Lite Beer Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 ASIA NEWS NETWORKPoso terrorists may be linked with Bangkok bombingThe Jakarta PostAsia News Network Indonesia's police are currently looking into whether the East Indonesian Mujahidin (MIT) terrorist group led by Santoso in Poso, Central Sulawesi, has links to the recent deadly bombing in Bangkok, said Coordinating Political, Legal and Security Affairs Minister Luhut Binsar Pandjaitan.Kompass online quoted Luhut as saying that the terrorist group in Poso is being targeted by police.No arrests have been made in relation to the recent bombing in Bangkok. According to some speculation, the Islamic State (IS) was behind the attack, and in Indonesia, the IS movement is allegedly supported by the MIT."We are currently pursuing [MIT]. I have received reports about their movements," said Luhut, with his reports having come from the National Police chief Comr. Gen. Badrodin Haiti.Up to 140 Mobile Brigade (Brimob) officers from Kelapa Dua in Depok have been flown to Poso to assist with the operation.The terrorist group is said to have 30 to 40 members."If we don’t act, they can mobilize more power from various places, including weapons," said Badrodin. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Poso-terrorists-may-be-linked-with-Bangkok-bombing-30267228.html -- The Nation 2015-08-23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) "Poso terrorists may be linked with Bangkok bombing" Yeah, right. Edited August 23, 2015 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Stop making so many ******* XXCUSES..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod reborn Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) "Poso terrorists may be linked with Bangkok bombing" Yeah, right. Somyot SOP? We can't solve the bombing without getting egg on the face of Thai officials. We need a quick, easy-to-blame foreign suspect. We need to show that things are back to normal and save tourism. The Indonesian government is offering up their Poso terrorist group - 40 members strong. Yeah, they have the resources and motivation to blow up a bunch of Chinese tourists at a buddha shrine in Bangkok. Edited August 23, 2015 by zaphod reborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assurancetourix Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I think they must turn their eyes to this direction The Breton Liberation Front (Breton: Talbenn Dieubiñ Breizh ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breton_Liberation_Front If it's not BLF, maybe, but I'm not sure it's The National Liberation Front of Corsica (Corsican: Fronte di Liberazione Naziunale Corsu, or FLNC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Liberation_Front_of_Corsica They both know how to make bombs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seastallion Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) I think they must turn their eyes to this direction The Breton Liberation Front (Breton: Talbenn Dieubiñ Breizh ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breton_Liberation_Front If it's not BLF, maybe, but I'm not sure it's The National Liberation Front of Corsica (Corsican: Fronte di Liberazione Naziunale Corsu, or FLNC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Liberation_Front_of_Corsica They both know how to make bombs Or Basques, or Northern Irish, or... I guess you're suggesting the Indonesian theory is wrong, by being sarcastic? Otherwise, Edited August 23, 2015 by Seastallion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seastallion Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I think they must turn their eyes to this direction The Breton Liberation Front (Breton: Talbenn Dieubiñ Breizh ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breton_Liberation_Front If it's not BLF, maybe, but I'm not sure it's The National Liberation Front of Corsica (Corsican: Fronte di Liberazione Naziunale Corsu, or FLNC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Liberation_Front_of_Corsica They both know how to make bombs Possibly Alain Mafart or Dominique Prieur, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerone Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Soon also Gandhi e madre teresa will be on the suspect list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishJohn Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 "According to some speculation..." That made me laugh : it is an attempt to give the story credibility when in fact it means 'based on absolutely nothing'. The media are trying point the finger absolutely everywhere except at that big square faced elephant sat in the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assurancetourix Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I guess you're suggesting the Indonesian theory is wrong, by being sarcastic? Otherwise, I forgot some smileys like this one or this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 The exercise in [The Thai authorities] suggesting any reason bar the elephant in the room continues. I look forward to the next instalment. "It was a bloke (foreigner, naturally) who had had an argument with his wife and was a bit angry". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedtripler Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 "According to some speculation..." That made me laugh : it is an attempt to give the story credibility when in fact it means 'based on absolutely nothing'. The media are trying point the finger absolutely everywhere except at that big square faced elephant sat in the corner. Sometimes there really is an elephant in every corner.... Can you say with 100% certainty who is responsible? Something we might be missing is maybe the motive is supposed to be unclear... Like if it was in police hq I would think aha, cool, I don't have to worry about it then If it's in tourist attractions, I'll be OK where I live... If it was in American embassy, I could say the same If they blew up a mosque or something I'd still feel safe because I am not Muslim and don't visit mosques etc If it was teenage gangs from rival schools most of us would be shocked, but still understand.. No logical target or motive whatsoever is more widely terrifying imo If a shrine can blow up, anything else can be the next target from unknown culprits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkerry Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 The Shining Path must be gutted not to have made the list of suspects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim walker Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 No they are not the RTP are on the case so arrest probable in the next few hrs the rubber hoses and the water board have been looked out already for his confession alignment its as easy as that no foreigners involved strictly local job, well done RTP another pip for the 8 star general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualbiker Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Umm did ya all miss the bit that this is coming from the Indonesian government not Thai government! Obviously it could just be a convenient excuse for the indos to clean house BUT!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I was watching the BBC TV news and they had a remark go by on the banner at the bottom of the screen saying that the investigation had been slowed down by the lack of equipment or something. Any one else see that any comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I was watching the BBC TV news and they had a remark go by on the banner at the bottom of the screen saying that the investigation had been slowed down by the lack of equipment or something. Any one else see that any comments? There's another thread running here to that effect. LINK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noitom Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 This is great. The Thais can immediately start blaming MIT for wanting to "harm" Thailand. This is further immediate proof that no THais were involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowsdawdle Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 "Poso terrorists may be linked with Bangkok bombing" Yeah, right. Not international, not local, next we will hear that it didn't really happen....either that, or they'll report that the B2 escaped and perpetrated the explosions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowsdawdle Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I was watching the BBC TV news and they had a remark go by on the banner at the bottom of the screen saying that the investigation had been slowed down by the lack of equipment or something. Any one else see that any comments? That was not a report. It was a fundraising press release. Fundraising is tea money in bulk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennyW Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 It is Monday morning, be interesting to see how many potential suspects they can mention this week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooo Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 IRA is responsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualbiker Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 IRA is responsible. Well it was reported that the man spoke a language that no one understood, so a possibility!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLSEEINGEYE Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Does POSO usually claim responsibility after and attack? If so then not likely that this was them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toybits Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Now, the BIG question is "What's their Motive?". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linzz Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I think they must turn their eyes to this direction The Breton Liberation Front (Breton: Talbenn Dieubiñ Breizh ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breton_Liberation_Front If it's not BLF, maybe, but I'm not sure it's The National Liberation Front of Corsica (Corsican: Fronte di Liberazione Naziunale Corsu, or FLNC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Liberation_Front_of_Corsica They both know how to make bombs Possibly Alain Mafart or Dominique Prieur, too. You must be a kiwi in your 60's to have those names still etched on your memory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjunadawn Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) I think this thread is near universal in objecting to the idea that terrorist cell in SE Asia might have something to do with this. I think you are all mistaken. Without question IS has turned its attention to SE Asia, with an entire franchise devoted to addressing India first. In islam any land that was once ever a part of an islamic conquest is a warqf- is religiously endowed and will remain in islam's hands forever. IS has already demonstrated skillful navigation in how it branches out using regional proxies, whether Egypt, Libya, Somali, Nigeria, India, and lone wolves. It would be foolish not to consider whether such sources participated in this attack. This device was not the type previously seen here. I believe it is more alarming that no one claimed responsibility. The need for a permissive environment to move is more important than the satisfaction of declaration. This suggests a weak support network or potentially more attacks. Either way, declaration is not more important than buckling down toward a different goal. This is unusual for a terrorist attack and must be reasoned why. (Note: Patsies and the second bomber. It should not be ruled out that bomber #1 (possibly) did not know what was in Bag#1, and was paid or devised to leave it at a place and time. There are numerous real examples where such things are true. Within a short time someone decided to bail out on delivering Bag #2 because of having seen the news, perhaps. There are only a few valid scenarios that takes place when someone has a bomb in their bag. There are only a few reasons why such an act would take place without attribution- patsies bailed and the environment needed to be sterilized (by handlers) because of partial mission failure or not enabling authorities to narrow down on suspects allows a continued permissive environment to setup further efforts- in this case the goal is of course not political rather religious). https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/east-asia/2014-09-19/isis-goes-asia http://perthusasia.edu.au/usac/assets/media/docs/publications/FINAL_F_Hanson_ISIS_ICT.pdf http://www.ibtimes.com/isis-planning-attacks-southeast-asia-through-local-wing-katibah-nusantara-report-1943392 Edited August 24, 2015 by arjunadawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianj1964 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 alot of people are coming out with statements about who was involved, who made the bomb, it gets added to daily, without any credible evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjunadawn Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 First, evidence has never been primary in the court of public opinion. We are not prosecutors or policymakers, directly. The standard is not evidence or probable cause, rather perception and intuition. In fact, when considerable, evidence often cannot change this. Indeed, this thread exists to exercise public opinion. By the absence of what /who is not primarily considered and discussed as the source of the attack considerable weight is given to what/who might be responsible (in public opinion). This is not evidence, this is deduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balford Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I'm confused - a week has gone by and not one Lao, Cambodian or Burmese has been arrested purely and simply on the premise that "...no Thai would do that." Time's running out - scapegoat time. Bob A. Relaxed in Lampang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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