2 computers. 1 router. Will info be linked?

[Happy Grumpy]

One router that is wifi enabled.

One computer connected to it with an ethernet cable.

Another connected via wifi.

Let's add a tablet into the mix too.

All of these going through the one router. 2 via wifi and one through ethernet cable.

All three people are on their own facebook accounts. So that's 3 facebook accounts through one router.

Add forums into the mix. Each person is logged into the same forum with their own username. Three usernames through the one router.

Will these sites (particularly facebook) view them all as coming from the same source (the one router) or will they not been seen as together at all, even though they have the same IP address?

Thanks.

[tifino]

I've had the very situation arise with an Australian forum, and it took some convincing them that myself, wife and a Boarder very 3 separate entities

in hindsight, the problem has less chance of arising if each of the Accounts were initiated (not) from the same address at the time they were created.

with facebook, have each of the accounts settings require a different phone number be used for respective accounts verfiication

Edited April 16, 2015 by tifino

[Happy Grumpy]

I've had the very situation arise with an Australian forum, and it took some convincing them that myself, wife and a Boarder very 3 separate entities

in hindsight, the problem has less chance of arising if each of the Accounts were initiated (not) from the same address at the time they were created.

Thanks for the reply.

So it seems forums will view the 3 separate accounts as being from the one source, and possibly the same person.

My main interest is in facebook.

I don't want the other people's facebook accounts linked to mine in any way. Mine is used for business and professional reasons only and I don't want personal friends and acquaintances (and users of the network) showing up on client's accounts with a 'You may know this person' hint and vice versa.

If three or four people are all connected at the same time, through the one router, with the same IP address, how likely is this scenario (ie them being linked together).

Once, many years ago I was living in a condo on Ratchada, I typed in the URL of a forum and it automatically logged me into someone else's account (they were living on the same floor on the condo as me).

Edited April 16, 2015 by Happy Grumpy

[tifino]

on the same IP, if one of the peoples in the house has set their facebook for autologin, then as soon as another person on a different computer on that same IP, opens facebook, it's most likely he/ she will be looking at the first person's Facebook page.

I see missus's page every day...

Instead of simply opening facebook, or simply typing the facebook url...

...type the url like: www.facebook.com/********** (where you physically insert your user name into the url)

Then save the url for your page, and create a link onto your desktop

[2fishin2]

Nothing to worry about everybody will be different. But as always use computer security and log out when you are done.

[RichCor]

I've had the very situation arise with an Australian forum, and it took some convincing them that myself, wife and a Boarder very 3 separate entities

in hindsight, the problem has less chance of arising if each of the Accounts were initiated (not) from the same address at the time they were created.

Thanks for the reply.

So it seems forums will view the 3 separate accounts as being from the one source, and possibly the same person.

While it's possible to have issues with some types of servers/services (especially those not allowing differentiating PORT connections) I think you'll find that most software communication applications like FaceBook, LINE, and web based forums now work fine on SHARED Internet Connections.

Modern communications applications now use identification tokens and unique PORTS to allow multiple software clients so share the same common IP address when connecting to their server/services. Your Modem/ROUTER keeps track of all outgoing PORT connections and used this information to correctly route returning data.

But if your device client (like an IP Camera) has fixed port addressing then you'll have issues, or need to manually assign each a unique port address to allow them to function independently.

[Happy Grumpy]

Thanks for the info.

[Chicog]

Most routers use NAT, so you'll have a unique IP address on your home network, but the outside world all see one external (Public) IP address.

The Router takes care of who is sending what.

I've never had a problem with Facebook from three different devices apart from keeping them all synchronised.

As for being logged in from two different accounts, I don't know.

I would think Facebook would generate an alert if it was fussed about IP addresses.

Never seen it though.

[topt]

on the same IP, if one of the peoples in the house has set their facebook for autologin, then as soon as another person on a different computer on that same IP, opens facebook, it's most likely he/ she will be looking at the first person's Facebook page.

I see missus's page every day...

Instead of simply opening facebook, or simply typing the facebook url...

...type the url like: www.facebook.com/********** (where you physically insert your user name into the url)

Then save the url for your page, and create a link onto your desktop

Forgive my ignorance but what happens in a small coffee shop with wi fi or similar - is it not same principles but more users..............?

[innerspace]

Companies often have hundreds of people on the same ip and no websites have a problem....

Normal usage will be fine.

Worst case trigger a security warning due to too much on 1 ip but any site that triggers a warning like that will have a simple verification process to get past it.

If any site automatically logs you in via ip address then you dont want to use it. Facebook and 99.9999% of the web certainly doesnt, fundamental security flaw. User account logins are tracked via cookies that are placed on a specific computer not ip. The guy who regularly is logged into his wifes facebook is because she logs in on the same machine, not because of the same ip.

I can even log into multiple accounts of the same website multiple times from a single computer using different browsers or incognito modes.... ip nothing to do with it.

[Happy Grumpy]

Companies often have hundreds of people on the same ip and no websites have a problem....

Normal usage will be fine.

Worst case trigger a security warning due to too much on 1 ip but any site that triggers a warning like that will have a simple verification process to get past it.

If any site automatically logs you in via ip address then you dont want to use it. Facebook and 99.9999% of the web certainly doesnt, fundamental security flaw. User account logins are tracked via cookies that are placed on a specific computer not ip. The guy who regularly is logged into his wifes facebook is because she logs in on the same machine, not because of the same ip.

I can even log into multiple accounts of the same website multiple times from a single computer using different browsers or incognito modes.... ip nothing to do with it.

Thanks.

I heard before to close the browser just used (for example, firefox), clear the cookies with something like CCleaner, then open another browser (Chrome) and log into the same websites with a different log in and they won't connect the two.

I don't know how true that is.

My situation was/is a bit different though as the two+ accounts will be signed in at the same time, just through two+ different computers/tablets/phones.

Edited April 16, 2015 by Happy Grumpy

[Chicog]

I did log out of a (disposable) Hotmail account in Chiang Mai airport once and it dropped me straight into some Thai bird's inbox

[Happy Grumpy]

Hope you scanned for viruses after.

[NeverSure]

If a site was truly trying to block multiple sessions it could do it by reading your browser's footprint. The public information you send through your router is unique from millions of other computers. This is where your router doesn't look the same on the internet for the different nodes behind it - it's your browser.

This is how you will get different targeted advertising than will other nodes behind your router whether at home, work, or an internet cafe.

They can't get your computer's mac address but they can get all of this:

https://panopticlick.eff.org/

Cheers

Edited April 16, 2015 by NeverSure

[Chicog]

Hope you scanned for viruses after.

Wasn't my computer so not bothered.

[Daffy D]

Not sure what your problem might be.

At Wi-Fi places like café, restaurants, shopping malls and the like there must be hundreds of connections all from different accounts going through the same Internet connection, and that's seems to work alright.

I have a similar setup to you. One router with two LAN connected computers plus about 15 additional connections on Wi-Fi. The wife and kids phones and tablets two Samsung TV's and even the mother in law now uses the my Internet on her phone.

Each connection is assigned an IP number each time and I have no problems.

Download this little free program to see what is connected to your router and what IP address is assigned to each.

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/wireless_network_watcher.html

Scroll down to near bottom for download.

[NeverSure]

Companies often have hundreds of people on the same ip and no websites have a problem....

Normal usage will be fine.

Worst case trigger a security warning due to too much on 1 ip but any site that triggers a warning like that will have a simple verification process to get past it.

If any site automatically logs you in via ip address then you dont want to use it. Facebook and 99.9999% of the web certainly doesnt, fundamental security flaw. User account logins are tracked via cookies that are placed on a specific computer not ip. The guy who regularly is logged into his wifes facebook is because she logs in on the same machine, not because of the same ip.

I can even log into multiple accounts of the same website multiple times from a single computer using different browsers or incognito modes.... ip nothing to do with it.

Thanks.

I heard before to close the browser just used (for example, firefox), clear the cookies with something like CCleaner, then open another browser (Chrome) and log into the same websites with a different log in and they won't connect the two.

I don't know how true that is.

My situation was/is a bit different though as the two+ accounts will be signed in at the same time, just through two+ different computers/tablets/phones.

Cookies are just part of it. My link above shows how you are unique even with cookies disabled. Not all websites read your browser's unique footprint but they can with a small application. Websites track you by your browser's footprint.

Before and after the following, please go to https://www.whatismyip.com/ and find out what your public IP is so you can know if it changed.

You could try getting a new IP from your ISP by unplugging your router for at least 30 seconds and plugging it in. If your ISP uses dynamic IP assignment you should get a new one. If you do that you should release and renew the IP's on your computers after you do that. Losing the router, they might assign themselves an internal IP which you don't want and which don't work on your lan with your router.

After rebooting the router you can type cmd at the start menu of each of your computers and get a command prompt which is reminiscent of DOS. Into that, type:

ipconfig /release

Note the space after ipconfig.

Hit enter.

Now type

ipconfig /renew

Hit enter.

Alternatively reboot all computers to renew IPs.

[slipperylobster]

Each device will have their own MAC number. If you open the router page you will see who is connected and can control access times and such. Each also gets an IP number within the network. 192.168.0.01,02,03 etc.

Your router had an external IP number which identifies it's location. Nobody interferes with anyone else unless they share files and such, or join a Home Group.

Be aware that, if you do not set up a password for your router setup page, that anyone utilizing that router can reconfigure it. Many people never assign a password (I do not mean wifi password...I mean router page for setup). Some people may just decide to block the MAC Address of other users, so they get more bandwidth...at least for a while.

You can see what the default id and password is if you google the type of router you have on the internet and specify "default password". Anyone can do this..and it's worth a try (for example ..in a hotel late at night, and the router is visible)

Also spoofing MAC address will sometimes unblock you (if you are blocked)

[sandyf]

Each device will have their own MAC number. If you open the router page you will see who is connected and can control access times and such. Each also gets an IP number within the network. 192.168.0.01,02,03 etc.

Your router had an external IP number which identifies it's location. Nobody interferes with anyone else unless they share files and such, or join a Home Group.

Be aware that, if you do not set up a password for your router setup page, that anyone utilizing that router can reconfigure it. Many people never assign a password (I do not mean wifi password...I mean router page for setup). Some people may just decide to block the MAC Address of other users, so they get more bandwidth...at least for a while.

You can see what the default id and password is if you google the type of router you have on the internet and specify "default password". Anyone can do this..and it's worth a try (for example ..in a hotel late at night, and the router is visible)

Also spoofing MAC address will sometimes unblock you (if you are blocked)

You may be a little more with it than I am but I was under the impression that you can only configure a router via a physical connection and not by wireless. Certainly been the case with some of the routers I have had.

I also have a TP- Link repeater, as opposed to a router, and that certainly can only be done via ethernet. Not only that I must set a dedicated IP address on my laptop to access the software, will not work on DHCP.

Most of the larger hotels use a repeater on the various floors so you are not directly connected to the router, possibly in a small hotel.

[Chicog]

Each device will have their own MAC number. If you open the router page you will see who is connected and can control access times and such. Each also gets an IP number within the network. 192.168.0.01,02,03 etc.

Your router had an external IP number which identifies it's location. Nobody interferes with anyone else unless they share files and such, or join a Home Group.

Be aware that, if you do not set up a password for your router setup page, that anyone utilizing that router can reconfigure it. Many people never assign a password (I do not mean wifi password...I mean router page for setup). Some people may just decide to block the MAC Address of other users, so they get more bandwidth...at least for a while.

You can see what the default id and password is if you google the type of router you have on the internet and specify "default password". Anyone can do this..and it's worth a try (for example ..in a hotel late at night, and the router is visible)

Also spoofing MAC address will sometimes unblock you (if you are blocked)

You may be a little more with it than I am but I was under the impression that you can only configure a router via a physical connection and not by wireless. Certainly been the case with some of the routers I have had.

I also have a TP- Link repeater, as opposed to a router, and that certainly can only be done via ethernet. Not only that I must set a dedicated IP address on my laptop to access the software, will not work on DHCP.

Most of the larger hotels use a repeater on the various floors so you are not directly connected to the router, possibly in a small hotel.

You can enable Remote Admin on most wireless routers, but it isn't recommended for obvious reasons.

I don't touch TP-Link or D-Link as their firmware is often remotely exploitable.

[RichCor]

You may be a little more with it than I am but I was under the impression that you can only configure a router via a physical connection and not by wireless.

Certainly been the case with some of the routers I have had.

I also have a TP- Link repeater, as opposed to a router, and that certainly can only be done via ethernet. Not only that I must set a dedicated IP address on my laptop to access the software, will not work on DHCP.

Most of the larger hotels use a repeater on the various floors so you are not directly connected to the router, possibly in a small hotel.

You can enable Remote Admin on most wireless routers, but it isn't recommended for obvious reasons.

I don't touch TP-Link or D-Link as their firmware is often remotely exploitable.

Almost all of my Router/WiFi or WiFi Access Points have allowed configurations through the web browser while connected to it over WiFi. What they usually prevent, or warn against, is trying to do WiFi equipment firmware updates over WiFi.

Your mileage may vary.

[2fishin2]

You may be a little more with it than I am but I was under the impression that you can only configure a router via a physical connection and not by wireless.

Certainly been the case with some of the routers I have had.

I also have a TP- Link repeater, as opposed to a router, and that certainly can only be done via ethernet. Not only that I must set a dedicated IP address on my laptop to access the software, will not work on DHCP.

Most of the larger hotels use a repeater on the various floors so you are not directly connected to the router, possibly in a small hotel.

You can enable Remote Admin on most wireless routers, but it isn't recommended for obvious reasons.

I don't touch TP-Link or D-Link as their firmware is often remotely exploitable.

Almost all of my Router/WiFi or WiFi Access Points have allowed configurations through the web browser while connected to it over WiFi. What they usually prevent, or warn against, is trying to do WiFi equipment firmware updates over WiFi.

Your mileage may vary.

Yes every one of them allows access. How else would you configure them? Want to know log ins and passwords, do a google search. Edited April 18, 2015 by 2fishin2

[RichCor]

You may be a little more with it than I am but I was under the impression that you can only configure a router via a physical connection and not by wireless. Certainly been the case with some of the routers I have had.

I also have a TP- Link repeater, as opposed to a router, and that certainly can only be done via ethernet. Not only that I must set a dedicated IP address on my laptop to access the software, will not work on DHCP.

This is true if you cannot reconfigure the equipment to work within your current subnet with fixed/static IP Addresses to make them easier to manage.

On the other hand, most Media Adapters/Bridges (ie: HomeLink) or Wireless Link Repeaters don't need to be accessed after they've successfully been set up. So whatever settings they have as default don't really bother me. But I do like to tinker.

[sandyf]

You may be a little more with it than I am but I was under the impression that you can only configure a router via a physical connection and not by wireless. Certainly been the case with some of the routers I have had.

I also have a TP- Link repeater, as opposed to a router, and that certainly can only be done via ethernet. Not only that I must set a dedicated IP address on my laptop to access the software, will not work on DHCP.

This is true if you cannot reconfigure the equipment to work within your current subnet with fixed/static IP Addresses to make them easier to manage.

On the other hand, most Media Adapters/Bridges (ie: HomeLink) or Wireless Link Repeaters don't need to be accessed after they've successfully been set up. So whatever settings they have as default don't really bother me. But I do like to tinker.

I don't know if it standard or not but my repeater is tied to the router on MAC address so if you change the router you have to reconfigure the repeater. In the storms last autumn I lost 2 routers, took out the ADSL port.

[sandyf]

You may be a little more with it than I am but I was under the impression that you can only configure a router via a physical connection and not by wireless.

Certainly been the case with some of the routers I have had.

I also have a TP- Link repeater, as opposed to a router, and that certainly can only be done via ethernet. Not only that I must set a dedicated IP address on my laptop to access the software, will not work on DHCP.

Most of the larger hotels use a repeater on the various floors so you are not directly connected to the router, possibly in a small hotel.

You can enable Remote Admin on most wireless routers, but it isn't recommended for obvious reasons.

I don't touch TP-Link or D-Link as their firmware is often remotely exploitable.

Almost all of my Router/WiFi or WiFi Access Points have allowed configurations through the web browser while connected to it over WiFi. What they usually prevent, or warn against, is trying to do WiFi equipment firmware updates over WiFi.

Your mileage may vary.

Yes every one of them allows access. How else would you configure them? Want to know log ins and passwords, do a google search.

Ethernet cable, as per the instructions.

If it can be done by wifi then you would need to be on the network, defaults not much cop if you cannot log on to the network.

[Chicog]

You may be a little more with it than I am but I was under the impression that you can only configure a router via a physical connection and not by wireless.

Certainly been the case with some of the routers I have had.

I also have a TP- Link repeater, as opposed to a router, and that certainly can only be done via ethernet. Not only that I must set a dedicated IP address on my laptop to access the software, will not work on DHCP.

Most of the larger hotels use a repeater on the various floors so you are not directly connected to the router, possibly in a small hotel.

You can enable Remote Admin on most wireless routers, but it isn't recommended for obvious reasons.

I don't touch TP-Link or D-Link as their firmware is often remotely exploitable.

Almost all of my Router/WiFi or WiFi Access Points have allowed configurations through the web browser while connected to it over WiFi. What they usually prevent, or warn against, is trying to do WiFi equipment firmware updates over WiFi.

Your mileage may vary.

No, what they usually warn against is allowing someone outside your house to get into your router.

(Of course if you have the wrong TPLink or DLink, then they can get into your router from St. Petersburg).

Edited April 19, 2015 by Chicog

[Chicog]

In fact I'm in the processing of checking out a TP-Link Router at the moment.

Their advice, albeit a bit simple, is:

How to protect your TP-LINK network devices from potential cyber-attacks?

Recently, some public media and websites have published articles about the security issues of some network devices. TP-LINK Support has also received some customers’ inquiries about this issue. Thus, in order to make TP-LINK devices safer, we advise that customers go through the following steps and check the settings on their own devices to ensure that their networks are not vulnerable to attack.

1. Make sure that an anti-virus software is installed on your computer. If available, please enable the web brower’s anti-phishing function to avoid malicious websites or links.

2. If you are using a wireless router, change the default wireless password to make sure an unauthorized user cannot connect to your network.

3. Please change the default username/password(admin/admin) of your TP-LINK router to one that only you know. If necessary, write down your new username and password.

4. Please do not allow your web browser to remember the username and password of your router, and ensure that you close the browser after you finish configuring the router.

5. Please DO NOT enable the ”remote management ” feature on your router unless you really need it.

Added: Gotta love 'em. Look at Number 4.

Then look at the release notes for the patch that fixed Misfortune Cookie on this router:

1. "Solved the problem that the login interface can't save the password correctly in Chrome and Firefox."

Edited April 19, 2015 by Chicog