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Jatuporn says draft charter designed to allow junta to stay in power
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- Red-shirt leader Jatuporn Promphan Monday criticised the draft charter, saying it has been designed to allow the National Council for Peace and Order to stay in power.

Jatuporn said the draft was written in a way to provoke its rejection by the National Reform Council so that the NCPO would remain in power longer.

But if the draft is passed, the NCPO would still be in power via the crisis panel or the National Strategic Reform and Reconciliation Committee (NSRRC), Jatuporn added.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Jatuporn-says-draft-charter-designed-to-allow-junt-30266739.html


-- The Nation 2015-08-17

[MaxLee]

Jatuporn says draft charter designed to allow junta to stay in power

The Nation

BANGKOK: -- Red-shirt leader Jatuporn Promphan Monday criticised the draft charter, saying it has been designed to allow the National Council for Peace and Order to stay in power.Jatuporn says draft charter designed to allow junta to stay in power

Well, that's what you get for abusing your powers and backstabbing the Nation along with your master in Dubai.... or in other words, that's what WE, the entire nation get as consequences...

[wil_he]

As I said in an earlier comment,everything is now"up for grabs" now that Mr.T is about to lose his police rank.The new charter does have a few contentious areas,but most of the whingeing is coming from one side of politics.Bears thinking about,I suppose.

[halloween]

Amazing how many times Thaksin's voice echoes.

Edited August 17, 2015 by halloween

[bangrak]

The comments of a Jatuporn and others of the same kind for whom 'democracy' never has been anything else than a banner behind which to hide dirty tricks to grab and hold on to power, by any and all means, sadly are the best legitimation there could be for this draft charter and that, yes, alas, 'largely' military committee designed to protect Thailand from a recurrence of the evils-of-the-past, and, alas too, also to keep the, medieval, 'system' firmly in place with the military on top of the fray.

The red shirts movement missed a huge opportunity to change things for the better in Thailand, by being the tender to the Shins' loc', and by turning to (extreme) violence, alas once more, but much too late to amend now (and visibly they still don't 'have seen the light' today).

[tbthailand]

shoot the messenger. ...

again and again and again...

[petedk]

Amazing how many times Thaksin's voice echoes.

You beat me to it.

[ratcatcher]

"Yingluck criticises draft charter"

"Natthawut says no to national reconciliation government"

"Jatuporn says draft charter designed to allow govt to stay in power"

Looks like they're all on the same page with this.

[Baerboxer]

"Yingluck criticises draft charter"ys.jpg

"Natthawut says no to national reconciliation government"nat.jpg

"Jatuporn says draft charter designed to allow govt to stay in power" jat.jpg

Looks like they're all on the same page with this. thakclap.jpg

You forgot the Pol.General Acting leader of PTP. He said the same too.

A multiple puppet trick from the master.

[elgordo38]

They should stay in power because Thais are not mature enough to govern themselves with out self destructing. They are like a bunch of sniveling spoiled children that need their asses beat........................

I can get a bit rangy in my posts at times but I think your way over the top. Yes the culture here can be challenging at times but hey your going to extremes. There is enough blame to go around on all sides. I do not see any self destructing only a class of people trying to better themselves in a country where the educational system is really suspect whether natural or by design and I think the later. Walk a mile in their shoes get up every morning and work till dark for a few hundred bahts. The system here is work or die no third choices like our home countries with subsidies, food stamps, welfare government assistance for almost everything. Our home countries are not hitting any home runs in the governing department. Why do you think they are asking for change from all the candidates who are mouthing the same past promises that destroyed the middle class.

[bangarang]

And now there was a bomb in bangkok... coincidence?

[Srikcir]

It's been about a week now regarding the draft charter provisions for the National Strategic Reform and Reconciliation Committee and we've heard from many of the top PTP leadership and academics criticizing it.

But the silence from the Democrat leadership is deafening.

In his defense of the Interim Charter Article 44 Abhisit expressed support that the military Junta retaining special power to intervene in the event of "chaos" is acceptable. But this time he may be more cautious about on how to spin powers of the NSRRC to override an elected government until he has assurances he wouldn't be the one being overriden.

[rubl]

shoot the messenger. ...

again and again and again...

True, true. If only no one had opposed that blanket amnesty bill

Meanwhile, this Friday afternoon Thammasat Students staged a protest outside Pheu Thai head quarters saying the blanket amnesty bill distorted and subverted rule of law.

Those are the students some praised for standing up for democracy a month ago.

[LannaGuy]

and he's right of course... but you haters will never admit it

[scorecard]

It's been about a week now regarding the draft charter provisions for the National Strategic Reform and Reconciliation Committee and we've heard from many of the top PTP leadership and academics criticizing it.

But the silence from the Democrat leadership is deafening.

In his defense of the Interim Charter Article 44 Abhisit expressed support that the military Junta retaining special power to intervene in the event of "chaos" is acceptable. But this time he may be more cautious about on how to spin powers of the NSRRC to override an elected government until he has assurances he wouldn't be the one being overriden.

Big yawn.

[rubl]

and he's right of course... but you haters will never admit it

Also non-haters wonder about his reasoning.

[derator01]

Several posts violating forum rules have been removed from view. Along with associated replies.

[MZurf]

It's been about a week now regarding the draft charter provisions for the National Strategic Reform and Reconciliation Committee and we've heard from many of the top PTP leadership and academics criticizing it.

But the silence from the Democrat leadership is deafening.

In his defense of the Interim Charter Article 44 Abhisit expressed support that the military Junta retaining special power to intervene in the event of "chaos" is acceptable. But this time he may be more cautious about on how to spin powers of the NSRRC to override an elected government until he has assurances he wouldn't be the one being overriden.

Big yawn.

Wow! That's such a politically astute post. Succinct and to the point.

BTW, what did you mean by it??

[rubl]

It's been about a week now regarding the draft charter provisions for the National Strategic Reform and Reconciliation Committee and we've heard from many of the top PTP leadership and academics criticizing it.

But the silence from the Democrat leadership is deafening.

In his defense of the Interim Charter Article 44 Abhisit expressed support that the military Junta retaining special power to intervene in the event of "chaos" is acceptable. But this time he may be more cautious about on how to spin powers of the NSRRC to override an elected government until he has assurances he wouldn't be the one being overriden.

Big yawn.

Wow! That's such a politically astute post. Succinct and to the point.

BTW, what did you mean by it??

Probably the ability of rickers to forget that the draft charter was made available in April and many already commented on it months ago without waiting for the go-ahead signal of a criminal fugitive.

[MaxLee]

And now there was a bomb in bangkok... coincidence?

Not really, as I need to add the Thaksin Police Rank issue as well..... , Mr. Holmes

[MZurf]

It's been about a week now regarding the draft charter provisions for the National Strategic Reform and Reconciliation Committee and we've heard from many of the top PTP leadership and academics criticizing it.

But the silence from the Democrat leadership is deafening.

In his defense of the Interim Charter Article 44 Abhisit expressed support that the military Junta retaining special power to intervene in the event of "chaos" is acceptable. But this time he may be more cautious about on how to spin powers of the NSRRC to override an elected government until he has assurances he wouldn't be the one being overriden.

Big yawn.

Wow! That's such a politically astute post. Succinct and to the point.

BTW, what did you mean by it??

Probably the ability of rickers to forget that the draft charter was made available in April and many already commented on it months ago without waiting for the go-ahead signal of a criminal fugitive.

Thanks for clearing that up, but do you mean that nothing has changed in the draft charter since then - minor, insignificant things like the introduction of NSRCC???

On, and must have felt good saying "criminal fugitive" for the millionth time.

[millwall_fan]

The Elite know their 'Democrat' puppets can never win an election, so they will try to give themselves enough reserve powers in this new constitution to ensure they can overturn any policy of an elected government that they don't like. This after they already tried to achieve that in the 2007 constitution.

[rubl]

The Elite know their 'Democrat' puppets can never win an election, so they will try to give themselves enough reserve powers in this new constitution to ensure they can overturn any policy of an elected government that they don't like. This after they already tried to achieve that in the 2007 constitution.

A few questions if I may.

- who are 'The Elite' ?

- who are the 'democrat' puppets?

- what in the 2007 constitution points to 'achieving' a similar result in possibly in the new draft charter?

[rubl]

Probably the ability of rickers to forget that the draft charter was made available in April and many already commented on it months ago without waiting for the go-ahead signal of a criminal fugitive.

Thanks for clearing that up, but do you mean that nothing has changed in the draft charter since then - minor, insignificant things like the introduction of NSRCC???

On, and must have felt good saying "criminal fugitive" for the millionth time.

Well, we don't know do we.

"THE Constitution Drafting Committee says it will not publicly disclose the content of the draft charter until it submits the document to the National Reform Council."

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/849207-cdc-refuses-to-reveal-content-of-thai-charter/

[LannaGuy]

The Elite know their 'Democrat' puppets can never win an election, so they will try to give themselves enough reserve powers in this new constitution to ensure they can overturn any policy of an elected government that they don't like. This after they already tried to achieve that in the 2007 constitution.

A few questions if I may.

- who are 'The Elite' ?

- who are the 'democrat' puppets?

- what in the 2007 constitution points to 'achieving' a similar result in possibly in the new draft charter?

1/ you know the answer but 'pretend' there is no amaart or hierarchy

2/ you know who they are but 'pretend' that the Dems are not intrinsically linked to 1/ above

3/ you know the 2007 constitution was 'Hobson's Choice' and no real choice at all (as will be this 'new' Charter)

[scorecard]

It's been about a week now regarding the draft charter provisions for the National Strategic Reform and Reconciliation Committee and we've heard from many of the top PTP leadership and academics criticizing it.

But the silence from the Democrat leadership is deafening.

In his defense of the Interim Charter Article 44 Abhisit expressed support that the military Junta retaining special power to intervene in the event of "chaos" is acceptable. But this time he may be more cautious about on how to spin powers of the NSRRC to override an elected government until he has assurances he wouldn't be the one being overriden.

Big yawn.

Wow! That's such a politically astute post. Succinct and to the point.

BTW, what did you mean by it??

More big yawn.

[MZurf]

It's been about a week now regarding the draft charter provisions for the National Strategic Reform and Reconciliation Committee and we've heard from many of the top PTP leadership and academics criticizing it.

But the silence from the Democrat leadership is deafening.

In his defense of the Interim Charter Article 44 Abhisit expressed support that the military Junta retaining special power to intervene in the event of "chaos" is acceptable. But this time he may be more cautious about on how to spin powers of the NSRRC to override an elected government until he has assurances he wouldn't be the one being overriden.

Big yawn.

Wow! That's such a politically astute post. Succinct and to the point.

BTW, what did you mean by it??

More big yawn.

We're obviously dealing with one of the intelectual giants of TVF.

[ginjag]

The Elite know their 'Democrat' puppets can never win an election, so they will try to give themselves enough reserve powers in this new constitution to ensure they can overturn any policy of an elected government that they don't like. This after they already tried to achieve that in the 2007 constitution.

A few questions if I may.

- who are 'The Elite' ?

- who are the 'democrat' puppets?

- what in the 2007 constitution points to 'achieving' a similar result in possibly in the new draft charter?

He has no Idea he is a Millwall fan, lol. most of their supporters are similar to Jutaporn.

[ginjag]

It's been about a week now regarding the draft charter provisions for the National Strategic Reform and Reconciliation Committee and we've heard from many of the top PTP leadership and academics criticizing it.

But the silence from the Democrat leadership is deafening.

In his defense of the Interim Charter Article 44 Abhisit expressed support that the military Junta retaining special power to intervene in the event of "chaos" is acceptable. But this time he may be more cautious about on how to spin powers of the NSRRC to override an elected government until he has assurances he wouldn't be the one being overriden.

Big yawn.

Wow! That's such a politically astute post. Succinct and to the point.

BTW, what did you mean by it??

More big yawn.

Do you realise that you and Rube are intellectual giants- lol

[MZurf]

It's been about a week now regarding the draft charter provisions for the National Strategic Reform and Reconciliation Committee and we've heard from many of the top PTP leadership and academics criticizing it.

But the silence from the Democrat leadership is deafening.

In his defense of the Interim Charter Article 44 Abhisit expressed support that the military Junta retaining special power to intervene in the event of "chaos" is acceptable. But this time he may be more cautious about on how to spin powers of the NSRRC to override an elected government until he has assurances he wouldn't be the one being overriden.

Big yawn.

Wow! That's such a politically astute post. Succinct and to the point.

BTW, what did you mean by it??

More big yawn.

Do you realise that you and Rube are intellectual giants- lol

LMAO! Stop - you're killing me ginjag!

BTW, who is Rube?