a lot more affordable.

I left mine with a friend and some thai low-life came and pinched it!

[louse1953]

my wife needs a gun to protect her self

you tourists have no idea , what is going on in here ......

5555,they'll grab it off her and drop her on the spot,you too,if your there.You wouldn't be a yank by any chance?

[Nemesis7]

Ask her get a gun license first and once she has the license she can buy gun from any arms store. And price ranges from as low as 15000 Bhat onwards .

[billphillips]

The police offer was, I feel confident, an under the table deal. Don't buy from him. Every time he needs cash he will be back to see you, as the gun will be illegal, you will have to pay up.

I'm not sure about the Internet shop deal but its probably under the table too. The lower price would be because it's an old, much used gun and possibly used in previous crimes.

The correct procedure is to obtain the permit first and then buy a new gun from a dealer or a secondhand gun from a registered owner or dealer. The new gun is preferable every time.

To obtain a permit your wife must satisfy the head of the local government office I can't recall the exact title) that a need exists. For example ... a gold shop owner or someone that for some professional reason needs to have large sums of cash with them after the banks have closed, say perhaps a car dealer.

I'm sure that you understand that a "spot of oiling the wheels" is still necessary. No amount of extra oiling will get you a permit if your need can't be proven. It's going to cost you 1 to 200,000 ฿ to get the legal gun into your hand.

Your stated need for a gun is not sufficient in my mind and I don't think it will work. Having a permit for a gun does not entitle you to shoot in a public place. Using a gun as a threatening (self defence) device is risky. If you point the thing at a bad guy you have to be prepared to use it ... Or he could simply take it off you.

Save your cash and freedom by giving up the idea, it's a bad one.

Some BS in your post.

Need for a gun can be varied. I want to target shoot, I want to collect guns, I want to protect my self from criminal-burglar / home-invader etc etc.

Unless your wife has a criminal record you're good to go. No need for bribes but slow if without them.

Some beautiful areas of Thailand tend to have lawless low-lives in them and if you are a farang you are an instant mark for crime if you aren't careful. You city-types have no idea.

No bullshit intended. A permit to collect guns, target shoot or protect your home does not permit carrying the gun in public as a concealed weapon for personal protection.

I hope that clears things up for you.

[DLock]

A lot of nonsense on here.

If your wife can show a legitimate need for a gun, has no criminal record, then she can apply at the Amphur for consideration. If she is granted a license, a Gunshop is the ONLY place she should buy a gun, get registered correctly and get legal paperwork. Then, it's always worth visiting the local police, showing them the permit, gun and paperwork. They can be very helpful, and it does not hurt for them to know you have a weapon.

Getting a concealed carry license is almost impossible for any normal Thai, and Foreigners cannot get a conceal carry license. No exceptions.

You can transport you gun in the car to go to shooting range and back, but it MUST be in a locked box in the trunk and NOT stored with the ammunition, which must be in a separate locked box in the trunk of the car. It cannot be carried inside the car for any other reason.

My wife has 2 guns. She is well trained. I have been around guns most of my adult life as well.

Unless you have a REALLY good reason to have a gun, do not get one. A Thai lady with a gun, that is not really well trained on how to load, unload and shoot safely is probably more dangerous than anything in your street.

Otherwise, buy a plastic pellet gun...

[LukKrueng]

Lots of misinformation and plenty of BS in the replies...

Only 2 posts give partial good info...

The procedure is simple. You need to apply for a permit to purchase a weapon. The easiest and most convenient way would be to go through a weapon shop. The have the forms and the knowhow. This part would cost between 4,000-10,000 and will take anything from 2 weeks to 6 months to complete. Once you have the permit to buy, you shop around for the weapon of your choice. 2 remarks about that permit: 1. The permit specifies whether you are to buy the weapon from a private person OR a shop, and 2. the permit is caliber specific (both are according to what you have requested on the application, so if you wrote you want a 9mm pistol to be bought from a shop in BKK - you can buy any 9mm pistol from any legal gun dealer in BKK ONLY)

Once you buy the gun, the dealer notes the gun's details on the permit, and takes it to be authorized as the specific gun's permit.

The permit is to OWN a gun, not to carry it, meaning the gun should be kept at either your registered residenc or you business place - which ever you have applied for.

If you take the gun to a shooting range (and farangs CAN use the military one near the grand palace!! actually any tourist can go there and shoot any of the weapons they hold there for rent!!) the gun must NOT be loaded, and the ammunition must be kept in a separate part of the vehicle (if the gun is in the glove box, the ammo should be kept in the boot. When you carry the gun between home/office and the car, and from the car to the shooting range, the gun must NOT be in your body (concealed or not) but in a beg.

If you wish to have a carrying permit, it's a totally different story, much more expensive and complicated, and under the current marshal law not possible to apply for, unless you live in one of the 3 dangerous southern provinces. Even if you do get the carrying permit, apart from the permit being province specific (if you have a permit to carry the gun in BKK province, you are NOT allowed to carry it in Chonburi..), the same rules of unloaded weapon and NOT on your person apply.

The whole process has nothing to do with the police, the tesaban, the amphur or high ranking official/important people you or your wife know...

Now - all that said, I must agree with many or the replies saying that if your place of living is infested with gun holding criminals, your best option (I'd even say ONLY option) is to move out. Whatever it is you might lose by leaving that place can't be worth risking your life for. Owning a gun might be fun when you go to shooting range, but in real life danger situation without proper training and very long practice the gun might put you in greater risk!!

[Afook]

if you're going to have to pay to own a gun here legally, and it's a few 100,000 B's, it would be better to just move away to a safer area.......guns are for killing in self defense, otherwise you'd end up the victim........makes more sense to move to a better/safer area.. I was former gun owner in the US, over 40 guns.......a bit different here in another country!

[frank0424]

TOO MANY SERIAL KILLERS IN YOUR AREA???!!!

Report them to the Police!!!

This guy wants to buy a gun with the intention of shooting someone.

Get out and go back to where you came from!!!

Or you might have paranoid schizophrenia

Edited February 6, 2015 by frank0424

[Beetlejuice]

[mitsubishi]

The police offer was, I feel confident, an under the table deal. Don't buy from him. Every time he needs cash he will be back to see you, as the gun will be illegal, you will have to pay up.

I'm not sure about the Internet shop deal but its probably under the table too. The lower price would be because it's an old, much used gun and possibly used in previous crimes.

The correct procedure is to obtain the permit first and then buy a new gun from a dealer or a secondhand gun from a registered owner or dealer. The new gun is preferable every time.

To obtain a permit your wife must satisfy the head of the local government office I can't recall the exact title) that a need exists. For example ... a gold shop owner or someone that for some professional reason needs to have large sums of cash with them after the banks have closed, say perhaps a car dealer.

I'm sure that you understand that a "spot of oiling the wheels" is still necessary. No amount of extra oiling will get you a permit if your need can't be proven. It's going to cost you 1 to 200,000 ฿ to get the legal gun into your hand.

Your stated need for a gun is not sufficient in my mind and I don't think it will work. Having a permit for a gun does not entitle you to shoot in a public place. Using a gun as a threatening (self defence) device is risky. If you point the thing at a bad guy you have to be prepared to use it ... Or he could simply take it off you.

Save your cash and freedom by giving up the idea, it's a bad one.

Some BS in your post.

Need for a gun can be varied. I want to target shoot, I want to collect guns, I want to protect my self from criminal-burglar / home-invader etc etc.

Unless your wife has a criminal record you're good to go. No need for bribes but slow if without them.

Some beautiful areas of Thailand tend to have lawless low-lives in them and if you are a farang you are an instant mark for crime if you aren't careful. You city-types have no idea.

No bullshit intended. A permit to collect guns, target shoot or protect your home does not permit carrying the gun in public as a concealed weapon for personal protection.

I hope that clears things up for you.

This is Thailand, not New York State or New Jersey. The permit for transport is what Thais use to carry it around in their trucks. If going out shopping you DON'T leave the gun in the truck in case it's stolen. This is how you carry the weapon. For the range yes that too of course. Magazine in pocket and unloaded firearm concealed in bag, under jacket etc. It doesn't take long to stick a magazine in if things get hairy.

That should clarify things for you too!

[srn89]

I can only speak from personal experience, my wife has a Shotgun ( 5 shot pump action ) she obtained a License from our local Amphur Office without any problems cost if i remember correctly was 125 Baht

We have 2 Rai fully walled land, we were advised to purchase a gun by a long time policeman friend who said that certain people were coming across the border to do their nasties and then disappear.

Maybe times have changed a bit regarding regulations so good luck.