New Form Of Screening At Us Immigration

[webbew]

I was put through the ringer on my second trip to Thailand, which would have been in 2002. Almost missed my connecting flight. I've had no security hold ups since that incident and no worries should I get tagged for search again. Nothing to hide means nothing to find.

[tk47]

Wasn't there some uproar recently in the UK press about the U.S.A. wanting more and more details of people who were travelling to the U.S. ?

When you consider also the fact that the vehicle licencing authority in the UK can send information at the rate of so many thousand an hour to police cars with index number reading computers to say if that car is taxed, tested, insured etc that to have a system where the Immigration can view a log of where you have been is very feasible indeed.

In fact the UK customs used to keep a log of people travelling on the cross channel ferries to France on booze n fags trips to make it easier to spot probable offenders and make it easier to catch them on their way back and confiscate their swag.

And with the advent of terrorism the airlines also hand over more data than ever about people travelling.

Big brother is definitely here and to have your details on a screen seems more than probable.

[crawford]

Thaiquila, you are one paranoid Mfer, dude

"Only the paranoid survive." Andy Grove (founder of Intel, and one smart dude)

[crawford]

I've been travelling to Europe for the past 25 years before coming here, and military personnel carrying automatic weapons could be seen throughout most major airports.

One thing about the Europeans though, they are more discrete. Nothing Uncle Sam does is ever subtle.

Those two sentences seem like a contradiction. Could you elaborate, please? I'd like to understand what you're trying to say.

[crawford]

That would be the attitude of Americans who have lined up like lemmings to surrender constitutional civil liberties and give illegal authority to the executive branch during in the bush years in the name of security. The terrorists won. We surrendered.

Who lined up like a lemming? Let's face it - the government does what it wants, when it wants, and uses the media to sell those decisions to us. What are we supposed to do? Form street mobs like in the 60's? And what good would that do?

I'm as paranoid as the next guy, but I don't think stepping up security means the terrorists have won. Quite the contrary. Somehow we've managed to prevent another 9/11 from happening - so far. I suspect stepped up surveillance and security has something to do with that, and I'm all for it, when it comes to TERRORISTS. But harrassing people because they went to Thailand? That's what I don't get. Leaving our borders wide open, so terrorists can walk right across along with the starving peasants who just want honest work? I don't get that either.

Seems to me a better solution would be to simply forbid Muslims from flying into or within our countries. Next, give every Muslim who's not a citizen the chance to renounce Islam, or else leave the country immeditately. Next, encourage Muslim citizens to renounce Islam, and start surveilling the hel_l out of those who don't. I make no apologies to the politically correct. Our right to life, liberty and convenient, fear-free travel is greater than their right to practice a hateful, murderous political ideology masquerading as a "peaceful religion". Think about it sometime.

[crawford]

Well facts are facts. Bush's foreign policy has failed. Iraq is in civil war. The Bush war has lasted as long as World War 2 and the progress has been backwards. And now in defeat all he can do is demonize his critics as well as blame them for his failures. Takes alot of gall!

May I respectfully suggest another perspective? The Muslim world has been waging war against the non-Muslim world for decades now. How much longer should we have kept our heads in the sand? Their attacks only got more frequent and more murderous. They were gaining and we were losing. Finally, after 9/11, the US put it's foot down. I don't see how Al Gore or John Kerry could've done different. Saddam was a festering problem, and had to be dealt with sooner or later. We had hoped the Iraqi people would depose him, but for 12 years they were unable to, even as they were starving to death in massive numbers. For 12 years he withheld food and medicine from his own people, diverting the illicit "oil-for-food" money to new palaces, weapons programs and rewards to the families of suicide bombers. For 12 years he shot at US and UK planes patrolling the no-fly zones and also played games with UN weapons inspectors. For 12 years he conspired with the UN, France, Germany and Russia to evade sanctions. So we took Saddam and his two sadistic, rape-mongering sons down. That is already a success.

There was a reasonable hope that we could install a stable, democratic, secular, pro-Western and pro-business regime, as we had in Germany and Japan after WWII. Nobody could know for sure. We tried. Now we go to 'plan B': get the Shiites and Sunnis to kill each other. If we can foment civil war in Iraq, there is good chance that Iran will jump in on the Shiite side, and Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Syria, etc. will jump in on the Sunni side. If they can keep it up for a decade or so, they'll exhaust a lot of their oil money and blood lust and save 10's of thousands of Western lives. When they've exhausted most of their hatred, then maybe they'll be ready for civilization and we can try again. Or maybe we'll have discovered a replacement for oil, and won't need to.

Just my humble point of view...no disrespect to you.

Regards

[crawford]

Australia, no stamp in or out.

UK likewise, but they do swipe the passport.

No questions about where you have come from.

Seems clear to me that they already know where you've been - the questions are just an "honesty test".

[zeusbheld]

You don't suppose the previous conviction had anything to do with it?

It's possible, but I doubt it. I have a friend who lives in Thailand and get searched just about every time he returns to the United States. My friend does not have any convictions for anything. You have to remember for some people sex tourism=child prostitution. Like it or not, Thailand has a reputation for sex tourism. Therefore, to some people, lots of trips to Thailand imply sex tourism which implies child prostitution.

i've never been questioned except one time when i flew over here for a weekend. i said i was visiting a girlfriend, the immo officer just smirked. i seriously doubt that american immo officers check people for homemade porn JUST because they go to thailand a lot. i suspect the previous arrest had a LOT to do with it.

When they search you, they look at all your DVDs, turn on your computer and go through all your pictures, and look through all the pictures on your digital camera. This guy had videos of himself having sex with what appear to be underaged boys.

hope they don't check for bootleg DVDs ...

[crawford]

Based on some posts in other travel forums there does seem to be a profile (male, over 45, having visited S.E. Asia, perhaps other locales), that is probably one among hundreds, calling for possible secondary searches with a focus on child pornography, aka ‘Immoral Articles’, U.S. Code 19, sec. 1305.

...or any lottery ticket, or any printed paper that may be used as a lottery ticket, or any advertisement of any lottery.

Who knew that it was illegal to bring a lottery ticket into the US?

[crawford]

I was put through the ringer on my second trip to Thailand, which would have been in 2002. Almost missed my connecting flight. I've had no security hold ups since that incident and no worries should I get tagged for search again. Nothing to hide means nothing to find.

Really? So you wouldn't mind being strip-searched, x-rayed, and forced to take powerful laxatives and watched for hours while you defecate into a clear container?

[sriracha john]

UPDATE... he's pled guilty

L. Scott Ward

Professor pleads guilty to child pornography charge

A retired Wharton professor yesterday pleaded guilty in Virginia to a federal charge of producing child pornography abroad, including videos showing him having sex with young boys.

L. Scott Ward, 64, also admitted to videotaping children performing sexual acts on each other. The video tapes of himself showed Ward "engaged in sexually explicit conduct" with boys, according to court documents.

Ward has been in custody since he was arrested on Aug. 27, 2006 at Dulles International Airport. Ward was returning from Brazil when customs agents flagged him for having taken "excessive" trips overseas, including to Thailand, a haven for sex tourism.

A search of Ward's luggage found three mini-DVDs showing the professor performing sex acts with teenage boys, one of whom later tried to obtain a visa in Brazil for entry to the United States.

According to the plea agreement, Ward sent e-mails to the Department of State in an effort to help get one boy, a 16-year-old, a visa.

Ward also sent e-mails to the victim "in which he discussed sex and prepared and persuaded him to engage in sexual conduct," according to the documents.

Ward will be sentenced on May 11 and faces a minimum of 15 years in prison.

When reached at his office, Ward's Virginia attorney, Peter Greenspun, declined comment.

Ward was known as an accomplished marketing expert when he taught at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. Originally from Pittsburgh, he taught at the Harvard Business School before joining Wharton in 1980. While at Penn, he was involved in projects in the Philippines and had a visiting appointment to Chulalongkorn University in Thailand.

Ward owned homes in Cape Cod and Maui.

The Virginia plea does not resolve similar federal charges Ward is facing in Philadelphia, which resulted from a search of packages which Ward sent to himself at his Wharton office. The search was conducted following Ward's arrest in Virginia.

Ward retired from Penn on July 1, 2005, but before his arrest last year had been scheduled to teach classes on a part-time basis, according to spokesperson Lori Doyle.

"Once we learned of his arrest, we made arrangements to have his classes covered," Doyle said yesterday.

Doyle said while Penn does not conduct criminal background checks of faculty candidates, the University does conduct a "comprehensive review process" for the tenure track positions.

"It is a job for life," said Doyle. "We take it very seriously."

In 1999, Ward was convicted in Montgomery County of two misdemeanor charges of propositioning a male state trooper who was posing as a 15-year-old boy prostitute, and received five years' probation. He was allowed to continue teaching at Penn. Ward was acquitted in a 1995 trial in which a Kensington teenager accused him of molesting him when he was 14, sometime around 1990.

Mike Marino, a former Montgomery County district attorney, prosecuted Ward in the 1995 case.

"I was not sad to see that he was arrested again," said Marino, who currently works as the county solicitor.

Marino said during the investigation involving Ward, a hidden tape recorder was not turned on and as a result, his department did not have enough evidence for a stronger case.

"We missed a great opportunity to see that justice was done," Marino said yesterday.

- Philadelphia Inquirer

[sriracha john]

Excerpt of his resume posted on his university website:

SCOTT WARD

I. EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND

University of Wisconsin

B.S., M.S., Ph.D., Doctorate in Communications Research

II. TEACHING

A. Teaching Positions

Current Position: Professor of Marketing, The Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania, 1980 to present. Affiliated Faculty, Annenberg School of Communication.

Associate Professor, Harvard Business School, 1976 to 1980. Assistant Professor, 1970 to 1976.

Visiting Professor, Chulalongkorn University, Thailand, Fall 1987, Winter, 2000

[Ijustwannateach]

But gawwrrrrsh, he had such excellent qualifications... (MOE, are you paying attention?) In his case, a police check may even have turned up something to alert immigration here. Another argument for police checks, here.

[sriracha john]

UPDATE.... and it's bye bye, Professor

Former Ivy League professor sentenced on child porn charges

An Ivy League business school professor has been sentenced to 15 years in prison for having videos of himself engaging in sexual acts with children, ABC News has learned.

Authorities caught Lawrence Scott Ward, 64, with child pornography in his luggage and on his laptop computer last August after arriving at Dulles International Airport near Washington, D.C., on a flight from Brazil, according to court documents.

United States Attorney Chuck Rosenberg said, "As this case demonstrates, individuals who exploit our children come from all walks of life. We will continue to be vigilant in protecting those who cannot protect themselves."

Ward pleaded guilty to charges of producing child pornography for the purposes of importing it to the United States, on Feb. 20 of this year. In addition to his prison sentence, Ward will also serve three years of supervised release and pay a fine of $17,500. He has been in federal custody since his arrest last year.

At the time of his arrest, Ward was a professor emeritus of marketing at the University of Pennsylvania's renowned Wharton School of Business.

An affidavit in support of a criminal complaint filed last summer in federal court in Alexandria stated Ward's luggage was flagged for a more thorough inspection for possible child pornography after a customs officer noticed Ward's "excessive" trips to Thailand, a "well known destination for people having sex with minors."

Federal agents recovered at least three DVDs in which Ward appears to be "engaging in sexual contact" with children, the affidavit reads. A video of children as young as 8 engaged in sexual activity was also found on Ward's laptop computer. Ward's resume says he had been a visiting professor at Chulalongkorn University in Thailand. Federal officials believe Thailand to be a well-known destination for "sex tourists," who travel there to exploit minors. Wharton's Web site also listed pro bono consulting work in Brazil as one of Ward's projects.

According to published reports, in 1999, Ward was accused of soliciting sex from an undercover Pennsylvania state trooper posing as a 15-year-old boy. He was charged with attempting to promote prostitution and corrupt minors and entered an Alford plea, which means he pleaded guilty while not admitting he committed the crimes. He was fined $2,500 and given five years of probation.

Ward's resume lists several government consulting assignments, including work with the executive office of the president, the Federal Communications Commission, Department of Commerce and the special action office for drug abuse prevention. Many of his published works deal with the effects of television advertising and marketing on children and adolescents.

According to his biography, Ward had been a marketing consultant to many top companies and lists IBM, Microsoft, General Motors, Home Depot, Exxon, Citibank and Johnson & Johnson among his clients. During the 1980s, he hosted a television program, "The Wharton Business Report," on the now-defunct Financial News Network. Ward's biography also states that he was chairman of a foundation that served disadvantaged children with learning disabilities.

- ABC News (USA)

[JimmyTheMook]

Good Work !

Another Sleazebag Down....

UPDATE.... and it's bye bye, Professor

Former Ivy League professor sentenced on child porn charges

An Ivy League business school professor has been sentenced to 15 years in prison for having videos of himself engaging in sexual acts with children, ABC News has learned.

Authorities caught Lawrence Scott Ward, 64, with child pornography in his luggage and on his laptop computer last August after arriving at Dulles International Airport near Washington, D.C., on a flight from Brazil, according to court documents.

United States Attorney Chuck Rosenberg said, "As this case demonstrates, individuals who exploit our children come from all walks of life. We will continue to be vigilant in protecting those who cannot protect themselves."

Ward pleaded guilty to charges of producing child pornography for the purposes of importing it to the United States, on Feb. 20 of this year. In addition to his prison sentence, Ward will also serve three years of supervised release and pay a fine of $17,500. He has been in federal custody since his arrest last year.

At the time of his arrest, Ward was a professor emeritus of marketing at the University of Pennsylvania's renowned Wharton School of Business.

An affidavit in support of a criminal complaint filed last summer in federal court in Alexandria stated Ward's luggage was flagged for a more thorough inspection for possible child pornography after a customs officer noticed Ward's "excessive" trips to Thailand, a "well known destination for people having sex with minors."

Federal agents recovered at least three DVDs in which Ward appears to be "engaging in sexual contact" with children, the affidavit reads. A video of children as young as 8 engaged in sexual activity was also found on Ward's laptop computer. Ward's resume says he had been a visiting professor at Chulalongkorn University in Thailand. Federal officials believe Thailand to be a well-known destination for "sex tourists," who travel there to exploit minors. Wharton's Web site also listed pro bono consulting work in Brazil as one of Ward's projects.

According to published reports, in 1999, Ward was accused of soliciting sex from an undercover Pennsylvania state trooper posing as a 15-year-old boy. He was charged with attempting to promote prostitution and corrupt minors and entered an Alford plea, which means he pleaded guilty while not admitting he committed the crimes. He was fined $2,500 and given five years of probation.

Ward's resume lists several government consulting assignments, including work with the executive office of the president, the Federal Communications Commission, Department of Commerce and the special action office for drug abuse prevention. Many of his published works deal with the effects of television advertising and marketing on children and adolescents.

According to his biography, Ward had been a marketing consultant to many top companies and lists IBM, Microsoft, General Motors, Home Depot, Exxon, Citibank and Johnson & Johnson among his clients. During the 1980s, he hosted a television program, "The Wharton Business Report," on the now-defunct Financial News Network. Ward's biography also states that he was chairman of a foundation that served disadvantaged children with learning disabilities.

- ABC News (USA)

[peter991]

Does anybody have a definition of what is considered 'excessive trips to Thailand'? I travel between Australia and Khon Kaen every 3 months.

For the last 3 trips I have been briefly questioned as to my reasons for visiting the Kingdom. My reply is always 'holiday' and I let Australian Passport Control I have a wife and a house in Issan.

Peter

[a2396]

The only time The Dude was ever paranoid about his American government was btw 1993 and 2001. In other words, the Clinton years. The Dude knew that that elitist administration was out to get regular American dudes like The Dude. The Dude was paranoid then and he was not digging the shady goings on at the time

There's no shady goings-on in the present USA government AT THIS TIME?

[bruceboy]

You don't suppose the previous conviction had anything to do with it?

I agree I'm sure the lad was flagged and they decided to take a closer look next time he passed through Yank Immigration. Good on them for catching the perv!!!

Another creap of the streets.

[Dakhar]

I was put through the ringer on my second trip to Thailand, which would have been in 2002. Almost missed my connecting flight. I've had no security hold ups since that incident and no worries should I get tagged for search again. Nothing to hide means nothing to find.

Really? So you wouldn't mind being strip-searched, x-rayed, and forced to take powerful laxatives and watched for hours while you defecate into a clear container?

Forced to strip, searched, x-rays and laxatives/defacation..... that is some crazy porn?! Whatever happened to melted candles? Or at least the Swim Suit eddition. (kidding)

Oh well, I bet this creep is out in less than 5 years.

Edited May 13, 2007 by Dakhar

[dumspero]

Well, I'm a senior official with TSA and now you're all on our watch list! No, just kidding, I'm not TSA, any kind of federal official or otherwise posing, attempting to pose or thinking about posing as a federal official, nor do I know anyone who has ever posed, attempted to pose or even thought about posing as a federal official (whoa, scared myself, there with that joke).

Taiquila is just mad the screeners make him take off his aluminum hat. He's afraid he'll miss out on the latest trilateral commission conspiracy.

On a more serious note, I have a hard time seeing the problem with a known pedophile being screened carefully and, hey, what do you know, caught, AGAIN. What in the hel_l does this have to do with the 4th Amendment right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures. What they did was 100% reasonable.

And by the way, same with every specific action I've read about that's been done under the Patriot Act. Read the details about exactly what's being done and the actions fit within existing US Supreme Court jurisprudence re the boundaries of what's a reasonable search and seizure under the 4th Amendment. And that's even taking into account all the purely court-made rules that are not set forth in the 4th Amendment.

[Ulysses G.]

Based on some posts in other travel forums there does seem to be a profile (male, over 45, having visited S.E. Asia, perhaps other locales), that is probably one among hundreds, calling for possible secondary searches with a focus on child pornography, aka ‘Immoral Articles’, U.S. Code 19, sec. 1305.

There must be lots of pedophiles UNDER 45 years old. Why the profile?

[sriracha john]

Oh well, I bet this creep is out in less than 5 years.

If I gambled, I'd love to get a piece of your bet, but since I don't... I'll tell you why.

He was convicted in federal court and sent to federal prison. Federal prison sentences don't allow for any parole or reduction of time served. There's no "time off for good behavior", etc.

In other words, 15 years will be 15 years.

Enjoy your stay, professor.

[sriracha john]

Based on some posts in other travel forums there does seem to be a profile (male, over 45, having visited S.E. Asia, perhaps other locales), that is probably one among hundreds, calling for possible secondary searches with a focus on child pornography, aka ‘Immoral Articles’, U.S. Code 19, sec. 1305.

There must be lots of pedophiles UNDER 45 years old. Why the profile?

The same as any profiling that's done.... it's based on statistical probability.

Who's most likely to fit into whatever particular category that they are profiling for.

[Maizefarmer]

Do they profile regular/frequent travellers - and keep those notes at hand ?

U bet - I got asked when I came back form he USA recently if I was carrying any GM plant material - nothing about porn, drugs, un-decleared cash above whatever one can bring in without declearing, or anything else - it was very specific - any GM plant product or material?

Odd - yes, unless of course you know what I do for a living (grow corn and am good buddies with Monsanto and very pro GM crop development)?

Was that just co-incidence? I doubt it. They could have asked me about bringing in a dozen things I wasn't supposed to, but they quoted that specifically.

[torito]

Does anybody have a definition of what is considered 'excessive trips to Thailand'? I travel between Australia and Khon Kaen every 3 months.

For the last 3 trips I have been briefly questioned as to my reasons for visiting the Kingdom. My reply is always 'holiday' and I let Australian Passport Control I have a wife and a house in Issan.

Peter

I have also been questioned all the times I go there, including dogs sniffing my bugs....but the questioning is not briefly, as I am not blonde and have no blue eyes...Australia you know?...

The reason they give is always the same, "too many times in Thailand...drugs".

[ajarnmark]

he was flagged in a sex-predator crackdown for having taken "excessive" trips to Thailand, a haven for sex tourism, authorities said.

Now where are those people who start making fun of the crackdowns in Thailand? Seems like USA is following Thailand for starting crackdowns.

[sriracha john]

Do they profile regular/frequent travellers - and keep those notes at hand ?

U bet - I got asked when I came back form he USA recently if I was carrying any GM plant material - nothing about porn, drugs, un-decleared cash above whatever one can bring in without declearing, or anything else - it was very specific - any GM plant product or material?

Odd - yes, unless of course you know what I do for a living (grow corn and am good buddies with Monsanto and very pro GM crop development)?

Was that just co-incidence? I doubt it. They could have asked me about bringing in a dozen things I wasn't supposed to, but they quoted that specifically.

I have a friend who is a foreman at a Pontiac car plant factory in the USA. As they fall under the GM umbrella of companies, I wonder if a less-than-astute official will end up questioning him along the same lines when he arrives.

[Dakhar]

Oh well, I bet this creep is out in less than 5 years.

If I gambled, I'd love to get a piece of your bet, but since I don't... I'll tell you why.

He was convicted in federal court and sent to federal prison. Federal prison sentences don't allow for any parole or reduction of time served. There's no "time off for good behavior", etc.

In other words, 15 years will be 15 years.

Enjoy your stay, professor.

SSSSWWWEEEET NELLY, that is going to hurt. Thanks for the facts.

[toptuan]

Things are changing, thats for sure. I feel the US is turning into a police state. Anything for security though. Its worth it! (Uh huh)

I agree with Thaiquila.

You guys who think the US is turning into a police state need to get a thicker skin, or do some more traveling.

As tight as things have gotten since 9/11, going through US Customs/Immigration is still a breeze compared to any travel in the middle east, most of Africa, and the old Soviet Union.

Try traveling to Israel to get your head back into perspective. Now THERE's some heavy duty customs/immigration procedures. Traveling into Israel, and taking a few domestic flights, here's what I "enjoyed."

• Stepping into a curtained cubicle with an agent who feels you up and down with surgical gloves. No electronic detector at that station--strictly a "hands on" operation.
  
• Having a belt confiscated because the buckle had a sharp edge.
  
• Bags thoroughly emptied and searched at every departure.
  
• Extensive interrogations at every departure; holding up the flight departure for up to 15-20 minutes. Questions like, "Why did your mother choose your middle name?" <deleted>.
  
• Agents requiring me to produce receipts to verify my whereabouts (hotels, restaurants, museums, etc.); Then having me wait while they called some of the establishments to verify.
  
• Agents attempted to interrogate me in four languages, apparently to see if I would slip and speak a language I claimed I didn't know (arabic, French, etc.). I thought I was on a James Bond movie set.
  
• Going through at least three security stations for every single flight (international and domestic).
  

Whine all you want about the US being a police state, but you ain't seen nothin' yet.

Edited May 13, 2007 by toptuan

[larvidchr]

About 5 years ago I met a guy who was developing a computer system for Oz immigration that allowed them to track entry and movement of people around the world. It was in a pilot phase then but he could give the exact times and points of entry for my friends kids who were holidaying around Europe.

Obviously there was some kind of data sharing arrangement between countries participating in the network (I got the impression it was a collaborative project). I don't think there is a single global big brother system but I can tell you that some countries definitely do share immigration records electronically and in real time. I would imagine there has been a lot more data sharing on since the War on t_Error started.

Even if you visit a 'non electronic' country, immigration at your next destination would probably record where you came from as matter of routine. If they're wired up, into the database it goes.

In 1948 the intelligence sharing agreement UKUSA was made, the first countries was US, GB, Canada, New Zealand and Australia, til this day this agreement is the basis for intelligence sharing, it is now expanded to the point where all NATO countries is in this agreement, and a lot of other countries aswell, some with limitations.

Some of the hubs for this gathering of intelligence is, Menwith Hill England, Pine Gap Australia, Bad Aibling Germany, Misawa Japan, Waihopai New Zealand, Skibsbylejren Denmark,Yakima Firing range Washington, there are many more, all information from these places is funneled to NSA in Fort Meade Maryland.

All levels of intelligence is within this agreement, millitary, political, civil, criminal.

At least 33 countries is in the Wassenaars agreement signed the 3 december 1998 on limitations on encryption and built in government/intelligence backdoors/keys, Janet Reno American minister of justice was head of these negotiations.

Countries in this intelligence gathering system is offering government administration computersystems for free to 3 world countries, wether it is directly said or it is just understood between the involved parties, the fact is that the donor are tapped directly in to these systems, another method is that government national registers, persons register, criminal register, tax systems are buoght by companys like the American company, Computer Sience Corporation, it has its headoffice next door to Fort Meade, and always has a large % of its staff on loan from NSA. An example is Denmark where all the above registers is buoght and run by CSC. This in effect means that everything the Danish authorities knows about a Danish citizen is known by NSA aswell.

Belive me when I say that all, internet traffic is monitored, all radio transmissions, all mobilephone calls, all landline calls, all e.mails aso. aso. This is done by massive computers with software programs like SILKWORTH, and databases like ANCHORY, They search everything for "keywords" and a lot of much more complicated things, and can search on individual targets aswell, from whole countries to single persons.

This is not a conspiracy but mere cooperation between Nations with similar interests, and to my mind a sensible thing to do in this time and age, but you better belive they know where we have travelled for the most part, some countries are ofcourse more subtle in the way they behave with this information than others.

Finally i will bet a beer anytime, that this mail has enough keywords to make a lamp light in some computer somewhere.

Have a nice day

And by the way, dont ask me where I have this information from, go to a library, research the net go to bookstores, lots of info on the subject, some from leaked dokuments and more from public avalible government information.

Edited May 13, 2007 by larvidchr