jko Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Realise the pros/cons for/against W8 and W10 have already been discussed, but a short answer to this might also help others in my position. I need to buy a new laptop quickly. Based on personal experience: Who would definitely recommend W10? (obviously with full privacy options enabled) Who would say a definite no-no to W10, and go with W8? Grateful for input -thanks folks. = Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I reckon Windows 10, had 8.1 only for two weeks on a school computer. It seems that Windows still needs to fix some things, but definitely 10. Don't make the usual set up what Windows recommends. I'm running 10 on a school computer and my PC at home and it's okay. I'd never ever want Windows 8.1 back. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorriedNoodle Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 The reason they went from Win8 to Win10 (skipping Win9) was to get as far away from Win8 as possible I thought? That surely says Win8 sucks big time. I'm a Win7 and Win10 user and prefer Win10 by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOC Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) Win7 pro Make sure they install it where you bought it. Microsoft did a backroom deal to exclude the 7 drivers from newer laptops. Edited September 10, 2015 by NOC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Neither. Windows 7 is the best and most reliable. Install that. Skip windows 8...it is crap. Windows 10 users are just beginning to report driver and security issues. There is really nothing great about windows 10. Stick to windows 7, until Microsoft removes their head from their burger buns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fertilizer Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 If you need a new laptop quickly I doubt you will find anyone with Win 10 preinstalled at the moment. Maybe October they will start to come with plenty available in December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aachen Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I think Windows 7 is the choice. You then can install the Windows 10 Update in about 3 month just by clicking on the update Icon. Just give MS the chance to fieldcheck the 10 and get the user errors first to fix them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Win 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabdog Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Here come the naysayers, conspiracy theorists and people scared of change. If you're just doing everyday tasks (web browsing, email, music and video) then go for Windows 10. If you use specialized or professional software then it might be worthwhile checking compatibility issues beforehand. Also worth making sure that the laptop you buy is compatible with Windows 10, which it should be if new. A few seconds of Googling will inform you of this. Been using Win10 on 3 different computers since May and have not had any problems. If you're paranoid about Windows spying on you (solipsism is quite funny with pc users, noone really cares about you that much) then heres a bunch of apps to make you feel warm and cuddly: http://bgr.com/2015/08/14/windows-10-spying-prevention-privacy-tools/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrilled Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Would you also want to consider windows 98 ,or XP?You should always have the latest operating system.So Windows 10 is the Answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SantiSuk Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Win 10s fine. Only a few minor wrinkles so far! Converted from Win 7 Pro a few weeks ago. The conversion is also easy if you want to hedge your bets and install 7 first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) Here come the naysayers, conspiracy theorists and people scared of change. If you're just doing everyday tasks (web browsing, email, music and video) then go for Windows 10. If you use specialized or professional software then it might be worthwhile checking compatibility issues beforehand. Also worth making sure that the laptop you buy is compatible with Windows 10, which it should be if new. A few seconds of Googling will inform you of this. Been using Win10 on 3 different computers since May and have not had any problems. If you're paranoid about Windows spying on you (solipsism is quite funny with pc users, noone really cares about you that much) then heres a bunch of apps to make you feel warm and cuddly: http://bgr.com/2015/08/14/windows-10-spying-prevention-privacy-tools/ Has nothing to do with paranoia, or being a naysayer or scared. Some people run to get the latest and greatest, but then find out the HDMI port or audio drivers are not working. Could be other drivers that are no longer function as well. Practicality is what I call it. You may have older hardware (printers, external drives and other devices) whose manufacturers have not yet...or might never...upgrade their drivers. Software that relies on drivers and these external devices are also a factor. For those of us that know the drill...we sit and wait for everything to come up to expectations. Jumping the gun and losing a system that works, and getting only eye candy and a bunch of driver/security issues in return...is foolish. If all your hardware and software is running smoothly, why would you upgrade just now? My computer runs and looks great...with no issues whatsovever. I will retain windows 7 ...although Linux is my preference (a hundred times more reliable..and free). You all just want to jump everytime Microsoft puts a carrot on a stick....without thinking. thats fine. Throw out a good system and put windows 10 on. Just do not go whining about your new problems. Edited September 10, 2015 by slipperylobster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiman Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Windows 10 is great, but turn off all the hidden surveillance. Fast reliable10 Pro is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recycler Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Try Ubuntu first, there is a fair chance you'll like it and you can stop paying for licenses ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaurene Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Neither. Windows 7 is the best and most reliable. Install that. Skip windows 8...it is crap. Windows 10 users are just beginning to report driver and security issues. There is really nothing great about windows 10. Stick to windows 7, until Microsoft removes their head from their burger buns. I agree, I was home in New Zealand couple months ago and bought a new Acer it had W8 I got it changed to W7 much better. 8 is shit with problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffkp Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I would get a machine with Windows 10 pre-installed (if possible). You would need to upgrade soon anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 A person would probably really narrow down there choices greatly at this point in time if trying to find a machine with Win 10 factory pre-installed....for those that do come with Windows installed it's still Win 8.1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoZth Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I bought a new laptop with windows 8... I didn't get on with it at all, I was looking into loading windows 7 then the option to upgrade free to 10 popped up. So I took it up. It was very easy to do but I did have a problem when it was loaded. I had no sound!! Apparently this problem is not unknown, there are tips on google about how to rectify this. If you upgrade and have this sound problem I'm sorry, I can't tell you how how to fix it. I have teamviewer installed, my son fixed it for me... All the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchfriis Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 If you like most home users have no special Windows programs that you need to use, I agree with Recycler: Try Linux, Ubuntu or my preferred flavor, Linux Mint. Don't let the fact that it's free put you off. Mint and Ubuntu are stable, easy to use and have all the bells and whistles you will need/want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 You have to consider the driver issues when buying new laptops today. I believe it was NOC who commented that new mainboards are not compatible with Win7 drivers? I haven't heard about this but wouldn't dismiss it. Also on the issue of Win7, getting a legal copy of 7 here in Thailand to install may be a problem; if you have your own copy, then you can of course re-format to 7, but be aware of the drivers. I look after about 30 workstations and 10 laptops, running Win8.1 and with the exception of only one of them (specific software program related), have never had a problem with any of them. The majority of the bad press regarding Win 8.1 comes from the default settings, in particular the Metro screen and no start menu. Come to terms with this (disable Metro and use a 3rd party start menu) and you will find, as an operating system, it is extremely stable. So from me, get a laptop with 8.1, on new machines all drivers will be available. You then have the option of upgrading to W10 at your leisure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Windows 10 100% better than 8.1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Regardless of the Windows version desired when making a new computer buy, read the sales ad closely as to what operating system comes factory installed. In Thailand (and many other countries), the great majority of new computers do not come with Windows installed to reduce the computer's price in case the customer wanted to install another OS instead or maybe already had a copy of Windows to install. Instead, usually FreeDOS and sometimes a version of Linux such as Ubuntu which is free is installed. And just because the online ad may show a Windows display on the computer's screen or that store display model has Windows on it, does not necessarily mean it comes with Windows. Very common for store display models to have some version of Windows installed just so the customer can play with the model as they will likely be installing Windows--but that does not mean yours will come with Windows---read the sales ad closely/ask the sales clerk as to what OS is included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 If you like most home users have no special Windows programs that you need to use, I agree with Recycler: Try Linux, Ubuntu or my preferred flavor, Linux Mint. Don't let the fact that it's free put you off. Mint and Ubuntu are stable, easy to use and have all the bells and whistles you will need/want. It is certainly an option to change to Linux for home use. However, the OP has said he needs a quick replacement, and i don't think that means retraining to a new OS. In general, the majority of people hate change anyway............................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Regardless of the Windows version desired when making a new computer buy, read the sales ad closely as to what operating system comes factory installed. In Thailand (and many other countries), the great majority of new computers do not come with Windows installed to reduce the computer's price in case the customer wanted to install another OS instead or maybe already had a copy of Windows to install. Instead, usually FreeDOS and sometimes a version of Linux such as Ubuntu which is free is installed. And just because the online ad may show a Windows display on the computer's screen or that store display model has Windows on it, does not necessarily mean it comes with Windows. Very common for store display models to have some version of Windows installed just so the customer can play with the model as they will likely be installing Windows--but that does not mean yours will come with Windows---read the sales ad closely/ask the sales clerk as to what OS is included. Up here (Phits) unless you are buying from the appointed distributor with an OEM installed, you will receive a new notebook/PC with an image installed comprising of a pirate OS along with what the store considers you will need; Photoshop, Acrobat, media players, freeware AV and a couple of thousand games. It is really quite astounding the number of people who believe these 'additions' to being part of the windows OS, and when told about the cost of individual (legit) licences for the bundled software don't believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 No question about it Windows 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meltingpot2015 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) I've seen some laptops come with Ubuntu pre-installed. Even if the laptop comes with windows you can install ubuntu side-by-side, to play around with, and one day take the leap. Some manufacturers (e.g: HP) are however making it difficult to have a dual-boot (Windows and Ubuntu) setup with the Efi system partitions. So you may have to choose one or the other. Although, easy if you just wipe the hard drive and install ubuntu only. If you decide to keep the windows that came pre-installed and install ubuntu side-by-side, you can, but need to go on youtube, and other websites read-up and do some additional work. I chose this option, the windows partition is there on my system, to boot this, I just rename one of the boot drive files..and restart computer. Never had to do it (only used ubuntu since install). When buying new computer also ask about hardware upgrade options. Most importantly the maximum memory you can install and number of memory slots available (my notebook was advertised as 2 slots but on inspection has only 1 slot). You can upgrade processor, but unlikely you will do it on notebook computer. You can also upgrade your hardrive to solid state hard drive. Worth finding out if there are new laptops that come with solid state drives. All depends on what you will use notebook for. If its just basic wordprocessing, and e-mailing it may be overkill. However, even for internet browsing, I've noticed chrome, firefox and other browsers do use a lot of memory when you open 10+ tabs/windows. Edited September 11, 2015 by meltingpot2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterphil Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 You don't buy either. Buy a Mac and do yourself a favour. Once you've had a Mac you never go back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Whatever Windows OS you use with your laptop be sure to install the drivers/utilities/BIOS updates from the laptop manufacturer's driver support website to ensure best performance, stability, etc. Too many people just use the drivers that come with Windows which may work but can still cause some glitches/issues (maybe intermittent) with your laptop...install the latest drivers from the manufacturer's driver support website for your particular model and the glitches/issues should disappear. And many manufacturers are pumping-out updated Win 10 drivers daily. Example: for my Lenovo Z510 laptop a bunch of Win 10 drivers were released a few weeks before Win 10 was officially released to the public on 29 July....and since them they have updated some of those drivers....released two updates for the Wifi and Bluetooth just a few days ago....these were updates to the initial Win 10 Wifi and BT drivers released about a month earlier. Yeap, use drivers from your laptop manufacturer's for best results as laptops can be downright picky about their drivers....much more so than desktops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteman Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 windows 7 end of story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Win 7 Win 8 is crap Win 10 is is not finish till the 1st servicepack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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