MH370: Part Found On Reunion Island Is From Missing Plane

[Tywais]

MH370: Part Found On Reunion Island Is From Missing Plane

The plane part that was found on a beach in the Indian Ocean was determined to be part of MH370, the Malaysia Airlines flight that vanished more than a year ago, Malaysia's prime minister said.

The debris is apparently the first piece of physical evidence recovered from the ill-fated plane, which disappeared on March 8, 2014 along with its 239 passengers and crew.

“It is with a very heavy heart that I must tell you, an international team of experts have conclusively confirmed that the aircraft debris found on Reunion is indeed from MH370,” Prime Minister Najib Razak said at a brief press conference. "We now have physical evidence that ... Flight MH370 tragically ended in the Southern Indian Ocean."

More here - Yahoo News

[Tywais]

MH370: Reunion debris is from missing plane

Part of the aircraft wing found on Reunion Island is from the missing MH370 plane, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak has confirmed.

Mr Najib said international experts examining the debris in France had "conclusively confirmed" it was from the aircraft.

The Malaysia Airlines plane carrying 239 people veered off course from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing in March 2014.

The debris was found on the remote French Indian Ocean island a week ago.

In a statement, Mr Najib said the "the burden and uncertainty faced by the families" in the 515 days since the aircraft disappeared had been "unspeakable".

"We now have physical evidence that flight MH370 tragically ended in the southern Indian Ocean," he added.

More here - BBC News

-- BBC August 6, 2015

[Tywais]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhzqVHkvTxM

[JakeSully]

Time for Reverse Engineers to reverse track the debris and find the plane.

I'm almost looking forward to a voice on the black box saying, "Up Yours!".

[webfact]

MH370
Indian Ocean wreckage is from MH370: Malaysian PM
The Star/ANN


Malaysia's Prime Minister Najib Razak, centre, delivers a statement on the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 days after the discovery of a washed-up plane part on the French Indian Ocean island of La Reunion during a press conference in Kuala Lumpur

PETALING JAYA - The aircraft debris which washed up on the French island of Reunion last week is from missing Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH370, Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak confirmed Thursday.

The following is the Prime Minister's statement in full:

PRIME MINISTER NAJIB TUN RAZAK'S STATEMENT ON MH370

On 8 March 2014, flight MH370 from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing disappeared. The days, weeks and months that followed have been a period of torment for the families of those on board.

The plane's disappearance was without precedent. At every stage, we followed the tiny amount of evidence that existed. But, despite the efforts of 26 nations and the largest search in aviation history, from the South China Sea to the Indian Ocean, the plane could not be located.

Neither could investigations by the world's leading aviation experts answer why MH370 veered off course and went dark. While the plane's disappearance remained a mystery, we have shared the anguish of those who could find no comfort.

Last week, on 29th July, we were informed by the French authorities that part of an aircraft wing had been found on Reunion, the French island in the Indian Ocean.

Today, 515 days since the plane disappeared, it is with a heavy heart that I must tell you that an international team of experts have conclusively confirmed that the aircraft debris found on Reunion Island is indeed from MH370.

We now have physical evidence that, as I announced on 24th March last year, flight MH370 tragically ended in the southern Indian Ocean.

This is a remote, inhospitable and dangerous area, and on behalf of Malaysia I would like to thank the many nations, organisations and individuals who have participated in the search.

The burden and uncertainty faced by the families during this time has been unspeakable. It is my hope that this confirmation, however tragic and painful, will at least bring certainty to the families and loved ones of the 239 people onboard MH370. They have our deepest sympathy and prayers.

I would like to assure all those affected by this tragedy that the government of Malaysia is committed to do everything within our means to find out the truth of what happened. MH370's disappearance marked us as a nation. We mourn with you, as a nation.

Source: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/846212-mh370-part-found-on-reunion-island-is-from-missing-plane/

-- The Nation 2015-08-06

[Carmine6]

Time for Reverse Engineers to reverse track the debris and find the plane.

I'm almost looking forward to a voice on the black box saying, "Up Yours!".

That would be pretty disturbing audio considering it would be mass murder out of spite.

At any rate, at the NY Times, they have a animated debris projection starting around where they are searching. The video won't upload here. Maybe wrong format. Some of the tracks end up close to the island but working backwards is basically going to give as broad a field as the possible source. They maybe will want to consider tweaking things, but it isn't inconsistent with the satellite ping data. They have some of the maps from 2014 search efforts on there also.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/03/16/world/asia/100000002773515.mobile.html

[Somtamnication]

Early into the pm's statement, many doubt what he is saying. Even the press conference an hour earlier by the experts did not state, emphatically, that it is from the plane. Let's wait a bit longer to hear from the experts.

[stoneyboy]

Early into the pm's statement, many doubt what he is saying. Even the press conference an hour earlier by the experts did not state, emphatically, that it is from the plane. Let's wait a bit longer to hear from the experts.

So there are possibly other aircraft ditched in the southern Indian Ocean in recent years are there of which it could belong ?

I'm no aviation expert but being a betting man I'd put this months salary on it being from that fateful plane.

Boeing 777 aircraft parts don't just turn up on remote islands.

Maybe it's a movie prop ?

[webfact]

Malaysian leader: Debris found on island is from Flight 370
By EILEEN NG

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) — A piece of a wing found washed up on Reunion Island last week is from Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 that vanished last year, Malaysia's prime minister announced early Thursday, saying he hoped the news would end the "unspeakable" uncertainty of the passengers' families.

The disappearance of the Boeing 777 jetliner 515 days ago while on a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on March 8, 2014, has been one of the biggest mysteries in aviation history. Officials believed it crashed in the southern Indian Ocean, killing all 239 people aboard, but it is still unknown why the plane went down.

"It is with a very heavy heart that I must tell you that an international team of experts has conclusively confirmed that the aircraft debris found on Reunion Island is indeed MH370," Prime Minister Najib Razak told reporters. The French territory is thousands of miles from the area being searched for wreckage from the flight.

U.S. and French officials involved in the investigation were more cautious, stopping short of full confirmation but saying it made sense that the metal piece of the wing, known as the flaperon, came from Flight 370.

The Australian government, which leads the seabed search for wreckage west of Australia, was also less certain than Malaysia, saying in a statement that "based on high probability, it is MH370."

Australia, which has sent an official to France to help examine the flaperon, has said the find will not affect its sonar search of a 120,000-square-kilometer (46,000-square-mile) expanse of seabed more than 4,000 kilometers (2,500 miles) east of Reunion Island.

That search, which began in October, has covered almost half that area without finding any clues.

"The fact that this wreckage does now look very much like it is from MH370 does seem to confirm that it went down in the Indian Ocean, it does seem very consistent with the search pattern that we've been using for the last few months," Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott told Melbourne Radio 3AW. "Let's hope we can turn something up."

Intact and encrusted with barnacles, the flaperon was found on a beach and sent to France for scrutiny by the French civil aviation investigation department known by its acronym BEA, and members from its Malaysian and Australian counterparts.

"We now have physical evidence that, as I announced on 24th March last year, flight MH370 tragically ended in the southern Indian Ocean," Najib said.

"The burden and uncertainty faced by the families during this time has been unspeakable. It is my hope that this confirmation, however tragic and painful, will at least bring certainty to the families and loved ones of the 239 people onboard MH370. They have our deepest sympathy and prayers," he said.

At a news conference in Paris, Deputy Prosecutor Serge Mackowiak didn't outright confirm that the debris belonged to Flight 370 but said there were strong indications that it was the case.

"The very strong conjectures are to be confirmed by complementary analysis that will begin tomorrow morning," Mackowiak said. "The experts are conducting their work as fast as they can in order to give complete and reliable information as quickly as possible."

A U.S. official familiar with the investigation said the flaperon clearly is from a Boeing 777. However, a team of experts in France examining the part hadn't yet been able to find anything linking it specifically to the missing plane, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because there was no authorization to talk publicly about the case.

With no other 777s or flaperons known to be missing, it makes sense that the part comes from Flight 370, but the U.S. and Boeing team members are merely trying "to be precise," the official said.

Analysts say the investigators will examine the metal with high-powered microscopes to gain insight into what caused the plane to go down. It is also not known why Flight 370 — less than an hour into the journey — turned back from its original flight path and headed in an opposite direction before turning left and flying south over the Indian Ocean for hours.

Malaysia Airlines said in a statement that relatives of the passengers and crew "have already been informed and we extend our deepest sympathies to those affected."

The statement said the finding was "indeed a major breakthrough for us in resolving the disappearance of MH370. We expect and hope that there would be more objects to be found which would be able to help resolve this mystery."

Jacquita Gomes, the wife of crew member Patrick Gomes, said she was informed by the airline of the news about a half-hour before Najib's announcement.

"Now that they have confirmed it as MH370, I know my husband is no longer of this world but they just can't leave it with this one flaperon. We urge them to continue searching until they find the plane and bring it back," she said.

"We still need to know what happened. They still need to find the plane. They still need to find the black box to get the truth out," she said. "It brings some sort of closure but not a complete closure. We don't know what happened and where the plane went down. It's not over yet."

Gomes said she hopes to get her husband's body back so that the family can give him a proper burial and say goodbye.

She said she watched the announcement on TV with one of her daughters, while her youngest child, a 15-year-old son, was asleep.

"My son doesn't know yet that his dad is really gone, that he won't be back," she said, in tears. "I will have to tell him tomorrow before he goes to school."

Highly technical efforts to extrapolate the jet's final hours before it would have run out of fuel gave force to the theory that it went down somewhere in the southern Indian Ocean.

No one is certain why the plane deviated so far from its planned route.

Analysts have said a close look at the wing part could indicate what kind of stress the plane was under as it made impact. It won't fully solve the mystery of why the plane disappeared, nor will it help pinpoint where the plane crashed.

A six-week air and sea search covering 4.6 million square kilometers (1.8 million square miles) of the southern Indian Ocean surface early last year failed to find any trace of the jetliner. The Reunion Island debris would be consistent with the working theory that the jet went down in the Indian Ocean and the debris was carried by the current, which moves counterclockwise.

Malaysian officials, who are leading the investigation into the plane's disappearance, have said the plane's movements were consistent with deliberate actions by someone on the plane, suggesting someone in the cockpit intentionally flew the aircraft off-course.

Since last year, Australian officials who are leading the search effort have operated on the theory that the plane flew on autopilot for hours before running out of fuel and crashing into the ocean. Investigators settled on that scenario after analyzing data exchanged between the plane and a satellite, which showed the jetliner took a straight path across the ocean. Australian Transport Safety Bureau chief commissioner Martin Dolan said last year that investigators assume the autopilot would have to have been manually switched on, again suggesting that someone in the cockpit deliberately steered the plane off-course.

In defining the search area, the Australian Transport Safety Bureau also operated on the theory that the crew was unresponsive, possibly suffering from oxygen deprivation, as the plane flew on autopilot. The agency said this was indicated by the loss of radio communications and a long period without any maneuvering of the plane, though it emphasized this was only a working theory and did not mean that accident investigators led by Malaysia would reach a similar conclusion.

A loss of cabin air pressure could cause oxygen deprivation, or hypoxia, which could make pilots unable to perform even basic tasks.

Some analysts argue that the apparent lack of damage to the piece of wreckage indicates a controlled landing on the ocean, with the jet sinking largely intact.

Another theory is that the jet plunged into the water vertically, snapping off both wings but preserving the fuselage. Yet another possibility, supported by a flight simulator, is that an out-of-fuel Boeing 777 would belly-flop heavily tail-first, disintegrating on impact.
___

Associated Press writers Paul Joshua in Kuala Lumpur, Thomas Adamson in Paris, Joan Lowy in Washington and Rod McGuirk in Canberra, Australia, contributed to this report.


-- (c) Associated Press 2015-08-06

[Carmine6]

Early into the pm's statement, many doubt what he is saying. Even the press conference an hour earlier by the experts did not state, emphatically, that it is from the plane. Let's wait a bit longer to hear from the experts.

So there are possibly other aircraft ditched in the southern Indian Ocean in recent years are there of which it could belong ?

I'm no aviation expert but being a betting man I'd put this months salary on it being from that fateful plane.

Boeing 777 aircraft parts don't just turn up on remote islands.

Maybe it's a movie prop ?

The story is no serial number was found, but there are marks consistent with it being a Malaysian Airlines plane. Some repair work or something was done to the flaperon. However, Boeing and the US NTSB are more cautious.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/08/06/world/asia/mh370-wing-reunion.html?referrer=

There are “very strong presumptions” that the airplane part that washed ashore last week on the French island of Réunion in the western Indian Ocean came from the missing Boeing 777, an official said on Wednesday at a Paris news conference after experts inspected the object.

A person involved in the investigation said, however, that experts from Boeing and the National Transportation Safety Board who had seen the object, a piece of what is known as a flaperon, were not yet fully satisfied, and called for further analysis.

Their doubts were based on a modification to the flaperon part that did not appear to exactly match what they would expect from airline maintenance records, according to the person, who was not authorized to discuss the matter publicly and requested anonymity. ...

...

[snip]

...

He [the deputy Paris prosecutor] said representatives from Boeing had confirmed that it came from a Boeing 777, based on its size, color, joint structure and other technical characteristics. He also said that “technical documentation” provided by Malaysia Airlines had enabled experts to establish “common technical characteristics” between the debris and Flight 370’s flaperons.

[lap82]

Couldn't be different. Hope it helps somehow to find the rest of the plane.

[boomerangutang]

All along I've maintained the plane's downing was a suicide/mass murder by pilot. Am just as certain now, as anytime earlier. And am 100% sure the downing of the Egypt Air plane in the Atlantic was also a suicide/mass murder by the Egyptian pilot. In both cases, the countries deny it. Is it a Muslim thing to deny the obvious, if it involves a fellow Muslim being a mass murderer?

[Tywais]

MH370: Drift modeling:

[IAMHERE]

So when is the prediction of debris washing ashore Madagascar ? Swaziland? South Africa ?

[than]

Early into the pm's statement, many doubt what he is saying. Even the press conference an hour earlier by the experts did not state, emphatically, that it is from the plane. Let's wait a bit longer to hear from the experts.

I think we not need to be expert to like this flaperon to MH370,

How many B777 has crashed in the past ?

4 B777 have been crashed in the world

and only one in Indian Ocean

[impulse]

Early into the pm's statement, many doubt what he is saying. Even the press conference an hour earlier by the experts did not state, emphatically, that it is from the plane. Let's wait a bit longer to hear from the experts.

I think we not need to be expert to like this flaperon to MH370,

How many B777 has crashed in the past ?

4 B777 have been crashed in the world

and only one in Indian Ocean

How many 777 spare parts destined to be melted down for scrap rolled off the back of a ship into the ocean?

Has the part been planted by nefarious entities to lead away from the truth?

There's a high probability it's from MH370. But it's not a certainty.

[Baerboxer]

All along I've maintained the plane's downing was a suicide/mass murder by pilot. Am just as certain now, as anytime earlier. And am 100% sure the downing of the Egypt Air plane in the Atlantic was also a suicide/mass murder by the Egyptian pilot. In both cases, the countries deny it. Is it a Muslim thing to deny the obvious, if it involves a fellow Muslim being a mass murderer?

You're also 100% sure you know who committed the murders on Koh Tao and what "really" happened.

Any thoughts for the lottery?

[webfact]

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) - Minister says Malaysian team collected plane window, other aircraft debris from Reunion Island.

[empireboy]

Some solid evidence at last. Closure can begin now for family and friends of those lost.

[Mudcrab]

The only facts in this story is that the Australian taxpayer is paying for the vast majority of the search costs of an accident involving a Malaysian aircraft containing mostly Chinese passengers.

[HooHaa]

Time for Reverse Engineers to reverse track the debris and find the plane.

I'm almost looking forward to a voice on the black box saying, "Up Yours!".

Why?

[HooHaa]

All along I've maintained the plane's downing was a suicide/mass murder by pilot. Am just as certain now, as anytime earlier. And am 100% sure the downing of the Egypt Air plane in the Atlantic was also a suicide/mass murder by the Egyptian pilot. In both cases, the countries deny it. Is it a Muslim thing to deny the obvious, if it involves a fellow Muslim being a mass murderer?

indeed, you wouldn't catch a depresed jewish fellow trying anything like that on.

oh, wait ....

Edited August 6, 2015 by HooHaa

[HooHaa]

The only facts in this story is that the Australian taxpayer is paying for the vast majority of the search costs of an accident involving a Malaysian aircraft containing mostly Chinese passengers.

so that's what the only facts is, is they?

thanks for clearing that up.

[stoneyboy]

The only facts in this story is that the Australian taxpayer is paying for the vast majority of the search costs of an accident involving a Malaysian aircraft containing mostly Chinese passengers.

so that's what the only facts is, is they?

thanks for clearing that up.

It's all of a bit of a hoo haa if you ask me.

[Inepto Cracy]

I do not believe one word from Malaysia, they lied from the very beginning. What about the 777 in Malaysian airlines colours that was found in a hanger in Israel? Could be used to cut parts off and dump it in the sea.

There are many models of how the sea currents go and the experts could easily work out how long a certain part would lie on the seabed before floating off to a land mass, such as Reunion.

Too many lies coming out of the mouths of politicians over there now.

Edited August 6, 2015 by Inepto Cracy

[Carmine6]

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) - Minister says Malaysian team collected plane window, other aircraft debris from Reunion Island.

Can't seem to find any reference to a window other than something reported from Aug. 4. If he is referring to this "window", he's a couple days behind the news. That object is much too small to be a window, and even one of the police on scene described it as possibly where the oxygen masks come out. Some people at airliners.net immediately said it appeared to be from a sewing machine, which appears correct as someone later posted a picture of a sewing machine with similar panel. Even the cutouts for the dials and the switch in the right hand side are similar. Also, note this was not found by a Malaysian team, but French. So both parts of the statement don't match. But where is the story on that "window" in that case?

Article discussing the finding of a possible "window"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3185019/Plane-window-washes-Reunion-Island-beach-French-military-continue-analyse-MH370-debris-reveal-details-plane-s-final-moments.html

Picture of sewing machine from post 86

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/6468166/1/#116

The French seem to be saying they are unaware of any new parts.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150806/missing_malaysian_plane-52520118ed.html

He also said more debris has been found on Reunion Island and was sent to local authorities for French investigators to examine. However, the Paris prosecutor's office, which is spearheading a French legal inquiry into the crash, denied that investigators had any new debris, and multiple French officials involved in the investigation in Reunion and in Paris said they also were unaware of a new discovery.

Edited August 7, 2015 by Carmine6

[boomerangutang]

Count on social media to find a match for that white plastic part. There's power in thousands of concerned folks putting their minds to something. Similarly, social media is proving that Thai police investigators are screwing-up the investigation of the two Brits who were killed at Ko Tao in Sept. '14. The police and a few of their defenders on T.Visa are angry at social media for exposing their cover-up.

[Chicog]

While investigators initially thought that the plane might have gone down quickly in a tight spiral, the debris that washed up on Reunion Island near Madagascar in the Indian Ocean last week suggests that the aircraft might have glided along after running out of fuel and descended slowly into the water.

The piece of the plane that was found, called a "flaperon," was likely "broken off by the engine pod ripping off as it was dragged through the water on the initial impact," Tracy Lamb, an aviation safety consultant and former Boeing 737 pilot, told Bloomberg.

"The speculation among pilots right now is that it must have come down at a relatively shallow angle," Lamb said.

Former US National Transportation Safety Board investigator Greg Feith told Bloomberg that since the piece is not "crushed," experts "can deduce it was either a low-energy crash or a low-energy intentional ditching."

Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/48388038.cms?&utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

Edited August 7, 2015 by Chicog

[simple1]

I do not believe one word from Malaysia, they lied from the very beginning. What about the 777 in Malaysian airlines colours that was found in a hanger in Israel? Could be used to cut parts off and dump it in the sea.

There are many models of how the sea currents go and the experts could easily work out how long a certain part would lie on the seabed before floating off to a land mass, such as Reunion.

Too many lies coming out of the mouths of politicians over there now.

When we are talking about an incident with major loss of life, I truly wish bottom feeder conspiracy trolls are banned.

[KarenBravo]

So when is the prediction of debris washing ashore Madagascar ? Swaziland? South Africa ?

Swaziland?

That ain't going to happen, it's a land-locked country.