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Min of Energy set to enhance nation’s electricity transmission



BANGKOK, 21 August 2015 (NNT) – The Ministry of Energy is set to enhance the country’s electricity supply in many regions for long-tern energy security, a top EPPO official says.

Mr. Twarath Sutabutr, Director-General of the Energy Policy and Planning Office (EPPO) has revealed that the country’s current capacity in power transmission is not sufficient for national development and unable to cushion additional electricity transmission from alternative energy sources to be supplied by the private sector in the long run.

He said the EPPO had discussed the problem with the Electricity Generating Authority of Thailand (EGAT) and both sides agreed that a 500 kilowatt transmission system be built urgently to facilitate energy transmission and accommodate the ASEAN electricity network.

The EPPO Director-General said that its transmission system enhancement plan had gone through Cabinet consideration twice, in August 2014 and July 2015. The project involves construction of six new transmission systems in three regions, namely the Northeast, the central region and the South. Once completed, the whole system will allow the country to receive 5,180 megawatts of electricity in the form of alternative energy nationwide.

The construction of new transmission lines in the specified regions will begin at different phases with the most recent one to begin next year in Ubon Ratchathani, Roi Et, and Chaiyaphum at the length of 348 kilometres.


-- NNT 2015-08-21

[PETERTHEEATER]

........system will allow the country to receive 5,180 megawatts of electricity in the form of alternative energy nationwide.

The alternative energy being? The sun shining on the new pylons and cables? The wind turbines so far off-shore that they cannot be seen? The coal fired generating plants which no one wants?

[jcisco]

Great news I've been saying this for ages, they do still however have a strategic generation capability shortfall.

Why on earth they haven't looked into several 40MW+ garbage powered capable incinerators power plants running two turbines each strewn around the country, kills two birds with one stone. Expensive, but then so are 3 subs

[jacko45k]

Great news I've been saying this for ages, they do still however have a strategic generation capability shortfall.

Why on earth they haven't looked into several 40MW+ garbage powered capable incinerators power plants running two turbines each strewn around the country, kills two birds with one stone. Expensive, but then so are 3 subs

Because they are not particularly productive and expensive to feed, like wind-turbines they are expensive and purely for political aesthetics.

Carbon fuels are falling in price and should be considered. One single power station with say 3 turbines can probably produce 600+MW, and likely cleaner than 15 garbage burning incinerators can.

[selftaopath]

........system will allow the country to receive 5,180 megawatts of electricity in the form of alternative energy nationwide.

The alternative energy being? The sun shining on the new pylons and cables? The wind turbines so far off-shore that they cannot be seen? The coal fired generating plants which no one wants?

I've often wondered what stymies a genuine push into solar energy. Hell, Thailand is certainly sunny enough to warrant it.

[selftaopath]

Great news I've been saying this for ages, they do still however have a strategic generation capability shortfall.

Why on earth they haven't looked into several 40MW+ garbage powered capable incinerators power plants running two turbines each strewn around the country, kills two birds with one stone. Expensive, but then so are 3 subs

Humnnnnnnn maybe because any change would require creativity, inertia, and effort. LOL can they be found easily in stagnant old Thailand?

And besides they must protect their system, and those who benefit from the status quo. Who really cares about the country when ME mentality is first and foremost.

[steven100]

Waste to Energy is the only choice this country needs to take.

Now there is a new gasification process that eliminates any bad air pollutants ... near zero emissions.

This is a waste to electricity system that will revolutionize the way we manage waste.

There is literally tons & tons of garbage that need to be disposed of and current methods are harmful to the environment and are not suitable. Landfill is certainly not the answer ... but DGU's are !! Deployable Gasification Unit ...

Deployable Gasification Units (DGUs)

Cirque Energy, in conjunction with Northrop Grumman Corporation have jointly developed a Deployable Gasification Unit (DGU) for sale to military, government, industrial and commercial customers. The DGUs utililize Cirque Energy's gasification and syngas condition technology, couple with conventional reciprocating engine generator technology. Any carbon-based waste stream (MSW, biomass, etc) of approximately 2-10 tons per day can be cleanly and efficiently turned into combined heat and power (CHP) energy.

How Does it work?

Gasification is incomplete combustion of carbon-based fuel in a starved air environment, producing combustible gases (syngas):

Carbon monoxide (CO), Hydrogen (H2) and Methane (CH4)

Syngas is cooled and scrubbed for use in internal combustion diesel generator

IC generator uses a mixture of up to 70-80% syngas, with balance diesel

Gasification is incomplete combustion of a carbon-based fuel in a starved air environment, producing combustible gases (syngas):

• Carbon monoxide (CO), Hydrogen (H2) and Methane (CH4)
• Syngas is cooled and scrubbed for use in internal combustion diesel generator
• The internal combustion generator uses a mixture of up to 70-80% syngas, with balance diesel or natural gas

True fuel flexibility

• Not limited to just woody biomass like other small-scale gasification systems
• Capable of using any mixed waste stream: MSW, biomass, agriculture waste
• No fuel pre-processing required, i.e. no sorting, special handling, or pelletizing

Scalable solution

• 2 - 10 tons waste per day, resulting in 150-750 kw electric generation plus thermal energy
• High efficiency of nearly 90% when using available waste heat in CHP mode

Redundant and capable of using fossil fuels

• Systems can provide 100% of their design capacity on traditional fossil fuels (diesel or natural gas) when not operated in gasifier mode. This means high reliability and uptime for end users, regardless of the fuel situation.

DGUs for the Military

For the Military, mobility is key

• Two 20’ ISO containers
• PLS transportable
• CH-47 and cargo planes

Operational simplicity

• Startup <2 hours
• No additional personnel
• Use JP-8 (diesel) when solid fuel is not available
• Seamless transition from diesel to syngas, and back
• No special preparation of solid fuel required

DGUs for Commercial and Industry

Non-miliatary applications

• Commercial user or industrial plant with a constant electric demand of at least 200 kW, thermal demand, and a solid waste stream
• Ideal for the MUSH market – municipalities, universities, schools, and hospitals. All of these users typically have a backup generator and an electric demand that must be secure and reliable. All typically have a waste stream.

A commercial DGU can provide:

• Energy Security and Independence
• Cost savings and a buffer from constantly rising utility rates
• Reduce or eliminate waste disposal costs
• Renewable energy!

Availability

Manufacturing Plan

• Gasifier and Gas Cleanup sub-systems manufactured by Cirque Energy
• Overall system manufacturing and final assembly by Northrop Grumman

Testing and Certification

• Full-scale military and commercial prototype systems built
• Extended duration testing and third party certification
• Air emissions testing and certification
• Military demonstrations and shakedowns

Edited August 22, 2015 by steven100

[h90]

Waste to Energy is the only choice this country needs to take.

Now there is a new gasification process that eliminates any bad air pollutants ... near zero emissions.

This is a waste to electricity system that will revolutionize the way we manage waste.

There is literally tons & tons of garbage that need to be disposed of and current methods are harmful to the environment and are not suitable. Landfill is certainly not the answer ... but DGU's are !! Deployable Gasification Unit ...

Deployable Gasification Units (DGUs)

Cirque Energy, in conjunction with Northrop Grumman Corporation have jointly developed a Deployable Gasification Unit (DGU) for sale to military, government, industrial and commercial customers. The DGUs utililize Cirque Energy's gasification and syngas condition technology, couple with conventional reciprocating engine generator technology. Any carbon-based waste stream (MSW, biomass, etc) of approximately 2-10 tons per day can be cleanly and efficiently turned into combined heat and power (CHP) energy.

How Does it work?

Gasification is incomplete combustion of carbon-based fuel in a starved air environment, producing combustible gases (syngas):

Carbon monoxide (CO), Hydrogen (H2) and Methane (CH4)

Syngas is cooled and scrubbed for use in internal combustion diesel generator

IC generator uses a mixture of up to 70-80% syngas, with balance diesel

Gasification is incomplete combustion of a carbon-based fuel in a starved air environment, producing combustible gases (syngas):

• Carbon monoxide (CO), Hydrogen (H2) and Methane (CH4)
• Syngas is cooled and scrubbed for use in internal combustion diesel generator
• The internal combustion generator uses a mixture of up to 70-80% syngas, with balance diesel or natural gas

True fuel flexibility

• Not limited to just woody biomass like other small-scale gasification systems
• Capable of using any mixed waste stream: MSW, biomass, agriculture waste
• No fuel pre-processing required, i.e. no sorting, special handling, or pelletizing

Scalable solution

• 2 - 10 tons waste per day, resulting in 150-750 kw electric generation plus thermal energy
• High efficiency of nearly 90% when using available waste heat in CHP mode

Redundant and capable of using fossil fuels

• Systems can provide 100% of their design capacity on traditional fossil fuels (diesel or natural gas) when not operated in gasifier mode. This means high reliability and uptime for end users, regardless of the fuel situation.

DGUs for the Military

For the Military, mobility is key

• Two 20’ ISO containers
• PLS transportable
• CH-47 and cargo planes

Operational simplicity

• Startup <2 hours
• No additional personnel
• Use JP-8 (diesel) when solid fuel is not available
• Seamless transition from diesel to syngas, and back
• No special preparation of solid fuel required

DGUs for Commercial and Industry

Non-miliatary applications

• Commercial user or industrial plant with a constant electric demand of at least 200 kW, thermal demand, and a solid waste stream
• Ideal for the MUSH market – municipalities, universities, schools, and hospitals. All of these users typically have a backup generator and an electric demand that must be secure and reliable. All typically have a waste stream.

A commercial DGU can provide:

• Energy Security and Independence
• Cost savings and a buffer from constantly rising utility rates
• Reduce or eliminate waste disposal costs
• Renewable energy!

Availability

Manufacturing Plan

• Gasifier and Gas Cleanup sub-systems manufactured by Cirque Energy
• Overall system manufacturing and final assembly by Northrop Grumman

Testing and Certification

• Full-scale military and commercial prototype systems built
• Extended duration testing and third party certification
• Air emissions testing and certification
• Military demonstrations and shakedowns

New marketing, that is the only new thing......It was already used in the second Worldwar by the Germans.

[steven100]

Waste to Energy is the only choice this country needs to take.

Now there is a new gasification process that eliminates any bad air pollutants ... near zero emissions.

This is a waste to electricity system that will revolutionize the way we manage waste.

There is literally tons & tons of garbage that need to be disposed of and current methods are harmful to the environment and are not suitable. Landfill is certainly not the answer ... but DGU's are !! Deployable Gasification Unit ...

Deployable Gasification Units (DGUs)

Cirque Energy, in conjunction with Northrop Grumman Corporation have jointly developed a Deployable Gasification Unit (DGU) for sale to military, government, industrial and commercial customers. The DGUs utililize Cirque Energy's gasification and syngas condition technology, couple with conventional reciprocating engine generator technology. Any carbon-based waste stream (MSW, biomass, etc) of approximately 2-10 tons per day can be cleanly and efficiently turned into combined heat and power (CHP) energy.

How Does it work?

Gasification is incomplete combustion of carbon-based fuel in a starved air environment, producing combustible gases (syngas):

Carbon monoxide (CO), Hydrogen (H2) and Methane (CH4)

Syngas is cooled and scrubbed for use in internal combustion diesel generator

IC generator uses a mixture of up to 70-80% syngas, with balance diesel

Gasification is incomplete combustion of a carbon-based fuel in a starved air environment, producing combustible gases (syngas):

• Carbon monoxide (CO), Hydrogen (H2) and Methane (CH4)
• Syngas is cooled and scrubbed for use in internal combustion diesel generator
• The internal combustion generator uses a mixture of up to 70-80% syngas, with balance diesel or natural gas

True fuel flexibility

• Not limited to just woody biomass like other small-scale gasification systems
• Capable of using any mixed waste stream: MSW, biomass, agriculture waste
• No fuel pre-processing required, i.e. no sorting, special handling, or pelletizing

Scalable solution

• 2 - 10 tons waste per day, resulting in 150-750 kw electric generation plus thermal energy
• High efficiency of nearly 90% when using available waste heat in CHP mode

Redundant and capable of using fossil fuels

• Systems can provide 100% of their design capacity on traditional fossil fuels (diesel or natural gas) when not operated in gasifier mode. This means high reliability and uptime for end users, regardless of the fuel situation.

DGUs for the Military

For the Military, mobility is key

• Two 20’ ISO containers
• PLS transportable
• CH-47 and cargo planes

Operational simplicity

• Startup <2 hours
• No additional personnel
• Use JP-8 (diesel) when solid fuel is not available
• Seamless transition from diesel to syngas, and back
• No special preparation of solid fuel required

DGUs for Commercial and Industry

Non-miliatary applications

• Commercial user or industrial plant with a constant electric demand of at least 200 kW, thermal demand, and a solid waste stream
• Ideal for the MUSH market – municipalities, universities, schools, and hospitals. All of these users typically have a backup generator and an electric demand that must be secure and reliable. All typically have a waste stream.

A commercial DGU can provide:

• Energy Security and Independence
• Cost savings and a buffer from constantly rising utility rates
• Reduce or eliminate waste disposal costs
• Renewable energy!

Availability

Manufacturing Plan

• Gasifier and Gas Cleanup sub-systems manufactured by Cirque Energy
• Overall system manufacturing and final assembly by Northrop Grumman

Testing and Certification

• Full-scale military and commercial prototype systems built
• Extended duration testing and third party certification
• Air emissions testing and certification
• Military demonstrations and shakedowns

New marketing, that is the only new thing......It was already used in the second Worldwar by the Germans.

Disagree ...

Part correct, however I don't think there were to many EPA requirements in those days ...

This system is unique, in that it releases near zero emissions .... EPA compliant !!

All of the Company’s DGU systems will feature a starved air, unique updraft auger gasification system, syngas conditioning system.

[jcisco]

Great news I've been saying this for ages, they do still however have a strategic generation capability shortfall.

Why on earth they haven't looked into several 40MW+ garbage powered capable incinerators power plants running two turbines each strewn around the country, kills two birds with one stone. Expensive, but then so are 3 subs

Because they are not particularly productive and expensive to feed, like wind-turbines they are expensive and purely for political aesthetics.

Carbon fuels are falling in price and should be considered. One single power station with say 3 turbines can probably produce 600+MW, and likely cleaner than 15 garbage burning incinerators can.

My point was to have generators, turbines, switching right through to retails all hooked up and ready to go and in the mean time it can burn trash. As in make it part of the waste management stream and the sneaky bonus is the incentive to maintain them and have them available.

While I do not disagree with you, strategic resourcing and infrastructure isn't primary generation, the reason I suggested what I did was in the event they lose large amounts of generation or transmission capability due to war or natural disasters., whatever. They have these sets available for backups and or for use as donors by cannibalizing them for the long lead time and expensive components needed to restore a much larger thermal plant.

My bad I'm now hungover

[steven100]

I believe waste tp energy is a no brainer .... I think this coupled with solar is the best way to go !!

You remove the garbage piling up everywhere and you provide electricity .

Relocatable units so you could shift from village to village when permits.

[steven100]

just set up a waste management company in the more populated regions which some already have ... then collect the garbage, no special sorting such as other systems have to do .. just tip it in and power is available.

This type of system would be great for many small villiges in thailand where there is limited landfill so trash just piles up.

[jcisco]

Disagree ...

Part correct, however I don't think there were to many EPA requirements in those days ...

This system is unique, in that it releases near zero emissions .... EPA compliant !!

All of the Company’s DGU systems will feature a starved air, unique updraft auger gasification system, syngas conditioning system.

Yah these things are kinda on the small side and not quite going eat enough of the trash or produce much power. Hell ym soi probably generates 2t of trash a day.

How do these plants go if you wind them down and want instant start up? What's the operating profile like?

[steven100]

Disagree ...

Part correct, however I don't think there were to many EPA requirements in those days ...

This system is unique, in that it releases near zero emissions .... EPA compliant !!

All of the Company’s DGU systems will feature a starved air, unique updraft auger gasification system, syngas conditioning system.

Yah these things are kinda on the small side and not quite going eat enough of the trash or produce much power. Hell ym soi probably generates 2t of trash a day.

How do these plants go if you wind them down and want instant start up? What's the operating profile like?

yeah, take your point ....

2 - 10 tons waste per day, resulting in 150-750 kw electric generation plus thermal energy.

I read start up <2 hours

I know they are building a Biomass plant with 4 x units in parallel ... in Midland Texas I think.

[NCC1701A]

ok, i swear to god, as i was reading this the power went off in Hua Hin...

[Reigntax]

But Thai eretwrisity is different from the rest of the world. It uses apps, oams, whats and best powerfactor in Asia.

Edited August 22, 2015 by Reigntax