Visiting to the friend locked in prison

[thunder18]

Some people do have over active minds.

Perhaps they are simply better informed than the others.

95% of others prefer to stay unawared - until it is too late for them to change anything. Reactive, not proactive.

I'll stick with over active minds. I have read the same posts you have, which seem to be your only form of information of what you were expecting to find in a Thai prison.

Any how now having been, have you noticed anyone following you around ? Found any severed dogs heads in the fridge, or is your life pretty much the same as it was this time last week.

I used another ID (2nd citizenship's one). Good luck to them with that - that passport has "never entered" Thailand.

[berybert]

Some people do have over active minds.

Perhaps they are simply better informed than the others.

95% of others prefer to stay unawared - until it is too late for them to change anything. Reactive, not proactive.

I'll stick with over active minds. I have read the same posts you have, which seem to be your only form of information of what you were expecting to find in a Thai prison.

Any how now having been, have you noticed anyone following you around ? Found any severed dogs heads in the fridge, or is your life pretty much the same as it was this time last week.

I used another ID (2nd citizenship's one). Good luck to them with that - that passport has "never entered" Thailand.

Sometimes you don't make much sense. You have a passport that has never entered Thailand ?

[thunder18]

I used another ID (2nd citizenship's one). Good luck to them with that - that passport has "never entered" Thailand.

Sometimes you don't make much sense. You have a passport that has never entered Thailand ?

Sometimes you do not care to read carefully. Does the term "2nd citizenship" means anything to you?

Yes, I have another passport - which is never entered Thailand. The 1st one did (but i not used that while on the visit).

[berybert]

I used another ID (2nd citizenship's one). Good luck to them with that - that passport has "never entered" Thailand.

Sometimes you don't make much sense. You have a passport that has never entered Thailand ?

Sometimes you do not care to read carefully. Does the term "2nd citizenship" means anything to you?

Yes, I have another passport - which is never entered Thailand. The 1st one did (but i not used that while on the visit).

Right so you have 2 passports. One has never entered Thailand but the other one has, but you didn't use that one.

So you didn't use the one that is in Thailand or the other one that has never entered Thailand.

You used a third one ?

[thunder18]

I have another passport - which is never entered Thailand. The 1st one did (but i not used that while on the visit).

So you didn't use the one that is in Thailand or the other one that has never entered Thailand.

You used a third one ?

Third? Since when 1+1=3? Bad in math, huh?

[berybert]

OK I will try one last time, what passport did you use ?

Cant have been the one that has never been in Thailand because that one isn't in Thailand.

And you didn't use the one that you do have in Thailand.

[Exsexyman]

Some people do have over active minds.

Wow! Anyone who has been following your interminable posts on the Kao Tao threads can be excused for howling with laughter at that statement!

[berybert]

Some people do have over active minds.

Wow! Anyone who has been following your interminable posts on the Kao Tao threads can be excused for howling with laughter at that statement!

Really. Do explain.

[thunder18]

OK I will try one last time, what passport did you use ?

Second one. From two available. But not the first. Just second one of two. Yawnnnnnn.....

Cant have been the one that has never been in Thailand because that one isn't in Thailand.

"Never entered to Thailand officially" is NOT equal to "isn't in Thailand".

Shall I explain you the difference? One has thai visas, arrival cards, passed through immigrations etc - and the second just quietly sits in my pocket and not exposed to anyone until it is really needed. Both are in Thailand in fact - but the second is "officially invisible" to any background checks here (if any). It is "not here" for any chechks, as it was "never officially entered" into here.

And you didn't use the one that you do have in Thailand.

OK, just forget it. Seems getting the "2-1=?" math is too difficult for you. Edited March 6, 2015 by thunder18

[berybert]

I am guessing you are not Thai, therefore your passport will have been issued in a country other than Thailand.

You are saying you used a passport with no visa no entry date, no arrivals card. And no one questioned it ?

Mysterious MR. Jones.

Edited March 7, 2015 by berybert

[novo58]

@ thunder18....................................

I will become a true TV keyboard warrior and speculate ( based on absolutely no factual information at all) that your main concern might have something to do with your OWN legal status in Thailand. To be SO paranoid about being " checked up on" makes me wonder about your own visa status.

If you do not have a valid visa I would stay away from the prison.

I DONT THINK ( but I have no first hand knowledge)......that the CIA or Interpol have anyone sitting around in a Thai prison on the off chance that someone " of interest" may visit an inmate.

And if this person you want to visit is "flagged" , so that any visitors are advised to another organisation......................you will never know. Use of a " second passport" WITHOUT any entry details recorded may set off alarm bells..........................But then again.... TIT.... I dont really think that the prison has a computer linked to immigration, CIA or Interpol.

At the prison you are just another visitor to another prisoner.

Dont worry .........................be happy

[hawker9000]

OK I will try one last time, what passport did you use ?

Second one. From two available. But not the first. Just second one of two. Yawnnnnnn.....

Cant have been the one that has never been in Thailand because that one isn't in Thailand.

"Never entered to Thailand officially" is NOT equal to "isn't in Thailand".

Shall I explain you the difference? One has thai visas, arrival cards, passed through immigrations etc - and the second just quietly sits in my pocket and not exposed to anyone until it is really needed. Both are in Thailand in fact - but the second is "officially invisible" to any background checks here (if any). It is "not here" for any chechks, as it was "never officially entered" into here.

And you didn't use the one that you do have in Thailand.

OK, just forget it. Seems getting the "2-1=?" math is too difficult for you.

You're under the impression that anybody seriously interested in your having visited this inmate because of the nature of his particular transgressions and the other government(s) involved thereby ... will be stymied by your having used a passport for id purposes at the prison OTHER than the one you used to enter Thailand. I get that. But you've gotta' know that IF CIA/Interpol/Mickey Mouse Club/Girl Scouts really DO take an interest in you as a result of your visit, I doubt that your having used that "other" passport will be much of an obstacle to them. Unless it was under a false name. And if you have one of those, you probably wouldn't have needed to be mining info here. Just sayin'...

[thunder18]

I am guessing you are not Thai, therefore your passport will have been issued in a country other than Thailand.

Why? Only Thai passport shall have no issues in a country other than Thailand?

You are saying you used a passport with no visa no entry date, no arrivals card. And no one questioned it ?

Exactly.

More than that: we (the visitors) must photocopy the passport ourselves (paying that usual B1/page), and noone compares the original one to the photocopied page. Frankly speaking, it is possible to visit someone ewen without the original passport - just bring the photocopy from your homeplace, and that's it.

[thunder18]

>To be SO paranoid about being "checked up on" makes me wonder about your own visa status.

My visa status is fine, thank you for worrying.

>If you do not have a valid visa I would stay away from the prison.

I _do_ have visa, and my visa is valid.

>I DONT THINK ( but I have no first hand knowledge)......that the CIA or Interpol have anyone sitting around

>in a Thai prison on the off chance that someone " of interest" may visit an inmate.

They don't have to "be sitting" in there. Everything is computerized nowadays - they might have the full list of visitors at the other side of Earth, and just in one click. Mind the words "databases" and "remote access"?

Once checked, they might give a tip/clue/order to their Thai colleagues (USA and TH are pronounced as "very close friends" just last week at the news). Personally, or remotely. Then, once the dirty job is done by TH cops - they might arrange the extradition (with or without "personal escorting service").

That's exactly how the bro and othes got arrested, and some of them were extradited.

>And if this person you want to visit is "flagged" , so that any visitors are advised to another organisation......................you will never know.

Yeah...that was the case I was asking here, as I was/am worryin' about this part of the story.

>Use of a " second passport" WITHOUT any entry details recorded may set off alarm bells..........................

Why shall those bells to noise? The passport (second one) is valid - it is not the cheap copy from Khaosan Rd, but the true one. Yes, there is no visa - but they are not the Immigration to be worry about this, too.

Anyway, I _do_ have visa and all the other craps - but in another, the primary one passport. Anyone willing to check me about my visa status - there they will go. But I did not use that passport once visited the guy.

Why I need to use second while I have the first? Well, that was my wish. I have two - thus I can use any of two, depending on the current situation. Thailand does not recognize dual citizenships? Well, how sad for Thailand - but I am not Thai, so why would I care this much? My country (both of them) does, and I am their passport's holder. Ring the bells? Okay, do it - and now try to find THE visited person in Thailand. Officially THE passport, i.e. the person never comes here.

Seems we have the juristical collision here, huh? Which makes the mission done in safest possible way.

I dont really think that the prison has a computer linked to immigration, CIA or Interpol. At the prison you are just another visitor to another prisoner.

Let's expect and prepare for the worst case: let's assume that they DO have that.

Anyway, the cops may easily obtain any data from the prison and the inmates. IF cops got a tip to monitor the said person(s) based on their cases for the possible links - they sooner or later will get all the visitors's list... And then only God knows, what will be their next step.

But yes - TIT, and it is all hardly possible or there will be no usual "enveloped" way out. But there is a non-zero chance that it may happen on the way I may not like it.