sound proofing with cylence?

[jacky54]

This is a product from Siam cement, they also have one called zoundblock, not sure what the difference is or the prices. They are sold in home mart but have not see it in home pro or home works. I wondered if anybody had used it and what they thought about it's effectiveness. Our house has a poor grey block party wall that is not much better for sound insulation than plasterboard, so we are looking to improve it.

[IMHO]

This stuff is really expensive - like 10x more per sheet over standard gypsum. Is there any way you could renovate, adding a 2nd brick wall? - i.e. making a cavity wall? That would work even better, and probably cost less/same.

[dragonfly94]

This stuff is really expensive - like 10x more per sheet over standard gypsum. Is there any way you could renovate, adding a 2nd brick wall? - i.e. making a cavity wall? That would work even better, and probably cost less/same.

Did a 2nd wall downstairs but they did not build it properly-agreed to leave a cavity but did not. This other wall is upstairs and not sure if the structure would take another load of brick at about 600 kilos. The house is new and the usual concrete post and beam construct

[IMHO]

This stuff is really expensive - like 10x more per sheet over standard gypsum. Is there any way you could renovate, adding a 2nd brick wall? - i.e. making a cavity wall? That would work even better, and probably cost less/same.

Did a 2nd wall downstairs but they did not build it properly-agreed to leave a cavity but did not. This other wall is upstairs and not sure if the structure would take another load of brick at about 600 kilos. The house is new and the usual concrete post and beam construct

Assuming your house has "standard" 20cm wide x 40-80cm high beams, and is currently using a single course of block/brick with a rendered width of 10cm, there should be absolutely no problems with adding a second a course.

[jacky54]

I'll ask the builder, what worries me is the poor build quality and cut corners

[casualbiker]

What about using insulated gypsum board.. that's not so expensive, is it?

[IMHO]

What about using insulated gypsum board.. that's not so expensive, is it?

Not sure exactly which one you're talking about, but can tell you the 59mm Gyproc Thermaline is around 1000 Baht/sheet. Standard 9mm board is around 160/sheet.

[dragonfly94]

What about using insulated gypsum board.. that's not so expensive, is it?

Not sure exactly which one you're talking about, but can tell you the 59mm Gyproc Thermaline is around 1000 Baht/sheet. Standard 9mm board is around 160/sheet.

I used this stuff in the UK 10 years back to insulate a semi, even with 2x plasterboard on top the results were not worth the money spent on it, did not reduce the sound by very much.

[casualbiker]

What about using insulated gypsum board.. that's not so expensive, is it?

Not sure exactly which one you're talking about, but can tell you the 59mm Gyproc Thermaline is around 1000 Baht/sheet. Standard 9mm board is around 160/sheet.

Far enough .. I remember less than 500b but it was probably the smaller thickness. Also to be fair it's more a heat blocker than sound as it's not very dense.. I presume the Zoundblock does both?

[JDGRUEN]

Use AAC block for a second wall. You can get different thicknesses. Autoclaved Aerated Concrete blocks - the manufacturing process makes a solid very light weight block with a zillion tiny air pockets inside. Great for sound reduction especially if you created an air cavity between the walls. The AAC blocks weigh about 60% less than standard concrete blocks ... you can put them together with Thin Set 'glue" (cement designed for laying ceramic tile). You finish the exposed side with plaster and paint.

AAC blocks can be sawed, drilled, routed for conduit grooves - wiring and plumbing... fire proof, insect proof and mold resistant.

AAC is made in Thailand under several brands and sold at most any construction supply store.

Do some googling and see what is says about sound proofing -- and also consider the cavity layer.

The lightweight of AAC blocks does not put too much load on floors.

Edited February 17, 2015 by JDGRUEN

[dragonfly94]

Use AAC block for a second wall. You can get different thicknesses. Autoclaved Aerated Concrete blocks - the manufacturing process makes a solid very light weight block with a zillion tiny air pockets inside. Great for sound reduction especially if you created an air cavity between the walls. The AAC blocks weigh about 60% less than standard concrete blocks ... you can put them together with Thin Set 'glue" (cement designed for laying ceramic tile). You finish the exposed side with plaster and paint.

AAC blocks can be sawed, drilled, routed for conduit grooves - wiring and plumbing... fire proof, insect proof and mold resistant.

AAC is made in Thailand under several brands and sold at most any construction supply store.

Do some googling and see what is says about sound proofing -- and also consider the cavity layer.

The lightweight of AAC blocks does not put too much load on floors.

How much did you pay per block?, this is the same as Q con which is more expensive but they are all about the same from what I read. They are a lot more than the grey hollow blocks but much better. Probably go for this, should have used it before in the kitchen, but the mrs knows best who has never owned a property in her life before!

[steve187]

prices this week for 60x20x7.5 blocks are 19 baht in homeworks and 16.5 baht in Thai watsadu = 137 baht metre

Edited February 17, 2015 by steve187

[casualbiker]

Use AAC block for a second wall. You can get different thicknesses. Autoclaved Aerated Concrete blocks - the manufacturing process makes a solid very light weight block with a zillion tiny air pockets inside. Great for sound reduction especially if you created an air cavity between the walls. The AAC blocks weigh about 60% less than standard concrete blocks ... you can put them together with Thin Set 'glue" (cement designed for laying ceramic tile). You finish the exposed side with plaster and paint.

AAC blocks can be sawed, drilled, routed for conduit grooves - wiring and plumbing... fire proof, insect proof and mold resistant.

AAC is made in Thailand under several brands and sold at most any construction supply store.

Do some googling and see what is says about sound proofing -- and also consider the cavity layer.

The lightweight of AAC blocks does not put too much load on floors.

How much did you pay per block?, this is the same as Q con which is more expensive but they are all about the same from what I read. They are a lot more than the grey hollow blocks but much better. Probably go for this, should have used it before in the kitchen, but the mrs knows best who has never owned a property in her life before!

For a kitchen the grey concrete blocks are better. If making cabinets etc. Qcon and the like are very porous, not so suitable for bathrooms etc.

If you look around 7.5cm are about 15b a block now!

[steve187]

Use AAC block for a second wall. You can get different thicknesses. Autoclaved Aerated Concrete blocks - the manufacturing process makes a solid very light weight block with a zillion tiny air pockets inside. Great for sound reduction especially if you created an air cavity between the walls. The AAC blocks weigh about 60% less than standard concrete blocks ... you can put them together with Thin Set 'glue" (cement designed for laying ceramic tile). You finish the exposed side with plaster and paint.

AAC blocks can be sawed, drilled, routed for conduit grooves - wiring and plumbing... fire proof, insect proof and mold resistant.

AAC is made in Thailand under several brands and sold at most any construction supply store.

Do some googling and see what is says about sound proofing -- and also consider the cavity layer.

The lightweight of AAC blocks does not put too much load on floors.

How much did you pay per block?, this is the same as Q con which is more expensive but they are all about the same from what I read. They are a lot more than the grey hollow blocks but much better. Probably go for this, should have used it before in the kitchen, but the mrs knows best who has never owned a property in her life before!

For a kitchen the grey concrete blocks are better. If making cabinets etc. Qcon and the like are very porous, not so suitable for bathrooms etc.

If you look around 7.5cm are about 15b a block now!

Q con do kitchen unit blocks http://qcon.co.th/product/q-con-counter/

Edited February 17, 2015 by steve187

[casualbiker]

Use AAC block for a second wall. You can get different thicknesses. Autoclaved Aerated Concrete blocks - the manufacturing process makes a solid very light weight block with a zillion tiny air pockets inside. Great for sound reduction especially if you created an air cavity between the walls. The AAC blocks weigh about 60% less than standard concrete blocks ... you can put them together with Thin Set 'glue" (cement designed for laying ceramic tile). You finish the exposed side with plaster and paint.

AAC blocks can be sawed, drilled, routed for conduit grooves - wiring and plumbing... fire proof, insect proof and mold resistant.

AAC is made in Thailand under several brands and sold at most any construction supply store.

Do some googling and see what is says about sound proofing -- and also consider the cavity layer.

The lightweight of AAC blocks does not put too much load on floors.

How much did you pay per block?, this is the same as Q con which is more expensive but they are all about the same from what I read. They are a lot more than the grey hollow blocks but much better. Probably go for this, should have used it before in the kitchen, but the mrs knows best who has never owned a property in her life before!

For a kitchen the grey concrete blocks are better. If making cabinets etc. Qcon and the like are very porous, not so suitable for bathrooms etc.

If you look around 7.5cm are about 15b a block now!

Q con do kitchen unit blocks http://qcon.co.th/product/q-con-counter/

Lovely .. thanks for that.. it looks real easy to put together!

They have been busy developing new stuff .. I like the easy wall : http://qcon.co.th/product/q-con-q-con-easy/

Edited February 17, 2015 by casualbiker