webfact Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 CONSTITUTION WATCHMembers of junta-appointed agencies 'must be barred'NITIPOL KIRAVANICHTHE NATION NLA members oppose proposal by CDC sub-panel to exclude them from politics; Peerasak threatens to resign if the move goes aheadBANGKOK: -- THE Constitution Drafting Committee (CDC) sub-panel on drafting provisional articles for the new charter is proposing that members of the five main agencies installed by the junta be barred from political |positions for two years after their terms end.The bodies, known as "five rivers", established under the roadmap of the junta are the National Legislative Assembly (NLA), the National Reform Council (NRC), the Cabinet, the Constitution Drafting Committee (CDC), and the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO).The drafting of articles under this topic would be done one by one, with no more than 20 to be completed, he said. The work on the articles was expected to start today. If approved, hundreds would be affected.Scrutiny would focus on the authority and operations of the NLA, the NRC and the NCPO, particularly for the future involvement of the "five rivers" in the process of direct election of representatives and indirect election of senators, he said.Jade Donavanik, a sub-panel member, said yesterday, "Personally, I believe that for at least two years after their terms end, they should not be involved in politics."'NCPO must be barred'During the subcommittee meeting, one member strongly urged the CDC to bar the NCPO from taking part in politics. The proposal has yet to be resolved."I see the possibility in this proposal, and it is a good thing to eliminate the NCPO from politics to promote justice for every side," the CDC member said.Jade said a break from politics should be mandatory for the "five rivers", because these agencies are directly related to the |new constitution. That would also prevent the public from believing the "five rivers" had drafted the charter for their own sake, he saidAccording to the provisional constitution now in effect, CDC members should not have been a member of a political party in the preceding three years and cannot participate in politics for two years after their term ends. The aim was to avoid conflict of interest.Wallop Tangkananurak, a member of the NLA and also the "five rivers", said there are regulations on becoming a CDC member and everyone must obey the law."Members who planned to participate in politics intentionally did not propose themselves for the CDC in the first place," he said.If the proposal to bar the "five rivers" from taking part in politics was drafted, it could be perceived as the CDC amending its first regulation, he said.Paiboon Nititawan, an NRC member and also a charter drafter, said Jade's proposal has not yet been discussed in the CDC meetings because at this stage it is still his personal opinion. However, the proposal would probably not pass in a CDC meeting, he said."One river is the CDC, which certainly won't participate in politics for two years, according to the interim charter, but if the other four rivers were banned as well, |it would not be the right thing to do," he said.Up in armsNLA vice president Peerasak Porjit voiced his opposition to the CDC subcommittee's proposal on prohibiting the "five rivers" from political participation."I do not agree with the proposal, and if there was such a possibility of the 'five rivers' being barred then I would not have agreed to be in the NLA; the possibility of such a proposal should have been informed to the 'five rivers' first," Peerasak said.He said the NLA position is temporary, in which the agency's authority and workings are both representative and senator with no relation to or benefit from the drafting of the constitution.He also said if there was such a move, he should be informed soon so that he could resign from the NLA.Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Members-of-junta-appointed-agencies-must-be-barred-30255336.html-- The Nation 2015-03-05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bkkcanuck8 Posted March 4, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 4, 2015 Headline misleading, it only recommended a two year time out between the two....... which I think is fairly reasonable. The current lot were not suppose to be your "normal" politicians since that was seen as a potential conflict of interest..... at least that is what the NCPO seemed to indicate when they were selecting them... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zaphod reborn Posted March 4, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 4, 2015 All political office holders for the past 15 years should have a 5 year timeout for corruption. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thesetat2013 Posted March 4, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 4, 2015 These people need to be banned for at least 2 years. They did not take their jobs to be politicians and they knew it was a temp posting. The fact that they are making the constitution amd now are against being banned from politics gives the impression they are makin laws to benefit themselves. Their ban should be made as a check and balance so these people will not take advantage of their position now 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneday Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 "...THE Constitution Drafting Committee (CDC) sub-panel on drafting provisional articles for the new charter is proposing that members of the five main agencies installed by the junta be barred from political |positions for two years after their terms end..." What a refreshing idea. Anybody surprised some of these NLA members do not want this put in the new charter? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimbc Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 "...THE Constitution Drafting Committee (CDC) sub-panel on drafting provisional articles for the new charter is proposing that members of the five main agencies installed by the junta be barred from political |positions for two years after their terms end..." What a refreshing idea. Anybody surprised some of these NLA members do not want this put in the new charter? Yes, time to weed them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) All political office holders for the past 15 years should have a 5 year timeout for corruption.I have thought that this might be a way out for a long time. Let some of the smaller parties take the helm for awhile. Some of the parties that have followed the rules quietly and not been involved in all this squabbling. A party that is known for it's policies and not by the color that it likes. That would be the end to all this trouble. Edited March 5, 2015 by greenchair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLew Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 They should be allowed to run in contested elections and if voted in ... so be it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilSA1 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 IMO I think that there should be restrictions in place preventing members of the agencies responsible for drawing up the new constitution. This should definitely reduce any perception "that the "five rivers" had drafted the charter for their own sake" and avoid accusations of conflict of interest. They should look at accepting this proposal with pride, it will really prove that they are true patriots in formulating their countries' new constitution, fair and square. Albeit "members who planned to participate in politics intentionally did not propose themselves for the CDC in the first place" it would be the 'right thing to do', by agreeing with the proposal on the table. I agree in general with the previous posters but find the words used, 'banned' and 'weeded out', a little harsh. "Barred' and 'disallowed' may be more appropriate. (just my view) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post timewilltell Posted March 5, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2015 The fact is that not all of the NLA members are fit for the job they are doing. I personally know one of them, and he has no ethics whatsoever. A friend (of his) told me he is a hired gun - meaning he will do anything for the highest bidder (not that he is a hitman). The news that these people are hiring their friends, spouses, children and probably girlfriends or mia nois to 'spread the love' from the government coffers and that those that were interviewed said they were doing nothing wrong as there were no rules broken - just shows the type of people who are in the NLA and the fact that they have zero idea on morals or social responsibility. It is a trait of many Thai people and not one that is beneficial to the populace or the country. Even the General said he thought it was OK for people to hire their family members. In most forward looking nations this is known as nepotism and a cousin to corruption yet so many Thai people are blind and ignorant of what constitutes a morally sound mindset and even more blind to voting in a person with the interests of the nation at heart. Unfortunately everyone has been infected by the Chinese 'money is God' philosophy but of course Thailand has never been colonised ha ha. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky11 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 They should be allowed to run in contested elections and if voted in ... so be it This scenario could be deemed as a referendum on the new charter. If they get it (the constitution) right with the people approving of it's contents and they go on to be chosen to be their representatives in government then I see nothing wrong with that!! It is, in fact, anti-democratic to bar them from contesting elections as their positions are temporary and when their work is finished they will effectively be jobless and banned from taking on a political role for 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toybits Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Vested interests come first!!! Everything else is secondary. Me First!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 '... if there was such a possibility of the 'five rivers' being barred then I would not have agreed to be in the NLA; ... Peerasak said.' Something that would, no doubt, have upset the employed family members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkcanuck8 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Peerasak should resign now regardless. Anyone that had/has political ambitions should not be part of this "temporary" government. He has tainted himself by opposing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laocowboy2 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Oink, oink - what? No turn at the trough for five years? Trot off, no way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khounteen Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 They make money in politics, of course they would not agree to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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