New Passport possibly arriving late - short Overstay problem, solvable at airport?

[ALFREDO]

New Passport possibly arriving late - short Overstay problem, solvable at airport?

Maybe somebody can give advise.

I wait for my new Passport which should arrive end of the month, (but could be arriving later)

and than be handed over to me in my Consular section in Bangkok.

On 28.3. my 60 day Extension of stay - reason, children with Thai, runs out.

I think another extension is than not possible, have to leave Thailand.

But, my Emergency Passport has only 5 month validity until end of August.

So, I would not be allowed in neighboring countries (6 month validity necessary) to enter.

Would it be a possibility, if I have to make a short overstay, to went to the airport than, with my Emergency Passport which by that time would be -perforated- (cancelled?) by my Consulate - when handing me out my new Passport - and pay fine in airport and fly home?

Or, have I to go threw the normal process at a Thai Immigration to change my entry stamp into the new Passport - but at that time I would be possibly already on Overstay without a possibility of an extension.

[paz]

Of course you can pay overstay at the airport.

Even with few days on overstay you can still apply for an extension, it is normally done.

[paz]

To add, you can also get a 7 days extension, if that helps.

[Mario2008]

You are not on an non-immirgant extension of stay, but exteded 60 days on a toruist visa or visa exempt entry?

In that case you can do everything at the airport and do not need to visit an immigraiton office to have the stamps transferred. They will do that at the border.

[ALFREDO]

Of course you can pay overstay at the airport.

Even with few days on overstay you can still apply for an extension, it is normally done.

I know, can pay at Airport the Overstay, but the Passport is than already perforated by my Consular section,

no problem with that?

You think an extension of an extension is possible?

I am already on a 60 day extension of a Non Immigrant Visa.

[ALFREDO]

To add, you can also get a 7 days extension, if that helps.

Would help, but.

You think an extension of an extension is possible?

I am already on a 60 day extension of a Non Immigrant Visa.

[ALFREDO]

You are not on an non-immirgant extension of stay, but exteded 60 days on a toruist visa or visa exempt entry?

In that case you can do everything at the airport and do not need to visit an immigraiton office to have the stamps transferred. They will do that at the border.

I am on a 60 days extension of stay on top of a 90 Days Non Immigrant O Visa, both for reason

= having children with Thai.

[ubonjoe]

To add, you can also get a 7 days extension, if that helps.

Would help, but.

You think an extension of an extension is possible?

I am already on a 60 day extension of a Non Immigrant Visa.

You can apply for a 7 day extension. pay the 1900 baht fee and be given 7 days to leave the country.

Immigration does them all the time for those that are on an extension already.

[ALFREDO]

You can apply for a 7 day extension. pay the 1900 baht fee and be given 7 days to leave the country.

Immigration does them all the time for those that are on an extension already.

Thank you -ubonjoe- did not know that there is a another extension possibility on top of an extension of a Non Immigrant O Visa.

Anyway, my Passport arrived already, faster than thought.

Will pick him up in Bangkok, transfer the necessary stamps into it in Udon Thani Immigration

and will leave TH latest on 28.3. as my Visa extension expires.

Only one thing I could still choose,

already outside the country in Vientiane or Savannaketh,

do I try to get a Non Immigrant -O- Multiple entry now in Savannaketh, for having Thai children?

Or do I need to be legalized father of my children for that.

If the mother and the children (8 and 11 young, are agreeing, is that process in Amphoer a long one?

Or done in a day? Thank you.

[Mario2008]

Suspect you wil only get a single entry non-O based on the children.

Your children are old enough to do the legitimisation at the ampur, which should be a 1 day process. But it depends on whether they will want to have your name officially translated into Thai or not.

If you have an official document with your name in Thai, such as a work permit or drives licence, take it with you to show your name in Thai.

[ALFREDO]

Suspect you wil only get a single entry non-O based on the children.

Your children are old enough to do the legitimisation at the ampur, which should be a 1 day process. But it depends on whether they will want to have your name officially translated into Thai or not.

If you have an official document with your name in Thai, such as a work permit or drives licence, take it with you to show your name in Thai.

OK, only single entry, than I can get my Non Immigrant -O- also in Austria where I am heading for a short stint beginning of April.

They, in Vienna, as far as I remember are also only issue single entry Non Immigrant -O-.

Will try and ask to get a 7 day extension in the Udon Thani Immigration to avoid the Lao trip.

Can you please inform me, I never understood fully, what are the positive legal effects of having the children legitimized in comparison of only having your name in the birth certificate? Thank you.

[ubonjoe]

If you get the legitimization done you can apply for one year extension of stay based upon being the parent of a Thai. Just show 400k baht in a Thai bank in your name only or proof of 40 baht. No need to worry about visas, 60 day extensions and border runs.

Also at many embassies and consulates you will be able to get a multiple entry non-o visa without a problem.

Without being the legal father their could also be custody problems if you split up with their mother.

Not sure there are any others than perhaps for inheritance after your passing on.

[Mario2008]

Your name on the birth certificate only makes a claim that you are the father, according to the person registering the birth. It is only a claim and has no legal significance. You can claim that the pope is the father, but that doesn't mean it is true and he has parental rights and must pay child support.

With legitimising your child you would become the legal parent accordining to the law and would also get parental rights, togetehr with the mother. (Unless the mother disputes yougetting parental rights).

[paz]

Another consequence of not legalizing a child is that he/she would not inherit unless explicitly stated in a will, or winning a court case.

[ALFREDO]

To add, you can also get a 7 days extension, if that helps.

Would help, but.

You think an extension of an extension is possible?

I am already on a 60 day extension of a Non Immigrant Visa.

You can apply for a 7 day extension. pay the 1900 baht fee and be given 7 days to leave the country.

Immigration does them all the time for those that are on an extension already.

Came back today to Udon Thani Immigration at 2:20 PM, with my new Passport from Bangkok,

tomorrow 28.3. my 60 days extension of stay on top of a Non Immigrant O is running out,

as mentioned above in other posting.

Was told than, I would have to wait 30 min until her Boss would come to transfer my arrival stamps into the new Passport.

I asked also, for the possibility of a 7 day extension from 28.3. - 4.4. until my flight to EU would leave TH.

She meant, NO,

cannot give extension, I have to leave the country, shall go to border and to Vientane.

As I have to do so, I must not wait, should go to the border with my 2 Passports,

the old already perforated and invalid stamped one

and my new one.

I asked about that possibility two times, YES the female Immigration officer said, no problem,

can do it in that way.

And NO, no extension possible.

Would be no problem, get stamped out on old Passport and stamped in in Lao with new Passport.

So, I will try that tomorrow.

[paz]

Would be no problem, get stamped out on old Passport and stamped in in Lao with new Passport.

All stamps will be on the new passport.

7 days extension is always possible. To received it just fill the form, indiacte 7 days and pay the fee.

[ALFREDO]

Would be no problem, get stamped out on old Passport and stamped in in Lao with new Passport.

All stamps will be on the new passport.

7 days extension is always possible. To received it just fill the form, indiacte 7 days and pay the fee.

I told the female officer what I read in thaivisa.com and your opinion and the similar opinion of -ubonjoe-

But, I can tell you, the Female officer was not "impressed"

Anyway, I can remember long ago, some years, I wanted a 7 Day extension on a Extensiuon from some kind, 30 day Touristvis extension and was that time, long ago also denied also, had to leave TH.

Now, its to late also, have to go Vientiane tomorrow and make my border run.

[paz]

I told the female officer what I read in thaivisa.com and your opinion and the similar opinion of -ubonjoe-

But, I can tell you, the Female officer was not "impressed"

Anyway, I can remember long ago, some years, I wanted a 7 Day extension on a Extensiuon from some kind, 30 day Touristvis extension and was that time, long ago also denied.

Now, its to late also, have to go Vientiane tomorrow and make my border run.

It doesn't matter if the officer is the desk are impressed or not. If are in the right ask to speak with a supervisor. No need to mention thaivisa.

[ALFREDO]

I told the female officer what I read in thaivisa.com and your opinion and the similar opinion of -ubonjoe-

But, I can tell you, the Female officer was not "impressed"

Anyway, I can remember long ago, some years, I wanted a 7 Day extension on a Extensiuon from some kind, 30 day Touristvis extension and was that time, long ago also denied.

Now, its to late also, have to go Vientiane tomorrow and make my border run.

It doesn't matter if the officer is the desk are impressed or not. If are in the right ask to speak with a supervisor. No need to mention thaivisa.

-paz-

The highest ranking officer was not there.

I could have waited for him, as he was the only one who could have changed my entry and leaving stamp from old to new Passport.

As I read here on thaivisa many times, they do what they want, when they want.

In that Udon Thani Immigration it seems there is the rule, NO extension on a extension!

[paz]

In that Udon Thani Immigration it seems there is the rule, NO extension on a extension!

That is decided by the supervisor not the desk officer, And when you are in the right you can bring the matter to the region officers, their names should be on large sing in the office.

[ALFREDO]

That posting downstairs I tried more times to post in early afternoon today, before I drove to Nong Khai.

But system did not let me post.. Did not work for me.

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-PAZ-

I do not know if I am in the right, have yours and -Ubonjoe- opinion, who did not answer a second time on that.

Believe also, not wise to get -cross- with the Immigration office responsible for me.

Will see next time what the Head officers opinion is when I in that Immigration again.

Will see now, what surprises await me in Nong Khai at the border with my 2 Passports.

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[paz]

I do not know if I am in the right, have yours and -Ubonjoe- opinion, who did not answer a second time on that.

Believe also, not wise to get -cross- with the Immigration office responsible for me.

You were in the right because the 7 days extension is given normally when another extension is denied, only once per entry.

You do not have to "get-cross". Asking for the supervisor is no offense and normally done. If you are refused any extension they must tell a reason why, and how to correct, if possible.

[ALFREDO]

To add, you can also get a 7 days extension, if that helps.

Would help, but.

You think an extension of an extension is possible?

I am already on a 60 day extension of a Non Immigrant Visa.

You can apply for a 7 day extension. pay the 1900 baht fee and be given 7 days to leave the country.

Immigration does them all the time for those that are on an extension already.

-PAZ-

I do not know if I am in the right, have yours and -Ubonjoe- opinion, who did not answer a second time on that.

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Was now in Nong Khai, but could not use the border with my sons with border pass as they 10/11 and 7 are not old enough to get a border pass by themselfes, had to be, 12 old.

My Gf their mother was not with me and a Thai family member is necassary under 12 to get,

such border pass..

Drove all the way for nothing got agitated and lost? in that process of showing papers birth certificates ect my credit card holder somewhere.

It fell down?

Or got stolen, anyway, I have now some more unnecassry ways to make, a important EU SIM card, for Internet Banking difficult to replace, gone to.

Now on Overstay also.

[paz]

I do not know if I am in the right, have yours and -Ubonjoe- opinion, who did not answer a second time on that.

You are. You can search and read "7 days extension". Many threads explain it.