Red shirts event 'needs permission', NCPO says

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POLITICS
Red shirts event 'needs permission', NCPO says
The Sunday Nation

BANGKOK: -- National Council for Peace and Order spokesman Colonel Winthai Suvari has said the red shirts must seek permission from the First Army Region's Peace Keeping Force before holding their planned activity on Friday.

The red shirts plan to make a merit-making ceremony at Wat Plabplachai to mark the fifth anniversary of the crackdown on protesters near the Democracy monument in 2010.

Winthai said the planned gathering of the red shirt leaders may violate NCPO order number 3/2558 and Article 44 of the interim charter.

Red shirt leader Nattawut Saikua said his group's objective in meeting the Department of Special Investigation on Tuesday was to ensure that the probe into the crackdown would continue in a transparent and fair manner.

The red shirts sought the meeting following reports that a new investigative team had been appointed to oversee the case, he said.

He denied that red shirts were trying to exert political influence and meddle in DSI affairs.

"We want to know the progress of the case and what is the timeframe of the case under the new investigative team,'' he said.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Red-shirts-event-needs-permission-NCPO-says-30257446.html

-- The Nation 2015-04-05

[espinoza]

The reds are totally rtight.

[NongKhaiKid]

Whatever happened about the mass prayer gathering being organised to protest the NCPO's ' attack ' on Buddhism ?

[Thaddeus]

"We want to know the progress of the case and what is the timeframe of the case under the new investigative team,'' he said.

As there are some good deals on last minute flights.

[mikemac]

.............."Red shirt leader Nattawut Saikua said his group's objective in meeting the Department of Special Investigation on Tuesday was to ensure that the probe into the crackdown would continue in a transparent and fair manner.".........................

Sick and tired of hearing about the "crackdown" on the actions of armed terrorists who used innocent yet naive citizens as human shields. Entering the city and holding it to ransom breaking every law in the book, attacking the army and expecting to get away with it because they were "peaceful protesters".

In an other country it would have gone on for nowhere near 3 months and the fatality rate would have been much higher.

How about going to the root of the problem and probing the one/s who organized and funded this terrible display of spite and revenge ?

The redshirts have never done anything good for Thailand, only caused death and destruction of public and private property. They should be banned along with any other "shirt wearing" political protesters who use violence to further their gains.

[Pimay1]

Red shirt leader Nattawut Saikua said his group's objective in meeting the Department of Special Investigation on Tuesday was to ensure that the probe into the crackdown would continue in a transparent and fair manner.

This is the first time I have seen a man want to make his own noose.

[rametindallas]

I would say that the chances of the Red Shirts getting permission to remind everyone of their failed soft coup attempt are somewhere between 'Slim' and none and last I heard, 'Slim' just left town. They are still playing the sympathy card. The same one Ms. Yingluck is playing. You don't try to overthrow a legitimate government with an armed mob and taking over the main retail area of Bangkok and then cry when you are ousted after, how long was it? Oh, yeah, three months; especially when the then PM Abhisit offered early elections which is supposedly what they gathered for in the first place.

[LannaGuy]

I would say that the chances of the Red Shirts getting permission to remind everyone of their failed soft coup attempt are somewhere between 'Slim' and none and last I heard, 'Slim' just left town. They are still playing the sympathy card. The same one Ms. Yingluck is playing. You don't try to overthrow a legitimate government with an armed mob and taking over the main retail area of Bangkok and then cry when you are ousted after, how long was it? Oh, yeah, three months; especially when the then PM Abhisit offered early elections which is supposedly what they gathered for in the first place.

a misinterpretation of the truth if ever there was one

[Pimay1]

I would say that the chances of the Red Shirts getting permission to remind everyone of their failed soft coup attempt are somewhere between 'Slim' and none and last I heard, 'Slim' just left town. They are still playing the sympathy card. The same one Ms. Yingluck is playing. You don't try to overthrow a legitimate government with an armed mob and taking over the main retail area of Bangkok and then cry when you are ousted after, how long was it? Oh, yeah, three months; especially when the then PM Abhisit offered early elections which is supposedly what they gathered for in the first place.

a misinterpretation of the truth if ever there was one

Can you please give us your interpretation of the truth? Obviously you know the truth.

[NeilSA1]

Red shirt leader Nattawut Saikua said his group's objective in meeting the Department of Special Investigation on Tuesday was to ensure that the probe into the crackdown would continue in a transparent and fair manner.

This is the first time I have seen a man want to make his own noose.

Agreed. He denied that red shirts were trying to exert political influence and meddle in DSI affairs.

The powers that be should now investigate and look at taking action against Nattawut before he initiates further unrest.

[sungod]

Bearing in mind DSI was a political tool of pPeau Thai, and the previous team so heavily loaded in their favour, Nattawut has in fact changed his tune from a witch hunt to fair and transparent.

[LannaGuy]

I would say that the chances of the Red Shirts getting permission to remind everyone of their failed soft coup attempt are somewhere between 'Slim' and none and last I heard, 'Slim' just left town. They are still playing the sympathy card. The same one Ms. Yingluck is playing. You don't try to overthrow a legitimate government with an armed mob and taking over the main retail area of Bangkok and then cry when you are ousted after, how long was it? Oh, yeah, three months; especially when the then PM Abhisit offered early elections which is supposedly what they gathered for in the first place.

a misinterpretation of the truth if ever there was one

Can you please give us your interpretation of the truth? Obviously you know the truth.

I may not always know the 'truth', as you seem to, but I do know a lie when I read/see one and we know who 'overthrew' a government and the whole world knows so stop lying?

[NongKhaiKid]

Red shirt leader Nattawut Saikua said his group's objective in meeting the Department of Special Investigation on Tuesday was to ensure that the probe into the crackdown would continue in a transparent and fair manner.

This is the first time I have seen a man want to make his own noose.

Thainess, gob off first and think later.

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I would say that the chances of the Red Shirts getting permission to remind everyone of their failed soft coup attempt are somewhere between 'Slim' and none and last I heard, 'Slim' just left town. They are still playing the sympathy card. The same one Ms. Yingluck is playing. You don't try to overthrow a legitimate government with an armed mob and taking over the main retail area of Bangkok and then cry when you are ousted after, how long was it? Oh, yeah, three months; especially when the then PM Abhisit offered early elections which is supposedly what they gathered for in the first place.

a misinterpretation of the truth if ever there was one

Can you please give us your interpretation of the truth? Obviously you know the truth.

I may not always know the 'truth', as you seem to, but I do know a lie when I read/see one and we know who 'overthrew' a government and the whole world knows so stop lying?

Well the truth is that 'overthrew a government' is not correct, because it wasn't a government, it was a get rich real quick club owned by a dictator and nothing more.

[than]

Red shirt leader Nattawut Saikua said his group's objective in meeting the Department of Special Investigation on Tuesday was to ensure that the probe into the crackdown would continue in a transparent and fair manner.

Translation : Nattawut scare that DSI will investigate on Red shirt 2010 crimes in transparent and fair manner without interference of their political allies......

[mikemac]

Red shirt leader Nattawut Saikua said his group's objective in meeting the Department of Special Investigation on Tuesday was to ensure that the probe into the crackdown would continue in a transparent and fair manner.

This is the first time I have seen a man want to make his own noose.

Thainess, gob off first and think later.

Not just Thainess , NKK, as a lot of our fellow expats, tourists, long term visitors etc on TVF are guilty of that.

[lewy67]

So the leaders of the democratic movement that has easily won every election held this century want to meet to make merit and remember their comrades who were slain by the military whilst protesting for freedom and democracy in 2010 and the junta - military government who overthrew this democracy want to stop this merit making ceremony using the draconian, anti freedom and anti democratic section 44 of their interim constitution? What a surprise.

[Fat Haggis]

I would say that the chances of the Red Shirts getting permission to remind everyone of their failed soft coup attempt are somewhere between 'Slim' and none and last I heard, 'Slim' just left town. They are still playing the sympathy card. The same one Ms. Yingluck is playing. You don't try to overthrow a legitimate government with an armed mob and taking over the main retail area of Bangkok and then cry when you are ousted after, how long was it? Oh, yeah, three months; especially when the then PM Abhisit offered early elections which is supposedly what they gathered for in the first place.

Abhisit offered elections, they were turned down by the opposition

Yingluck held Elections, they disrupted by the opposition

Prayuth... well I've stated in other threads, I will give 10,000 baht to any charity George names if there's elections before April 2016.

[tbthailand]

.............."Red shirt leader Nattawut Saikua said his group's objective in meeting the Department of Special Investigation on Tuesday was to ensure that the probe into the crackdown would continue in a transparent and fair manner.".........................

Sick and tired of hearing about the "crackdown" on the actions of armed terrorists who used innocent yet naive citizens as human shields. Entering the city and holding it to ransom breaking every law in the book, attacking the army and expecting to get away with it because they were "peaceful protesters".

In an other country it would have gone on for nowhere near 3 months and the fatality rate would have been much higher.

How about going to the root of the problem and probing the one/s who organized and funded this terrible display of spite and revenge ?

The redshirts have never done anything good for Thailand, only caused death and destruction of public and private property. They should be banned along with any other "shirt wearing" political protesters who use violence to further their gains.

I wasn't hanging out here last spring, but I have to wonder if you were voicing the same concerns about suthep and his protests, or .... not.

[billd766]

I would say that the chances of the Red Shirts getting permission to remind everyone of their failed soft coup attempt are somewhere between 'Slim' and none and last I heard, 'Slim' just left town. They are still playing the sympathy card. The same one Ms. Yingluck is playing. You don't try to overthrow a legitimate government with an armed mob and taking over the main retail area of Bangkok and then cry when you are ousted after, how long was it? Oh, yeah, three months; especially when the then PM Abhisit offered early elections which is supposedly what they gathered for in the first place.

a misinterpretation of the truth if ever there was one

So what is "your" interpretation of the truth?

Please post it complete with the links so that we can compare.

Edited April 5, 2015 by billd766

[Pimay1]

I would say that the chances of the Red Shirts getting permission to remind everyone of their failed soft coup attempt are somewhere between 'Slim' and none and last I heard, 'Slim' just left town. They are still playing the sympathy card. The same one Ms. Yingluck is playing. You don't try to overthrow a legitimate government with an armed mob and taking over the main retail area of Bangkok and then cry when you are ousted after, how long was it? Oh, yeah, three months; especially when the then PM Abhisit offered early elections which is supposedly what they gathered for in the first place.

a misinterpretation of the truth if ever there was one

Can you please give us your interpretation of the truth? Obviously you know the truth.

I may not always know the 'truth', as you seem to, but I do know a lie when I read/see one and we know who 'overthrew' a government and the whole world knows so stop lying?

Wow this is turning into a nice discussion. Having been in Thailand the entire time since Khun Thaksin and his group took the reins of the government and many years before that, I don't claim to know all the truth but I certainly know a lot of it.

I'm glad you can discern a lie when you read/see it. That is a wonderful attribute for anyone. I have reviewed my post of fifteen words (Can you please give us your interpretation of the truth? Obviously you know the truth.) and to the life of me I can not determine how you discerned either of these statements to be a lie. I must be missing something. For the sake of continuing this amiable discussion would you be so kind as to respond pointing out the lie in these statements? Thanks in advance. Please excuse any typos as Mr. Arthritis is visiting my hands again today.

LIE:

A false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.

[GeckosDiving]

So the leaders of the democratic movement that has easily won every election held this century want to meet to make merit and remember their comrades who were slain by the military whilst protesting for freedom and democracy in 2010 and the junta - military government who overthrew this democracy want to stop this merit making ceremony using the draconian, anti freedom and anti democratic section 44 of their interim constitution? What a surprise.

[ourmanflint]

.............."Red shirt leader Nattawut Saikua said his group's objective in meeting the Department of Special Investigation on Tuesday was to ensure that the probe into the crackdown would continue in a transparent and fair manner.".........................

Sick and tired of hearing about the "crackdown" on the actions of armed terrorists who used innocent yet naive citizens as human shields. Entering the city and holding it to ransom breaking every law in the book, attacking the army and expecting to get away with it because they were "peaceful protesters".

In an other country it would have gone on for nowhere near 3 months and the fatality rate would have been much higher.

How about going to the root of the problem and probing the one/s who organized and funded this terrible display of spite and revenge ?

The redshirts have never done anything good for Thailand, only caused death and destruction of public and private property. They should be banned along with any other "shirt wearing" political protesters who use violence to further their gains.

I wasn't hanging out here last spring, but I have to wonder if you were voicing the same concerns about suthep and his protests, or .... not.

Comparing the red shirts revolts to suthep's marches is like comparing al-qaeda to the suffragette movement.

[mikemac]

.............."Red shirt leader Nattawut Saikua said his group's objective in meeting the Department of Special Investigation on Tuesday was to ensure that the probe into the crackdown would continue in a transparent and fair manner.".........................

Sick and tired of hearing about the "crackdown" on the actions of armed terrorists who used innocent yet naive citizens as human shields. Entering the city and holding it to ransom breaking every law in the book, attacking the army and expecting to get away with it because they were "peaceful protesters".

In an other country it would have gone on for nowhere near 3 months and the fatality rate would have been much higher.

How about going to the root of the problem and probing the one/s who organized and funded this terrible display of spite and revenge ?

The redshirts have never done anything good for Thailand, only caused death and destruction of public and private property. They should be banned along with any other "shirt wearing" political protesters who use violence to further their gains.

I wasn't hanging out here last spring, but I have to wonder if you were voicing the same concerns about suthep and his protests, or .... not.

I have never supported violent actions by any side, red or yellow. The actions of Thaksin's army of terrorists in the "Great 2010 Reprisal" and the Suthep led protests were completely different scenarios. Any one with even limited mentality who has spent any time in Thailand in the past 5 years can see that.

If the Suthep mob carried on the same as the red rabble did I would attack them as well.

It seems what happened in 2010 was legal protesting by the reds and what Suthep's followers did was against the law. Could never understand that way of thinking.

You are hoping I am a rabid yellow flag waving elite royalist Amart hypocrite who would attack the reds but defend the yellows but you are to be disappointed. Having said that you will probably portray me in that light anyway.

I am not a Democrat supporter nor do I support the current regime, although I can't help but notice the reds have stopped killing innocent protesters in the streets and the Suthep side has stopped their protests so at least something good has come from the coup. We will never know how many more people would have died on the streets if the PTP were still running ??? the show.

Your only argument to defend your reds is whether or not I defend the yellows.

You are looking for for an easy target to pick on, look somewhere else.

[brucec64]

.............."Red shirt leader Nattawut Saikua said his group's objective in meeting the Department of Special Investigation on Tuesday was to ensure that the probe into the crackdown would continue in a transparent and fair manner.".........................

Sick and tired of hearing about the "crackdown" on the actions of armed terrorists who used innocent yet naive citizens as human shields. Entering the city and holding it to ransom breaking every law in the book, attacking the army and expecting to get away with it because they were "peaceful protesters".

In an other country it would have gone on for nowhere near 3 months and the fatality rate would have been much higher.

How about going to the root of the problem and probing the one/s who organized and funded this terrible display of spite and revenge ?

The redshirts have never done anything good for Thailand, only caused death and destruction of public and private property. They should be banned along with any other "shirt wearing" political protesters who use violence to further their gains.

Your post has validity. However, substitute yellow shirt for red shirt and the post is equally valid. The only difference is the army supported the yellow shirts and attacked the red shirts.

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So the leaders of the democratic movement that has easily won every election held this century want to meet to make merit and remember their comrades who were slain by the military whilst protesting for freedom and democracy in 2010 and the junta - military government who overthrew this democracy want to stop this merit making ceremony using the draconian, anti freedom and anti democratic section 44 of their interim constitution? What a surprise.

That wins the all time TV award for total and absolute bullshit, and lack of truth.

[mikemac]

.............."Red shirt leader Nattawut Saikua said his group's objective in meeting the Department of Special Investigation on Tuesday was to ensure that the probe into the crackdown would continue in a transparent and fair manner.".........................

Sick and tired of hearing about the "crackdown" on the actions of armed terrorists who used innocent yet naive citizens as human shields. Entering the city and holding it to ransom breaking every law in the book, attacking the army and expecting to get away with it because they were "peaceful protesters".

In an other country it would have gone on for nowhere near 3 months and the fatality rate would have been much higher.

How about going to the root of the problem and probing the one/s who organized and funded this terrible display of spite and revenge ?

The redshirts have never done anything good for Thailand, only caused death and destruction of public and private property. They should be banned along with any other "shirt wearing" political protesters who use violence to further their gains.

Your post has validity. However, substitute yellow shirt for red shirt and the post is equally valid. The only difference is the army supported the yellow shirts and attacked the red shirts.

No, I am sure I got my wording and color scheme right. And have you ever wondered why the Army does not side with the Shin regime/reds ? Take an hour off and have a real good think about it.

Your last sentence is simply stating the obvious. You say it like there is something wrong with not supporting the redshirts and in fact "attacking them". And you honestly see no reason for these "attacks" ? You really should try to keep up.

I cannot imagine what it would be like if you had the Army, the RTP, and the redshirts all in bed together ! I would not touch Thailand with a 10 foot pole if that was the case.

[mikemac]

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So the leaders of the democratic movement that has easily won every election held this century want to meet to make merit and remember their comrades who were slain by the military whilst protesting for freedom and democracy in 2010 and the junta - military government who overthrew this democracy want to stop this merit making ceremony using the draconian, anti freedom and anti democratic section 44 of their interim constitution? What a surprise.

That wins the all time TV award for total and absolute bullshit, and lack of truth.

......................."That wins the all time TV award for total and absolute bullshit, and lack of truth."...........................

despite some very stiff opposition !

[stoffel45]

Soon be over now......Red shirts - Taksin's drones - mindless - greedy - self -serving like their master.

Taksin's dirty Rice Scam destroyed the foundations of the so called red-shirt movement - after that - exposed by the farmers themselves - the rot and corruption became too evident.

Time now for the ordinary country folk to rise up against these would be masters of the poor and put them DOWN finally - permanently.

[Fat Haggis]

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So the leaders of the democratic movement that has easily won every election held this century want to meet to make merit and remember their comrades who were slain by the military whilst protesting for freedom and democracy in 2010 and the junta - military government who overthrew this democracy want to stop this merit making ceremony using the draconian, anti freedom and anti democratic section 44 of their interim constitution? What a surprise.

That wins the all time TV award for total and absolute bullshit, and lack of truth.

So you have read every single post on TVF to come to that conclusion?

I think you've just snatched the award after a recount!!!!