Lite Beer Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 More officials suspected of corruption to be suspendedTHE SUNDAY NATION BANGKOK: -- MORE civil servants facing investigation for corruption and fraud are likely to be suspended from work in the coming week.Their names will be submitted to Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha, said a source at the Public Sector Anti-Corruption Commission.Earlier, Prayut used his powers under Article 44 to suspend 45 civil servants being investigated for corruption. Their respective ministries have been told to complete their investigations as quickly as possible and if found guilty those civil servants must be punished.The source said the civil servants were also facing criminal offences and were being examined by other anti-fraud agencies such as the National Anti-Corruption Commission and the Office of the Auditor-General, who were going ahead with their investigations.The source said some of the civil servants had been found guilty but were yet to be punished, although under Article 44 their respective ministries must punish them.The source said that a host of civil servants in the Ministry of Tourism and Sport were being probed for their alleged involvement in the ministry's purchase of fitness equipment and other sports-related equipment at unusually high prices - some reportedly at 10 times the market price.A political scientist from Midnight University, Chamnan Junrueng, said the Prayut's need to use powers under Article 44 reflected the failure of the public sector to self-regulate.However, he said the investigations should be left to the public sector, although improvements in the investigative process and personnel should be made.He said in the past the process had been done deliberately slowly because investigators had conflict of interest.However, he said the use of powers under Article 44 to suspend the civil servants might be unjust because not all of them had been found guilty. The suspensions might result in people permanently being tarnished even if they were found innocent, he said. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/More-officials-suspected-of-corruption-to-be-suspe-30260268.html -- The Nation 2015-05-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricBerg Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Name them, shame them, imprison them. That's the only effective way of fighting corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 SUSPECTED ! just prove it, then sack and jail the bastards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiddlesticks Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 You know, it would just be a hell of a lot easier if they would just identify the two or three NON-corrupt officials in Thailand and then just transfer all the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Oh the horror! Punished by being moved to an "inactive post" where there will be no money-making opportunities......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireMedic Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selftaopath Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Name them, shame them, imprison them. That's the only effective way of fighting corruption. Yes. AND confiscate all ill gotten gains. Take the money. Take the lands. Take the properties. Take it all if gotten from corruption. DO IT. Don't just talk talk talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) Name them, shame them, imprison them. That's the only effective way of fighting corruption. Yes. AND confiscate all ill gotten gains. Take the money. Take the lands. Take the properties. Take it all if gotten from corruption. DO IT. Don't just talk talk talk. You are so right but talk is useful to make it look and sound as if something is being done while gently pushing everything to the slow back burner. Festina Lente ( to make haste SLOWLY ) ! Edited May 17, 2015 by NongKhaiKid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 The whole problem of corruption here is that,the people that are corrupt have no real fear, even when they get caught at it, they know they will be no real investigation,no real punishment, a slap on the wrist and moved to inactive post(for a while),as if real steps were taken to end corruption,taking a few small corrupt people from the base of the Everest that is corruption here,could bring the whole corrupt system come crashing down, this would effect some very influential people,in all walks of life,and thats why its never really taken seriously. regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Unfortunately, corruption is considered a legitimate way to make money here. It goes all the way to the top. Polls taken have confirmed that this is the common attitude. When anti-corruption measures have to be taken for appearances (face-saving), a few small fry are thrown to the dogs, but, the big players remain untouchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 The whole problem of corruption here is that,the people that are corrupt have no real fear, even when they get caught at it, they know they will be no real investigation,no real punishment, a slap on the wrist and moved to inactive post(for a while),as if real steps were taken to end corruption,taking a few small corrupt people from the base of the Everest that is corruption here,could bring the whole corrupt system come crashing down, this would effect some very influential people,in all walks of life,and thats why its never really taken seriously. regards worgeordie I and others have said so many times that there's an unwritten rule of thumb that no severe punishment is handed out because one day those doling it out may need consideration themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rametindallas Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) Just curious, because I know that one of the main goals of the NCPO is to root out all Thaksin influence, if 'corruption' is a code word for 'Thaksin supporter'. Since all (or most all) higher ranked Civil Service are corrupt (they didn't get promoted by being sticklers for the rules), wouldn't this be a convenient/logical/opaque way to weed the Thaksin influence from the Civil Service? The ones they remove would be legitimately corrupt but the enforcement would be selective (like in everywhere else in the world). Since they aren't making the names public, yet, and they haven't announced how/why these particular individuals got on a corruption list (that should or could contain the names of 80% of the bureaucracy), it is too early to connect the dots or find out party sympathies. A clue would be if they were promoted during any of the Thaksin or Thaksin puppet government's terms in office as I'm sure Thaksin would use promotions as a reward for service to him and not promote those who support his opponents. Just speculation, for now. It is a shame there is no such thing as 'investigative journalism' here. Edited May 17, 2015 by rametindallas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Things are getting better now with this government Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prbkk Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Things are getting better now with this government Really? Or just a few tokens being swept under the carpet? Tokenism is useless....Thailand needs the Hong Kong and Singapore approach....zero tolerance ( but not just payback against political opponents). It might take 20 years or longer but it can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Things are getting better now with this government ?. Better if you are one of the boys ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Name them, shame them, imprison them. That's the only effective way of fighting corruption. Yes. AND confiscate all ill gotten gains. Take the money. Take the lands. Take the properties. Take it all if gotten from corruption. DO IT. Don't just talk talk talk. And from the wife, son, uncle, grandpa, maid, gardener unless they can proof where the money comes from. Homemaid with poor parents from Esaan usually don't have company shares worth x00 Millions..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Things are getting better now with this government Really? Or just a few tokens being swept under the carpet? Tokenism is useless....Thailand needs the Hong Kong and Singapore approach....zero tolerance ( but not just payback against political opponents). It might take 20 years or longer but it can be done. yes but it is a good beginning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveat Emptor Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 In a few months when the dust has settled how many will have seen the inside of a court ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Things are getting better now with this government Really? Or just a few tokens being swept under the carpet? Tokenism is useless....Thailand needs the Hong Kong and Singapore approach....zero tolerance ( but not just payback against political opponents). It might take 20 years or longer but it can be done. I'm sure there are plans to form a committee who will report on what a sub-committee has mulled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hgma Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Their names will be cleared as soon as 'democracy' will be restored in Thailand. The only way to keep them from re-apearing is isolation in jail. And even then................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsujin Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Just curious, because I know that one of the main goals of the NCPO is to root out all Thaksin influence, if 'corruption' is a code word for 'Thaksin supporter'. Since all (or most all) higher ranked Civil Service are corrupt (they didn't get promoted by being sticklers for the rules), wouldn't this be a convenient/logical/opaque way to weed the Thaksin influence from the Civil Service? The ones they remove would be legitimately corrupt but the enforcement would be selective (like in everywhere else in the world). Since they aren't making the names public, yet, and they haven't announced how/why these particular individuals got on a corruption list (that should or could contain the names of 80% of the bureaucracy), it is too early to connect the dots or find out party sympathies. A clue would be if they were promoted during any of the Thaksin or Thaksin puppet government's terms in office as I'm sure Thaksin would use promotions as a reward for service to him and not promote those who support his opponents. Just speculation, for now. It is a shame there is no such thing as 'investigative journalism' here. The timing of all these things is crucial if you look at the larger picture ... in the last 18 months, a massive increase in "unrest" in the South, massive "exposure" of all the human trafficking, Thaksin putting himself into the spotlight once again more recently, 100's of Police/Officials being arrested and charged, more charges against Yingluck ... all connected. There are a LOT (most) of Police and Government officials that owe their positions and "unusual wealth" to Thaksin, however I'm seeing at least a few of them breaking ranks and/or getting exposed and kicked out more recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Who is the one who submits the names, who choses the names? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdoglover Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 The Thai press has two modes of reporting: 1) Attending press conferences and reporting a string of quotes from officials 2) Opinion pieces Do you think you know what is really happening? if so, what is your basis for that belief? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Well if they clean up politics no one will run for Parliament they'll all be renting out jet skis at Patong Beach, Phuket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya28 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Never-Ending !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assurancetourix Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Name them, shame them, imprison them. That's the only effective way of fighting corruption. Yes. AND confiscate all ill gotten gains. Take the money. Take the lands. Take the properties. Take it all if gotten from corruption. DO IT. Don't just talk talk talk. You are so right but talk is useful to make it look and sound as if something is being done while gently pushing everything to the slow back burner. Festina Lente ( to make haste SLOWLY ) ! It's my signature.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffinator Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 MORE civil servants facing investigation for corruption and fraud are likely to be suspended from work in the coming week. So it's not concrete that they ARE corrupt or that they WILL be suspended? Why bother with this pursuit; why not quietly investigate and then make arrests. This only goes to show just how inept the powers that be are and the competence of the RTP. Seriously I think if you were to jail every corrupt cop, civil servant and politician you'd have to build a wall around Thailand and declare it a penal colony. Whilst there appears to be no end of the 'LISTS' most people know that this is only scratching the surface. Corruption in Thailand is inbred and they honestly think it's the god given right to steal when having reached a certain position. Of course it doesn't help that those positions are reached not my merit but by paying for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikeybkk Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Unfortunately, corruption is considered a legitimate way to make money here. It goes all the way to the top. Polls taken have confirmed that this is the common attitude. When anti-corruption measures have to be taken for appearances (face-saving), a few small fry are thrown to the dogs, but, the big players remain untouchable. hahahaha, the polls in this country are as corrupt as the civil servants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkapi Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Suspension is BULLSHIT. These people need prison time if anything is going to really change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tx22cb Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Any Generals, Admirals, Air Chief Marshals on these lists? Didn't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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