webfact Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 THAI-US RELATIONSUS ambassador upbeat after his meeting with PMWASAMON AUDJARINTTHE NATION Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha with US Ambassador Glyn T Davies at Thai Khu Fah building, Government House, yesterday to discuss bilateral relations and cooperation.Prayut explains circumstances behind coup; says justice process fair and no groups targetedBANGKOK: -- GLYN DAVIES, the new US ambassador to Thailand, has expressed confidence in Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha's sincerity in wanting to restore democracy.The vote of confidence followed their first lengthy meeting with the premier at Government House yesterday.Deputy Government Spokesman Maj-General Weerachon Sukond-hapatipak said the PM had explained in detail the need for Thailand to revert to martial law last year and the current enforcement of Article 44 in the interim charter, which gives Prayut wide-ranging powers.This special legal power has never been abused by the government, Davies was told.The country's justice process has been fair and there has been no bias for or against any political groups, Weerachon quoted Prayut as telling the US's top envoy in Thailand.The US ambassador told reporters after meeting Prayut that the US view on Thailand's political landscape had not changed following the 2014 coup.Davies said that the prime minister had talked about his aspirations for Thailand at great length."It was an opportunity for me to listen," he said. "I did more listening than talking in the meeting, which was my plan. He spoke about his experience and aspirations for a return to democracy here."It's important to reassure sustainable democracy in Thailand. [Democracy] will be important for [Thailand's] future on [the] economy and security."The envoy also stressed that it is important "to have this kind of government accepted and supported by people of Thailand".Prayut did not talk to reporters after the meeting.Weerachon said that Prayut and Davies also discussed the bilateral relationship and cooperation in public health, investment and people-to-people relations. There was no specific discussion on the Trans-Pacific Partnership issue.The drafting of the new charter was also not discussed, he said.Davies has urged the government to give more public space to the public, civil society, non-government organisations and the mass media to discuss and debate the country's political future.Prior to his meeting with Prayut, Davies had met with Foreign Minister Don Pramudwinai on October 15 and Deputy Prime Minister Wissanu Krea-ngam on Tuesday.Prayut has said that it is the protocol for the US envoy to meet with other ministers first before meeting the prime minister.During his meeting with other Cabinet members, Davies emphasised the need for Thailand to return to democracy and to achieve national reconciliation.Wissanu informed the ambassador that the general election should be held by May 2017.Although the Kingdom is one of the oldest US allies in Asia, the US has restricted its bilateral relations with Thailand following the coup while expressing concern over the country's human rights suppression and other undemocratic measures.But Don said that the two countries are still "good friends" and their |relations remain normal with continued cooperation in fields such as security, law enforcement and environment.Meanwhile, Deputy Prime Minister and Defence Minster Prawit Wongsuwan yesterday clarified PM Prayut's statement on "shutting down" the country and remaining in power if peace does not return in order to pave the way for a general election in accordance with the reform road map.The premier did not mean it, Prawit said.PM Prayut's controversial remark was made on Wednesday during the meeting of the so-called "Five Rivers" of power.Prawit said that the premier meant that if violence takes place due to political protests and obstructs the road map, holding a general election would be impossible."Don't think too much. Our country is moving forward," he said.Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/US-ambassador-upbeat-after-his-meeting-with-PM-30271910.html-- The Nation 2015-10-30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckBee Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 not thinking too much is why it all in such as mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotheruser Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Dear God he actually used the "don't think too much" line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomJoad Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 (edited) DAVIES: "It's important to reassure sustainable democracy in Thailand. [Democracy] will be important for [Thailand's] future on [the] economy and security." GOOGLE TRANSLATION: It's important to allow major corporations, the media, and bankers run your country just like they do America now. Hey, at least with Obama it's been sustainable [so far]. DAVIES: "It was an opportunity for me to listen," he said. "I did more listening than talking in the meeting, which was my plan." GOOGLE TRANSLATION: We've already tried insulting Thailand and it just didn't work out for some reason. They only moved closer to China. And besides, when you see what we've done to Iraq and Syria in the Middle East, perhaps it's better if we started listening more often. Edited October 29, 2015 by TomJoad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdoglover Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 The Junta spin is superficial and unconvincing. I'm trying to be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docshock13 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 The Junta spin is superficial and unconvincing. I'm trying to be nice. At least they quoted a foreign diplomat this time in his own words instead putting words in his mouth. However, for the paper that published this article to infer the envoy was "upbeat," is quite a stretch given what he was quoted as saying. On another note, love the pic and Prayuth's use of the Jedi force: "You WILL say you stand behind me and my roadmap." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 tomorrow the headline news will be: "Prayut: the handshake with the US ambassador was not stagged" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 (edited) Amazing how much the PM talks then a flunkie has to clarify that he was ' only joking, didn't mean it ' etc. He really needs to get to grips with the saying about keeping your mouth shut and appearing to be a fool etc. Edited October 29, 2015 by NongKhaiKid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieinthailand Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) Amazing how much the PM talks then a flunkie has to clarify that he was ' only joking, didn't mean it ' etc. He really needs to get to grips with the saying about keeping your mouth shut and appearing to be a fool etc. "close down the country", "He didn't mean it" "Don't think to much". How about this one uncle T, Quote; " Say not always what you know, but always know what you say" (Appius Claudius). Edited October 30, 2015 by aussieinthailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABloke Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 ''The envoy also stressed that it is important "to have this kind of government accepted and supported by people of Thailand".'' What does this mean? The current government or the future one alluded to in the paragraph before the qouted one above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 "Prayut explains circumstances behind coup; says justice process fair and no groups targeted" 5555555555555! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicowoodduck Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Just blowing more smoke up the arse...IMHO......and don't think too much about that...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKnave Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 DAVIES: "It's important to reassure sustainable democracy in Thailand. [Democracy] will be important for [Thailand's] future on [the] economy and security." GOOGLE TRANSLATION: It's important to allow major corporations, the media, and bankers run your country just like they do America now. Hey, at least with Obama it's been sustainable [so far]. DAVIES: "It was an opportunity for me to listen," he said. "I did more listening than talking in the meeting, which was my plan." GOOGLE TRANSLATION: We've already tried insulting Thailand and it just didn't work out for some reason. They only moved closer to China. And besides, when you see what we've done to Iraq and Syria in the Middle East, perhaps it's better if we started listening more often. Henry Fonda is spinning in his grave... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 "Don't think too much. Our country is moving forward," he said, "Just head over to the nearest soapy, then you will feel upbeat". Works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 US ambassador Davies upbeat after his meeting with PM Prayut Prayut brought happiness to the ambassador? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod reborn Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Prayut explains circumstances behind coup; says justice process fair and no groups targeted. This special legal power has never been abused by the government, Davies was told. The country's justice process has been fair and there has been no bias for or against any political groups. Meanwhile, Deputy Prime Minister and Defence Minster Prawit Wongsuwan yesterday clarified PM Prayut's statement on "shutting down" the country and remaining in power if peace does not return in order to pave the way for a general election in accordance with the reform road map. The premier did not mean it, Prawit said. Prawit said that the premier meant that if violence takes place due to political protests and obstructs the road map, holding a general election would be impossible. Nothing to see here. Move along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpedo1970 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 "Don't think too much. Our country is moving forward," he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod reborn Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 US ambassador Davies upbeat after his meeting with PM Prayut Prayut brought happiness to the ambassador? or maybe a little taste of attitude adjustment was necessary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) US ambassador Davies upbeat after his meeting with PM PrayutPrayut brought happiness to the ambassador?Already been said by previous poster. Edited October 30, 2015 by MZurf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiamaster Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 US is panicking. They are losing influence and ground left right and centre. The future of Asia (and also Europe) is in China's hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 "to have this kind of government accepted and supported by people of Thailand" he means the unelected kind? the Army kind? hold an election and find out! but they won't do that as they would lose by a landslide. Man up Ambassador Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PilotEd Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Nothing new here. The USA has always preferred to deal with dictators. Easier to deal with one person than a democratically elected parliament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandadavid Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I not even read this... I saw news report The MESSAGE was clear and THAIVISA can say as they wish. Thailands people MUST HAVE THE RIGH TO DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM ELECTIONS Please The rest is Prayith and co decoy rubbish spraying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glaswegian Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 democracy in Thailand ? democracy works only in the countries with high rate of education!!! democracy in Thailand is something like leukin for water in a desert, am a socialist republician an i am tee opinion that constitutial monarchies are not combined with representative democracies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextStationBangkok Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 This meeting is just like Coco-Cola party! As long as burbs are out everything should be OK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandadavid Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Davies is no fool. He walked away in shock and fear of problems on the horizon PRAYUT democracy please. The man had shown 0 compassion or democracy. The people fear and that's all it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AjarnMartin Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 tomorrow the headline news will be: "Prayut: the handshake with the US ambassador was not stagged" ... or staged... :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balance Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 not thinking too much is why it all in such as mess Yes, that expression is one of my wife's favorite. At least once a day she reminds me that, either I am thinking too much, or that thinking too much will give me a headache. She also uses the expression with respect to her own thinking, especially the part about the headache. Being serious for a moment and thinking too much, I think that American and European expats, and in reality all those educated from an early age in the West, forget that we have been raised to think, our culture going back to the Greeks and throughout the rich European intellectual history. For many of us thinking is fun and often very productive and rewarding. Unfortunately, Thailand has a very different cultural attitude toward thinking. For one, thinking has never been taught in Thai schools. Epistemology an logic and scientific method are truly not within the ken of Thai tradition. Understanding the importance of thinking and then figuring out how to teach children to think is one measure of what it means to be an "emerging" country. It will happen, and the speed with which it happens is up to the Thai people and their leaders, not us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 US ambassador Davies upbeat after his meeting with PM Prayut Prayut brought happiness to the ambassador? He gave him directions to Annie's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 DAVIES: "It's important to reassure sustainable democracy in Thailand. [Democracy] will be important for [Thailand's] future on [the] economy and security." GOOGLE TRANSLATION: It's important to allow major corporations, the media, and bankers run your country just like they do America now. Hey, at least with Obama it's been sustainable [so far]. DAVIES: "It was an opportunity for me to listen," he said. "I did more listening than talking in the meeting, which was my plan." GOOGLE TRANSLATION: We've already tried insulting Thailand and it just didn't work out for some reason. They only moved closer to China. And besides, when you see what we've done to Iraq and Syria in the Middle East, perhaps it's better if we started listening more often. More US bashing and conspiracy theories. They are getting boring now, Do you buy into other conspiracy theories like area 51 where the US government hide the alien spacecraft and alien body! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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