marmaduke Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Brought my Samsung HP-S5053 50" from America......Tried Samsung,Numchai, and then a Thai technician today but to no avail. Have the NTSC converter to PaL and still it won't work... Anyone have the technical know how to help with this conversion? http://www.cnet.com/products/samsung-hp-s5053/specs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Being US model it may also have electric issues - is it perhaps 60hz only? Could be some electronics are taking there clue from the power freq and messing things up? If specs state 50/60hz then that should not be the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) What are you trying to convert? Are you using component or HDMI?Added: I found I could just plug in media players and the like, but the only time I could get Satellite to play was converting HDMI to Component out, which defeats the object. Edited July 16, 2015 by Chicog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmaduke Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 Have the 220V converter box, works great,. Thats not the issue. Tried various connective options. Need someone with tech know how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Converter box if normal transformer does not change the frequency so if using line freq for electronics it will not work - does the model say 50/60hz or just 60hz in the electric input? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) The transformer and the converter are separate issues. Have you tried all component from source to TV via a converter? Added: can you set the source to NTSC? Edited July 16, 2015 by Chicog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrjlh Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) Just for grins, do you have the "manual"? I assume you do but jus in case here's the pdf file for it. Notice on page 136 it says: AC 110-230V±10%, 60H so maybe you do not need a converter but look at the label very carefully. Also does not indicate 50 hz. As someone indicated that may be your problem. Not sure if the file attached..... Edited July 16, 2015 by Mrjlh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmaduke Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 Just for grins, do you have the "manual"? I assume you do but jus in case here's the pdf file for it. Notice on page 136 it says: AC 110-230V±10%, 60H so maybe you do not need a converter but look at the label very carefully. Also does not indicate 50 hz. As someone indicated that may be your problem. Not sure if the file attached..... This is the converter I have, does not say 50hz, no markings but Amazon says it supports 60hz. Don't have the manual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Can you playback anything on your TV? From USB/Computer or anything? Can you see any display? TV sets have built in picture for set up and testing - can you even see that? From first post it appears you are not having any luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 If your TV is imported from America ( and assuming it isn't a multi-standard tv ) it uses the NTSC system why are you converting signals to PAL which it will not understand ? If you also imported you DVD,games console or whatever they would also be NTSC so no need to convert just plug straight in. If you want to plug in DVD, games console, sat receiver etc bought in Thailand you would need a PAL to NTSC converter If your TV is multi-standard PAL, NTSC ,SECAM then you won't need a converter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 If your TV is imported from America ( and assuming it isn't a multi-standard tv ) it uses the NTSC system why are you converting signals to PAL which it will not understand ? If you also imported you DVD,games console or whatever they would also be NTSC so no need to convert just plug straight in. If you want to plug in DVD, games console, sat receiver etc bought in Thailand you would need a PAL to NTSC converter If your TV is multi-standard PAL, NTSC ,SECAM then you won't need a converter. Looking at the spec it is NTSC only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmaduke Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 The TV is NTSC and ATSC and not multi standard. It can't just be a flip of a switch or we would have it set up already. If TV won't understand a PAL conversion and Thailand uses PAL , then how can this be done.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmaduke Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 John G , I already have the converter , it is worthless....Just getting confused some people say one thing and some another. It is NTSC to PAL.....were you saying it should be PAL to NTSC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 The TV is NTSC and ATSC and not multi standard. It can't just be a flip of a switch or we would have it set up already. If TV won't understand a PAL conversion and Thailand uses PAL , then how can this be done.? You need one /several PAL to NTSC converters, the converter you have at the moment is NTSC to PAL ( ie back to front ) Also as it has a ATSC tuner ( the American Digital TV system ) it will not receive Digital terrestrial TV in Thailand ( no English language channels anyway ) but may well work on a cable system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmaduke Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 Will it work with True Vision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) Your TV only understands NTSC all appliances sold in Thailand are PAL the converter you have is NTSC to PAL that wont work as the output is PAL not NTSC which your tv understands. You need one that does the conversion the other way from PAL which comes from say the DVD player and converts it to NTSC for your TV to display. It might work on truevisions cable network. Chicog said he couldn't get his to work with a satellite box using HDMI but it did work using a converter box HDMI -> Component RGB ? ( whats wrong with component anyway ? ) Edited July 16, 2015 by johng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digbeth Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Theoretically if you are connecting thru hdmi, NTSC/PAL shouldn't be an issue as the HDMI specification can handle both 50/60 framerate and output from True HD box should be at either 720p or 1080i, so the resolution is pretty standard and modern TV should be able to handle these okay, maybe PAL resolution of 576 throws the TV off? Did you try connecting local DVD players and see if it'll work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Does the true box allow PAL or NTSC output? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1950 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) Bringing a Plasma big screen TV from the US/Canada. Wrong in so many ways... Plasma screen (history) TV standard (NTSC input only) Input Voltage (110-230v AC, 60 Hz) Expensive shipping to Thailand (with possible Import duties) The True box usually isn't switchable. (PAL output only) Along with almost all devices sold here. If you brought other devices they probably aren't compatible with the input voltage/frequency. You would've been better off selling in US/Canada and buying a new one in Thailand! OP, your Aviator is so fitting! Edited July 18, 2015 by BB1950 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmaduke Posted July 18, 2015 Author Share Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) Bringing a Plasma big screen TV from the US/Canada. Wrong in so many ways... Plasma screen (history) TV standard (NTSC input only) Input Voltage (110-230v AC, 60 Hz) Expensive shipping to Thailand (with possible Import duties) The True box usually isn't switchable. (PAL output only) Along with almost all devices sold here. If you brought other devices they probably aren't compatible with the input voltage/frequency. You would've been better off selling in US/Canada and buying a new one in Thailand! OP, your Aviator is so fitting! BB, Ha Ha Ha you sound like my wife. Had the plasma in NYC it was awesome.....Brought the Plasma over in a container with many other items. I was looking for help not a critic Although, you do sound somewhat knowledgeable..I will try JohnG sugestion Any further help is much appreciated. Edited July 18, 2015 by Rimmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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