Jonathan Fairfield Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Chiang Mai Police find Foreigner Hanged at Construction Site CHIANG MAI – Pol Maj Watcharapol Yomkerd, a duty officer at Muang police station has told reporters that the body of a foreign Asian man was found hanged with his hands tied in a guesthouse under construction in Muang district of Chiang Mai on Saturday. The man, in his 30s, was found dead on the second floor of the two-storey Thai-style guesthouse under construction in tambon Phra Singh, said Pol Maj Watcharapol Yomkerd said. Pol Maj Watcharapol Yomkerd said the man was hanging by a scarf around his neck from a beam and his hands were bound with a black leather strip with a chair was found fallen on the floor, Thairath Online reported. Police reported that there were no traces of a struggle inside the house and there were no identification documents on his body. FULL STORY: http://www.chiangraitimes.com/chiang-mai-police-find-foreigner-hanged-at-construction-site.html -- Chiang Rai Times 2015-08-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petedk Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Police have yet to determine whether the man hanged himself or someone else killed him and later hanged his body to conceal the crime. Times are changing. Normally the police would have said "suicide.. case closed." Now they start to think of other possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jalansanitwong Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Why do the cops here always make such a big deal out of whether there are signs of a struggle or not? If a killer or killers want to leave 'no signs of a struggle' they simply tidy the place up. Chairs placed upright,broken glass removed etc take 3 minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Why do the cops here always make such a big deal out of whether there are signs of a struggle or not? If a killer or killers want to leave 'no signs of a struggle' they simply tidy the place up. Chairs placed upright,broken glass removed etc take 3 minutes? Other than the sounds of struggles often bring the curious, and being found trying up around a dead body is usualy not a good thing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfarang Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Police have yet to determine whether the man hanged himself or someone else killed him and later hanged his body to conceal the crime. Times are changing. Normally the police would have said "suicide.. case closed." Now they start to think of other possibilities. No need. The Police reported that there were no traces of a struggle inside the house and there were no identification documents on his body that is more or less saying it`s a suicide of a John Doe.. Case concluded. To be filed in the police freezer with the rest of the cold case files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom21 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Asian, no ID. how do they know he was not thai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickagain Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 where is Trevor Eve when you need him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozyjon Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Should i be concerned be more vigilant hard to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yann55 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 In a 'guest house under construction' ... even for those who don't believe in ghosts and/or Feng Shui, what a frightful omen Anyway .. RIP man, whoever you were and whatever happened there.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfarang Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Asian, no ID. how do they know he was not thai He wasn`t waiing at time of death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 If only the RTP had the expertise of the TVF detectives, no case would go unsolved ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie61 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 suicide.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Just wondering, is it common for people to tie their when they hang themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn0001 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Just wondering, is it common for people to tie their when they hang themselves. It happens but I'm not sure how common it is, it infers that the suicide was planned in advance rather than a spur of the moment decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn0001 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Asian, no ID. how do they know he was not thai They don't, it is just in the English language Chiang Mai Times that the police have been misquoted as saying that he is foreign, in the original article on Thairath.co.th they say his nationality is unknown but he looks Japanese, Korean or Chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Why do the cops here always make such a big deal out of whether there are signs of a struggle or not? If a killer or killers want to leave 'no signs of a struggle' they simply tidy the place up. Chairs placed upright,broken glass removed etc take 3 minutes? Police work, plumbing, shopwork, you name it, the job is unimportant. Thais like quick and easy. Quick job, all done, all finished, no great effort required. After a look round to see if there are "signs of a struggle", the next step is to document the presence or absence of alcohol bottles and cigarette butts. From that all sorts of speculative guesswork under the guise of detective work can be made. e.g. 3 empty beer bottles = the deceased was depressed and killed himself. 2 different types of cigarette = 2 people. Quick and easy, job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFishman1 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Hands tied ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauleddy Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I suppose that some people tie their own hands so that they cannot change their minds e.g. undo the noose. I believe that people facing judicial hangings have their hands tied or their arms strapped to their sides, so that they cannot struggle with the warders and/or fiddle with the noose. The blindfold is usually a big black hood which is quickly slipped over the head before the rope is in place. The idea is to be as humane as possible. The guilty were sometimes unaware that a good hangman could do his work in a flash. They were dead before they even knew it. Hanging was an art and a science. The drop distances were finely calculated based on weight and the type of gallows, and records/calculations were kept and referred to. "Real" Hangmen (like Pierrepont) used a special knot which breaks the neck vertebrae in an instant. They took pride in their jobs, and rarely failed. Hangings took place before dawn, so these guys had to get up at 2a.m. and even travel quite far, unless they took the train the night before. The hangman always had an apprentice or learner with him...sometimes two. Lynchings or amateur hangings were often something else. The rope was not knotted in a professional noose, and the victim might be slowly strangled for hours or days, by his own body weight. Eddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggt Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 All foreigners die here of natural causes or suicide...This is Thailand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaded Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I tried tying my hands together but it was impossible even if I used my teeth - you should try it. I then asked my wife to tie my hands together to see if I could put my head through a noose while standing on a stool with my hands tied together. Again, it was impossible. My wife then had a bright idea - why not get the police to help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taotoo Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I tried tying my hands together but it was impossible even if I used my teeth - you should try it. I then asked my wife to tie my hands together to see if I could put my head through a noose while standing on a stool with my hands tied together. Again, it was impossible. My wife then had a bright idea - why not get the police to help you. Not sure the police do threesomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkdawg Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Another Houdini who can tie his own hands behind his back and then go on to hang himself. What bullshit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 (edited) I tried tying my hands together but it was impossible even if I used my teeth - you should try it. I then asked my wife to tie my hands together to see if I could put my head through a noose while standing on a stool with my hands tied together. Again, it was impossible. My wife then had a bright idea - why not get the police to help you. So, your wife has tied your hands together, you're standing on a stool and trying to pass a noose over your head. You must trust your wife. Edited - thank you for the correction Loaded. Edited November 8, 2015 by chickenslegs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaded Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I tried tying my hands together but it was impossible even if I used my teeth - you should try it. I then asked my wife to tie my hands together to see if I could put my head through a noose while standing on a stool with my hands tied together. Again, it was impossible. My wife then had a bright idea - why not get the police to help you. Not sure the police do threesomes. personal experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jip66 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 (edited) I tried tying my hands together but it was impossible even if I used my teeth - you should try it. I then asked my wife to tie my hands together to see if I could put my head through a noose while standing on a stool with my hands tied together. Again, it was impossible. My wife then had a bright idea - teerak, do you want me to kick the chair away for you?. Edited November 8, 2015 by Jip66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaded Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I tried tying my hands together but it was impossible even if I used my teeth - you should try it. I then asked my wife to tie my hands together to see if I could put my head through a noose while standing on a stool with my hands tied together. Again, it was impossible. My wife then had a bright idea - why not get the police to help you. So, you're wife has tied your hands together, you're standing on a stool and trying to pass a noose over your head. You must trust your wife. 'your wife...'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffyfromflint Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Some of the comments here need bottleing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaded Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Some of the comments here need bottleing. '... bottling' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowsdawdle Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Asian, no ID. how do they know he was not thai No Thai would do such a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookee68 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Police have yet to determine whether the man hanged himself or someone else killed him and later hanged his body to conceal the crime. Times are changing. Normally the police would have said "suicide.. case closed." Now they start to think of other possibilities. Just for a little while, then when they find that hard to do they will revert back to the old ways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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