My Drive On Council Land

[jayenram]

Before I even consider engaging the services of a lawyer, I wondered whether there was any experiences on this forum.

When we built our house there was a rough verge (approx 2.00 m) between the boundary of our land and the concrete road through the village. We extended our concrete drive as a ramp to butt up with the edge of the roadway.

Recently, the 'council' decided that a new drain was required along the road and installed same along aformentioned verge consequently needing to cut a trench through my drive. When they came to 'reinstate' the verge, they actually widened the road by concreting over the trench thereby leaving me with a 150 mm step to my drive (as per attached sketch). We have been told that they cannot re-form the original ramp as it will extend into the 'new' road (and neither can we do it ourselves).

The only solution in my opinion is to cut back into my original drive and form a new, probably steeper, ramp, not an easy or cheap solution.

My question is: "do I have any come back on the 'council' to have this w*rk carried out?"

drive.ppt

Edited September 6, 2006 by jayenram

[astral]

The only solution in my opinion is to cut back into my original drive and form a new, probably steeper, ramp, not an easy or cheap solution.

I expect this will be your only option

Are there any other properties with the same problem?

Watch what they do. Thais can be quite devious...............

The properties on our estate all have drives that cross the pavement (sidewalk).

When we widened our gate to allow two vehicles, no-one bothered us about the additional pavement that was lost.

[trajan]

Thais can be quite devious...............

The properties on our estate all have drives that cross the pavement (sidewalk).

When we widened our gate to allow two vehicles, no-one bothered us about the additional pavement that was lost.

sounds like you are the devious one

[backflip]

"My question is: 'do I have any come back on the 'council' to have this w*rk carried out?'"

My question is: why did you use an asterisk in the word "work"?

[trajan]

Before I even consider engaging the services of a lawyer, I wondered whether there was any experiences on this forum.

When we built our house there was a rough verge (approx 2.00 m) between the boundary of our land and the concrete road through the village. We extended our concrete drive as a ramp to butt up with the edge of the roadway.

Recently, the 'council' decided that a new drain was required along the road and installed same along aformentioned verge consequently needing to cut a trench through my drive. When they came to 'reinstate' the verge, they actually widened the road by concreting over the trench thereby leaving me with a 150 mm step to my drive (as per attached sketch). We have been told that they cannot re-form the original ramp as it will extend into the 'new' road (and neither can we do it ourselves).

The only solution in my opinion is to cut back into my original drive and form a new, probably steeper, ramp, not an easy or cheap solution.

My question is: "do I have any come back on the 'council' to have this w*rk carried out?"

do you know if you have a recorded "right-of-way" easement over the immediate adjacent land that serves as the village road? if not, you may not have much argument & might be stuck using your own land to serve as the ramped driveway...

if you buy a house within a village/community, it may be prudent to insist (before you buy--when you have negotating leverage) to have an easement recorded on the internal private road land (in favor of your own parcel of land) all the way to the public road access.....that way no one in future can deny you access (or otherwise restrict or condition your access) to the public road....

[peterjackson]

Hey

As Trajan says, always negotiate all the eventualities when you have the upper hand (before purchasing), your never in a good negotiating position, when you are the property owner.

I would say at this point, you are going to be left with having to use your own land for the ramp.

If you could lower the lever of the land on your property, then the gradient for the new ramp, won't need to be as high, if that is at all possible.

Kind regards

Peter

[jayenram]

The only solution in my opinion is to cut back into my original drive and form a new, probably steeper, ramp, not an easy or cheap solution.

I expect this will be your only option

Are there any other properties with the same problem?

Watch what they do. Thais can be quite devious...............

Other properties are either at road level or have only gravel drives.

Anyway, I've bitten the bullet and am currently having the ramp reinstated at my own cost. They've cut back about 600 mm and, using the original steel, are concreting as we speak. Bht 2,000.00.

[jayenram]

"My question is: 'do I have any come back on the 'council' to have this w*rk carried out?'"

My question is: why did you use an asterisk in the word "work"?

It's a throw back from the early days of the O.F.C.S.

"Please comply with the chat rules and refrain from using profanities, e.g. w*rk, j*b, t*x, s*briety, etc."

[Pink Mist]

"My question is: 'do I have any come back on the 'council' to have this w*rk carried out?'"

My question is: why did you use an asterisk in the word "work"?

It's a throw back from the early days of the O.F.C.S.

"Please comply with the chat rules and refrain from using profanities, e.g. w*rk, j*b, t*x, s*briety, etc."

he means WORK JOB TAX SOBRIETY, all his sworn enemies

[chownah]

I'm not sure of the exact geometry of this road work in relation to your property but before you do anything you should consider if you will be making a channel for roadway runoff (when it rains) to flow onto your property causing flooding.

[jayenram]

Before and after pictures:

[peterjackson]

Hey

I must admit that from the pictures, it appears that the work carried out by the council on the road, does look like a big improvement on what you had their previously.

I think the new finished job is much better than the previous road.

Hope you're happy with the outcome.

Kind regards

Peter

[jayenram]

I returned home on Sunday evening after a downpour to find about 75 mm of standing water on the road outside my house. The water was actually overflowing from the drain manholes.

Attached sketch of how I see it. Note, the ends of the drain, which is approximately 500 metres long, are blocked off. Don't you just love Khmer hydraulic design?

drain.ppt

[Chris.B]

[Anyway, I've bitten the bullet and am currently having the ramp reinstated at my own cost. They've cut back about 600 mm and, using the original steel, are concreting as we speak. Bht 2,000.00.

From the look of the quality of your gates, railings and walls I don't think 2000 baht will break you.

[jayenram]

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QUOTE(Chris.B @ 2006-10-06 18:13:50) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

From the look of the quality of your gates, railings and walls I don't think 2000 baht will break you.

The final bill was bht 2,300.00 which equates to 8.50 cases of Archa!

[Chris.B]

The final bill was bht 2,300.00 which equates to 8.50 cases of Archa!

Archa ... thats a new one on me, just looked it up, a cheap beer by the the Beer Chang brewers! and I thought Beer Chang was cheap!!

[astral]

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QUOTE(Chris.B @ 2006-10-07 19:34:08) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The final bill was bht 2,300.00 which equates to 8.50 cases of Archa!

Archa ... thats a new one on me, just looked it up, a cheap beer by the the Beer Chang brewers! and I thought Beer Chang was cheap!!

Quite tasty as well.

[jayenram]

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QUOTE(Chris.B @ 2006-10-07 18:34:08) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The final bill was bht 2,300.00 which equates to 8.50 cases of Archa!

Archa ... thats a new one on me, just looked it up, a cheap beer by the the Beer Chang brewers! and I thought Beer Chang was cheap!!

Take a close look at my avatar. It's been the same for months.

Anyway, yes; Archa is brewed by the same brewer as *Chang*. *Chang* measures out at 6.4% ABV whilst Archa is 5.4% ABV.