webfact Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 FBI expands probe into Hillary Clinton’s emails BY BNO NEWSWASHINGTON: -- The Federal Bureau of Investigation has expanded its probe into the email arrangement of former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to determine whether there is evidence of false statements and gross negligence, according to media reports.The expanded scope of the investigation focuses on U.S. Code 18, Section 1001, and violations of an Espionage Act provision, intelligence sources familiar with the investigation told Fox News on Thursday. It follows a report from Politico earlier this week that said the probe into Clinton’s emails had been stepped up.U.S. Code 18, Section 1001, pertains to “materially false” statements given either in writing, orally or through a third party, Fox News reported. The potential violations of an Espionage Act provision relate to “gross negligence” in the handling of national defense information.Full story: http://www.streetwisejournal.com/fbi-expands-probe-into-hillary-clintons-emails-report/12305/-- StreetWiseJournal 2015-11-13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khwaibah Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Hang her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) FOX news reports, The Federal Bureau of Investigation has expanded its probe, "according to unconfirmed media reports." Edited November 13, 2015 by RidgeRunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) It's like a slow motion Watergate gradually building momentum. I wonder just how much of the murky Iceberg still lies underwater waiting to be discovered? P.s As for looking for 'gross negligence' with respect to safeguarding national security I would suggest looking no further than Hillary Clinton's political appointees. Edited November 13, 2015 by Steely Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 How many inquiries have there been? Now FBI. When that fails it will be state troopers, then boy scouts. Really, this is quite ridiculous. No, this is insane treatment of her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 How many inquiries have there been? Now FBI. When that fails it will be state troopers, then boy scouts. Really, this is quite ridiculous. No, this is insane treatment of her. The right wing has been harassing her, non-stop since Bill was Prez. Thats what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
does Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Smoke, fire, crash, burn - Joe Biden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godden Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Pull out her tongue and cut it off would be a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) How many inquiries have there been? Now FBI. When that fails it will be state troopers, then boy scouts. Really, this is quite ridiculous. No, this is insane treatment of her. And the FBI broke this via Faux news? Amazing must be true. The right is out to get you girl. They will throw enough Sballs at you and hope something sticks. Edited November 13, 2015 by elgordo38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 A post containing an aberrant misspelling of a political party has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timber Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 The FBI is Republican? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humqdpf Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Am I missing something here? How can you "expand" a probe into something that you are already probing? In this case, they are examining Mrs Clinton's email behaviour - I don't particularly like the woman (I am not an American citizen and therefore do not have "any skin in the game") but even I find the investigation into whether she used this email or that email server tedious and hair-splitting to an extreme degree. How they can expand the probe into an even more hair-splitting exercise beats me. Look, it would appear that a number of subscribers on this forum hate Mrs Clinton - and no doubt they have reason for their views (I mean reasons above and beyond watching too much Fox TV). But surely there are better ways of arguing against her than some nonsense about email server use? And an FBI investigation? With all the Islamic Fundamental terrorists, murderers and pedophiles out there, I would have thought that Mrs Clinton would be the least of their worries. I mean, yeah you may not want her to be the next President of the USA but there are a few current and former African politicians who have actually committed mass murder, stolen vast sums and made their citizens lives a living hell that I would prefer the FBI to focus on rather than Clinton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampang2 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Am I missing something here? How can you "expand" a probe into something that you are already probing? In this case, they are examining Mrs Clinton's email behaviour - I don't particularly like the woman (I am not an American citizen and therefore do not have "any skin in the game") but even I find the investigation into whether she used this email or that email server tedious and hair-splitting to an extreme degree. How they can expand the probe into an even more hair-splitting exercise beats me. Look, it would appear that a number of subscribers on this forum hate Mrs Clinton - and no doubt they have reason for their views (I mean reasons above and beyond watching too much Fox TV). But surely there are better ways of arguing against her than some nonsense about email server use? And an FBI investigation? With all the Islamic Fundamental terrorists, murderers and pedophiles out there, I would have thought that Mrs Clinton would be the least of their worries. I mean, yeah you may not want her to be the next President of the USA but there are a few current and former African politicians who have actually committed mass murder, stolen vast sums and made their citizens lives a living hell that I would prefer the FBI to focus on rather than Clinton. If someone (big business) don't want her in office, they use FBI to get her of the table. US is just a long long history of maffia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckd Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) While this might be considered "tedious hair-splitting" to some of our friends from across the water, the matter of state security is somewhat important to quite a few, not least of all the US government. Hillary Clinton and her aides all signed a form SF-312 which details their individual responsibilities in the handling of classified materials. She is now being investigated for gross negligence in the handling of US defense information. Form SF-312 says in part... " As used in this Agreement, classified information is marked or unmarked classified information, including oral communications, that is classified under the standards of Executive Order 13526, or under any other Executive order or statute that prohibits the unauthorized disclosure of information in the interest of national security; and unclassified information that meets the standards for classification and is in the process of a classification determination as provided in sections 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4(e) of Executive Order 13526, or under any other Executive order or statute that requires protection for such information in the interest of national security. I understand and accept that by being granted access to classified information, special confidence and trust shall be placed in me by the United States Government." 1. Hillary has claimed she did not send any material that was "marked" classified so she is absolving herself from any blame. Unfortunately the form she signed states very clearly... "As used in this Agreement, classified information is marked or unmarked classified information, including oral communications" 2. Further form SF-312 goes on to add this little caveat... "...prohibits the unauthorized disclosure of information in the interest of national security; and unclassified information that meets the standards for classification and is in the process of a classification determination..." Since nearly 600 of her posts are now considered classified, it would seem at least those 600 would meet the standard for classification determination. 3. Form SF-312 goes on to add the following: " I hereby agree that I will never divulge classified information to anyone unless: (a) I have officially verified that the recipient has been properly authorized by the United States Government to receive it; or (b ) I have been given prior written notice of authorization from the United States Government Department or Agency (hereinafter Department or Agency) responsible for the classification of information or last granting me a security clearance that such disclosure is permitted. I understand that if I am uncertain about the classification status of information, I am required to confirm from an authorized official that the information is unclassified before I may disclose it, except to a person as provided in (a) or (b ), above. I further understand that I am obligated to comply with laws and regulations that prohibit the unauthorized disclosure of classified information." Her personal choice of Platte River as her email service provider would be a violation of this article since Platte River did not have a Facility Clearance as required by federal law. She and her aides were using an unauthorized server not cleared by DSS to handle classified information. She may yet skate by this latest scandal in a career of scandals, but only if Attorney General Loretta Lynch turns a blind eye to what she has done regarding the handling of classified information. If she does manage to become elected, it is possible we could have a Commander in Chief that is not cleared to handle classified information. Who gets the 3 AM phone call then? Link to PDF file: http://www.gsa.gov/portal/forms/download/116218 Edited November 13, 2015 by chuckd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 While this might be considered "tedious hair-splitting" to some of our friends from across the water, the matter of state security is somewhat important to quite a few, not least of all the US government. Hillary Clinton and her aides all signed a form SF-312 which details their individual responsibilities in the handling of classified materials. She is now being investigated for gross negligence in the handling of US defense information. Form SF-312 says in part... " As used in this Agreement, classified information is marked or unmarked classified information, including oral communications, that is classified under the standards of Executive Order 13526, or under any other Executive order or statute that prohibits the unauthorized disclosure of information in the interest of national security; and unclassified information that meets the standards for classification and is in the process of a classification determination as provided in sections 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4(e) of Executive Order 13526, or under any other Executive order or statute that requires protection for such information in the interest of national security. I understand and accept that by being granted access to classified information, special confidence and trust shall be placed in me by the United States Government." 1. Hillary has claimed she did not send any material that was "marked" classified so she is absolving herself from any blame. Unfortunately the form she signed states very clearly... "As used in this Agreement, classified information is marked or unmarked classified information, including oral communications" 2. Further form SF-312 goes on to add this little caveat... "...prohibits the unauthorized disclosure of information in the interest of national security; and unclassified information that meets the standards for classification and is in the process of a classification determination..." Since nearly 600 of her posts are now considered classified, it would seem at least those 600 would meet the standard for classification determination. 3. Form SF-312 goes on to add the following: " I hereby agree that I will never divulge classified information to anyone unless: (a) I have officially verified that the recipient has been properly authorized by the United States Government to receive it; or (b ) I have been given prior written notice of authorization from the United States Government Department or Agency (hereinafter Department or Agency) responsible for the classification of information or last granting me a security clearance that such disclosure is permitted. I understand that if I am uncertain about the classification status of information, I am required to confirm from an authorized official that the information is unclassified before I may disclose it, except to a person as provided in (a) or (b ), above. I further understand that I am obligated to comply with laws and regulations that prohibit the unauthorized disclosure of classified information." Her personal choice of Platte River as her email service provider would be a violation of this article since Platte River did not have a Facility Clearance as required by federal law. She and her aides were using an unauthorized server not cleared by DSS to handle classified information. She may yet skate by this latest scandal in a career of scandals, but only if Attorney General Loretta Lynch turns a blind eye to what she has done regarding the handling of classified information. If she does manage to become elected, it is possible we could have a Commander in Chief that is not cleared to handle classified information. Who gets the 3 AM phone call then? Link to PDF file: http://www.gsa.gov/portal/forms/download/116218 The rabid Hillary haters make these long posts that nobody reads. The sky is falling!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassman Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 While this might be considered "tedious hair-splitting" to some of our friends from across the water, the matter of state security is somewhat important to quite a few, not least of all the US government. Hillary Clinton and her aides all signed a form SF-312 which details their individual responsibilities in the handling of classified materials. She is now being investigated for gross negligence in the handling of US defense information. Form SF-312 says in part... " As used in this Agreement, classified information is marked or unmarked classified information, including oral communications, that is classified under the standards of Executive Order 13526, or under any other Executive order or statute that prohibits the unauthorized disclosure of information in the interest of national security; and unclassified information that meets the standards for classification and is in the process of a classification determination as provided in sections 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4(e) of Executive Order 13526, or under any other Executive order or statute that requires protection for such information in the interest of national security. I understand and accept that by being granted access to classified information, special confidence and trust shall be placed in me by the United States Government." 1. Hillary has claimed she did not send any material that was "marked" classified so she is absolving herself from any blame. Unfortunately the form she signed states very clearly... "As used in this Agreement, classified information is marked or unmarked classified information, including oral communications" 2. Further form SF-312 goes on to add this little caveat... "...prohibits the unauthorized disclosure of information in the interest of national security; and unclassified information that meets the standards for classification and is in the process of a classification determination..." Since nearly 600 of her posts are now considered classified, it would seem at least those 600 would meet the standard for classification determination. 3. Form SF-312 goes on to add the following: " I hereby agree that I will never divulge classified information to anyone unless: (a) I have officially verified that the recipient has been properly authorized by the United States Government to receive it; or (b ) I have been given prior written notice of authorization from the United States Government Department or Agency (hereinafter Department or Agency) responsible for the classification of information or last granting me a security clearance that such disclosure is permitted. I understand that if I am uncertain about the classification status of information, I am required to confirm from an authorized official that the information is unclassified before I may disclose it, except to a person as provided in (a) or (b ), above. I further understand that I am obligated to comply with laws and regulations that prohibit the unauthorized disclosure of classified information." Her personal choice of Platte River as her email service provider would be a violation of this article since Platte River did not have a Facility Clearance as required by federal law. She and her aides were using an unauthorized server not cleared by DSS to handle classified information. She may yet skate by this latest scandal in a career of scandals, but only if Attorney General Loretta Lynch turns a blind eye to what she has done regarding the handling of classified information. If she does manage to become elected, it is possible we could have a Commander in Chief that is not cleared to handle classified information. Who gets the 3 AM phone call then? Link to PDF file: http://www.gsa.gov/portal/forms/download/116218 Spot on Chuckd, the only witch hunt going on is that a witch is being investigated. Hillary and the democrats have gone so far left that the party is now socialist and the whole bunch has been considering themselves above the law. This has resulted in gross negligence, hope the axe falls on this behavior and sets precedence for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 While this might be considered "tedious hair-splitting" to some of our friends from across the water, the matter of state security is somewhat important to quite a few, not least of all the US government. Hillary Clinton and her aides all signed a form SF-312 which details their individual responsibilities in the handling of classified materials. She is now being investigated for gross negligence in the handling of US defense information. Form SF-312 says in part... " As used in this Agreement, classified information is marked or unmarked classified information, including oral communications, that is classified under the standards of Executive Order 13526, or under any other Executive order or statute that prohibits the unauthorized disclosure of information in the interest of national security; and unclassified information that meets the standards for classification and is in the process of a classification determination as provided in sections 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4(e) of Executive Order 13526, or under any other Executive order or statute that requires protection for such information in the interest of national security. I understand and accept that by being granted access to classified information, special confidence and trust shall be placed in me by the United States Government." 1. Hillary has claimed she did not send any material that was "marked" classified so she is absolving herself from any blame. Unfortunately the form she signed states very clearly... "As used in this Agreement, classified information is marked or unmarked classified information, including oral communications" 2. Further form SF-312 goes on to add this little caveat... "...prohibits the unauthorized disclosure of information in the interest of national security; and unclassified information that meets the standards for classification and is in the process of a classification determination..." Since nearly 600 of her posts are now considered classified, it would seem at least those 600 would meet the standard for classification determination. 3. Form SF-312 goes on to add the following: " I hereby agree that I will never divulge classified information to anyone unless: (a) I have officially verified that the recipient has been properly authorized by the United States Government to receive it; or (b ) I have been given prior written notice of authorization from the United States Government Department or Agency (hereinafter Department or Agency) responsible for the classification of information or last granting me a security clearance that such disclosure is permitted. I understand that if I am uncertain about the classification status of information, I am required to confirm from an authorized official that the information is unclassified before I may disclose it, except to a person as provided in (a) or (b ), above. I further understand that I am obligated to comply with laws and regulations that prohibit the unauthorized disclosure of classified information." Her personal choice of Platte River as her email service provider would be a violation of this article since Platte River did not have a Facility Clearance as required by federal law. She and her aides were using an unauthorized server not cleared by DSS to handle classified information. She may yet skate by this latest scandal in a career of scandals, but only if Attorney General Loretta Lynch turns a blind eye to what she has done regarding the handling of classified information. If she does manage to become elected, it is possible we could have a Commander in Chief that is not cleared to handle classified information. Who gets the 3 AM phone call then? Link to PDF file: http://www.gsa.gov/portal/forms/download/116218 Spot on Chuckd, the only witch hunt going on is that a witch is being investigated. Hillary and the democrats have gone so far left that the party is now socialist and the whole bunch has been considering themselves above the law. This has resulted in gross negligence, hope the axe falls on this behavior and sets precedence for all. Hmm, no, the Republicans have moved so far right that everything seems extreme left to them now. Even Reagan would seem very socialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) While this might be considered "tedious hair-splitting" to some of our friends from across the water, the matter of state security is somewhat important to quite a few, not least of all the US government. Hillary Clinton and her aides all signed a form SF-312 which details their individual responsibilities in the handling of classified materials. She is now being investigated for gross negligence in the handling of US defense information. Form SF-312 says in part... " As used in this Agreement, classified information is marked or unmarked classified information, including oral communications, that is classified under the standards of Executive Order 13526, or under any other Executive order or statute that prohibits the unauthorized disclosure of information in the interest of national security; and unclassified information that meets the standards for classification and is in the process of a classification determination as provided in sections 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4(e) of Executive Order 13526, or under any other Executive order or statute that requires protection for such information in the interest of national security. I understand and accept that by being granted access to classified information, special confidence and trust shall be placed in me by the United States Government." 1. Hillary has claimed she did not send any material that was "marked" classified so she is absolving herself from any blame. Unfortunately the form she signed states very clearly... "As used in this Agreement, classified information is marked or unmarked classified information, including oral communications" 2. Further form SF-312 goes on to add this little caveat... "...prohibits the unauthorized disclosure of information in the interest of national security; and unclassified information that meets the standards for classification and is in the process of a classification determination..." Since nearly 600 of her posts are now considered classified, it would seem at least those 600 would meet the standard for classification determination. 3. Form SF-312 goes on to add the following: " I hereby agree that I will never divulge classified information to anyone unless: (a) I have officially verified that the recipient has been properly authorized by the United States Government to receive it; or (b ) I have been given prior written notice of authorization from the United States Government Department or Agency (hereinafter Department or Agency) responsible for the classification of information or last granting me a security clearance that such disclosure is permitted. I understand that if I am uncertain about the classification status of information, I am required to confirm from an authorized official that the information is unclassified before I may disclose it, except to a person as provided in (a) or (b ), above. I further understand that I am obligated to comply with laws and regulations that prohibit the unauthorized disclosure of classified information." Her personal choice of Platte River as her email service provider would be a violation of this article since Platte River did not have a Facility Clearance as required by federal law. She and her aides were using an unauthorized server not cleared by DSS to handle classified information. She may yet skate by this latest scandal in a career of scandals, but only if Attorney General Loretta Lynch turns a blind eye to what she has done regarding the handling of classified information. If she does manage to become elected, it is possible we could have a Commander in Chief that is not cleared to handle classified information. Who gets the 3 AM phone call then? Link to PDF file: http://www.gsa.gov/portal/forms/download/116218 Spot on Chuckd, the only witch hunt going on is that a witch is being investigated. Hillary and the democrats have gone so far left that the party is now socialist and the whole bunch has been considering themselves above the law. This has resulted in gross negligence, hope the axe falls on this behavior and sets precedence for all. Put this in perspective, when conservatives argue that Hillary Clinton was negligent ahead of the Benghazi attacks. 4 guys doing dirty work in a war zone were killed vs 3,000+ Americans going about their daily lives being slaughtered while Bush was sleepwalking. Compared to the multiple warnings received by President George W. Bush ahead of the 9/11 attacks, its easy to see a double-standard. The FBI delivered warnings just weeks before the 9-11 attacks, including directly to the president, but little was done. ‘There will be significant terrorist attacks against the United States in the coming weeks or months. The attacks will be spectacular. They may be multiple. Al Qaeda’s intention is the destruction of the United States.’” In sum, Bush never mobilised domestic agencies in response to the threat. They did not have direction, and did not have a plan & the borders were not hardened. Transportation systems were not fortified. Electronic surveillance was not targeted against a domestic threat. State and local law enforcement were not marshalled to augment the FBI’s efforts. The public was not warned. There were just 2 congressional investigations into the 9-11 attacks. There have been 8 individual inquiries into Benghazzi still going 3 years later. Edited November 13, 2015 by RidgeRunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 The rabid Hillary haters make these long posts that nobody reads.The sky is falling!!!!! Well that is the only way she'll get close to heaven, if the sky falls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expat1 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Well, the Americans may get lucky and she be discredited and be discarded from the Presidential race. However, I doubt it. The powers that be there want her in that position because she is so very cooperative and readily manipulated by and for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andaman Al Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 As ridgerunner says, the US have now spent more time and money investigating this than they did 9/11. Great how the FBI simply investigate because of media reports. Fox will keep them employed on wild goose chases for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 This Streetwise Journal the article is sourced from seems a little strange. Offices in Virginia and Hong Kong, odd tidbits like a baby in Bangladesh with two heads... Maybe the US gov't will give the tab for these recurring investigations to the RNC, get their PACs to pay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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