What Do Thai Girls Expect From A Farang?

[GuestHouse]

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Let me clarify that.

Just like, because a girl works in a bar does not make her a vixen, nor does the fact that a girl does not come from a bar guarantee that she's not a viper. Many a man has been bitten by a what can only be described as a "Gifted Amateur".

Too often, a guy makes a wrong choice and then blames the girl.

Edited October 9, 2006 by GuestHouse

[TRIPxCORE]

As a relative newbie around here I find myself wondering why so many of the fellas seem to know the details of LovelyCutie's life...

Some of us are just joking around with her. Some of us live in Thailand and have met her. Some of us are her friends.

We are friends and I can vouch that her English is top notch. She is the only Thai person in Thailand that I have been able to talk to without having to alter my speech so they can understand.

First off, we are all not money grabbing little bitches, you know.

Sometimes, it's difficult for Thai girls who have dated foreign men before to date Thai men. A good number of Thai men wouldn't touch Thai girls who have been with foreigners. So, if a Thai girl has dated a foreigner, her chance of hooking up with a Thai guy gets slimmer.

LOL, tell that to Tippaporn

I think that was a little uncalled for even if you're just joking around. C'mon man!!!!

For every sick buffalo/leaking roof, there’s a foreign guy spinning some BS about owning a Porsche /Ferrari or not being able to make the promised return trip to Thailand because of some pressing big business deal – You have to read the Bull Sh1t to believe it.

Really? I guess they were trying to sound impressive to these girls but how stupid of them. They obviously know nothing about Thailand or about how to be careful. I could see men in Western countries talking like this to Western ladies but not to Thai women.

Edited October 9, 2006 by TRIPxCORE

[Neeranam]

The "long legged blonde" archetype so many foreigners get wild about can seem rather everyday to someone who has been around them all their life.

After many years around the Thai short-asses, the Swedish woman looks VERY nice.

Has anyone ever noticed how Isarn women have a strange leg to body ratio?

[Ulysses]

First off, I am using my b.f's account to post.

So.. what makes most of you guys (farangs) think you are so good in bed? Did you take a poll? Is it based on the comments of women you claim are interested in you for status/money/better life?

If you assume they are interested in you for the above and not "for who you are as a person" then maybe for SOME of you, your ego's are being stroked.

Women will tell other women how good or bad a man is in bed. In general, we will never tell a guy, what a "good lay" he was. If a women were to tell a man, it would 95% be because he was a bad lay, and we know it, and we don't want him to feel bad. It is like faking an orgasm so that we can move on.

[Donz]

First off, I am using my b.f's account to post.

So.. what makes most of you guys (farangs) think you are so good in bed? Did you take a poll? Is it based on the comments of women you claim are interested in you for status/money/better life?

If you assume they are interested in you for the above and not "for who you are as a person" then maybe for SOME of you, your ego's are being stroked.

Women will tell other women how good or bad a man is in bed. In general, we will never tell a guy, what a "good lay" he was. If a women were to tell a man, it would 95% be because he was a bad lay, and we know it, and we don't want him to feel bad. It is like faking an orgasm so that we can move on.

Now you have me worried

[Rumourz]

-Thai girl has dated a farang before and now thai men is not interested anymore (why?).

This doesn't only applicable to Thai girl. General speaking in Asia, if any Asian girl who had dated a farang man, generally Asian men are not interested in dating her anymore. The reason, I was told by one of these guys was, they were intimidated by the farang (be it in HK, Malaysia, Singapore or even in Shanghai). It's all about self-conscious...

[Rajah]

I used to translate letters between Thais and their foreign b/fs and the foreign b/fs and their Thai g/fs.

I did that, too (in bars): "I miss you every day and every night. I love you so much. Can you send me some money?"

Was always fun.................

Edited October 10, 2006 by Rajah

[Donz]

-Thai girl has dated a farang before and now thai men is not interested anymore (why?).

This doesn't only applicable to Thai girl. General speaking in Asia, if any Asian girl who had dated a farang man, generally Asian men are not interested in dating her anymore. The reason, I was told by one of these guys was, they were intimidated by the farang (be it in HK, Malaysia, Singapore or even in Shanghai). It's all about self-conscious...

Actually its only a small minority who think like that, the majority dont really care who they been with before hand. Its a myth thats been thrown around

[LaReina]

QUOTE(klink @ 2006-10-09 20:37:18)

-Thai girl has dated a farang before and now thai men is not interested anymore (why?).

Maybe because generally speaking, the female will appear to be HIGH MAINTENANCE or expect more and complain a lot.

[kmart]

Has anyone ever noticed how Isarn women have a strange leg to body ratio?

All of them? A lot of Isarn girls have wide feet though. Its for traversing rice paddy quickly.

[Rumourz]

QUOTE(klink @ 2006-10-09 20:37:18)

-Thai girl has dated a farang before and now thai men is not interested anymore (why?).

Maybe because generally speaking, the female will appear to be HIGH MAINTENANCE or expect more and complain a lot.

I disagree on this general statement. UNLESS the previous farang that she dated before was a "money tree", otherwise, this is not true.

[dgoz]

With regards to the O/P, Thai women expect a great deal less than their western counterparts. And in return give a great deal more.

I dated women in farangland for 15 years before my first Asian gf and I was immediately hooked. I then spent 5 years going back and forth from Asian girls to farang women until I just didn't bother with farangettes anymore,there's no comparison.

So don't worry too much about what a Thai girl expects from you.She doesnt expect that much. I find a good sense of humour and a lot of affection does the trick. You can also take them shopping and spoil them occassionally. (the good thing about going shopping in Thailand is that it's much cheaper than in farangland).

But be warned, after you've experienced the pleasures of being with a women who is comfortable with and is proud of her feminity, it's nearly impossible to go back to western women.

[elsie]

So.. what makes most of you guys (farangs) think you are so good in bed? Did you take a poll? Is it based on the comments of women you claim are interested in you for status/money/better life?

I think you just picked that certain point and dropped all contexts.

Women will tell other women how good or bad a man is in bed. In general, we will never tell a guy, what a "good lay" he was. If a women were to tell a man, it would 95% be because he was a bad lay, and we know it, and we don't want him to feel bad. It is like faking an orgasm so that we can move on.

Maybe it's just me. But I actually tell my man, not my female friends, that he is good in the sack. Simply because it's him I'm sleeping with, not my friend. It's when I never say "That was good, baby" that he should start worrying.

[TRIPxCORE]

So.. what makes most of you guys (farangs) think you are so good in bed? Did you take a poll? Is it based on the comments of women you claim are interested in you for status/money/better life?

I think you just picked that certain point and dropped all contexts.

Women will tell other women how good or bad a man is in bed. In general, we will never tell a guy, what a "good lay" he was. If a women were to tell a man, it would 95% be because he was a bad lay, and we know it, and we don't want him to feel bad. It is like faking an orgasm so that we can move on.

Maybe it's just me. But I actually tell my man, not my female friends, that he is good in the sack. Simply because it's him I'm sleeping with, not my friend. It's when I never say "That was good, baby" that he should start worrying.

More women should take a cue from you LC my dear.

[Heng]

-Thai girl has dated a farang before and now thai men is not interested anymore (why?).

This doesn't only applicable to Thai girl. General speaking in Asia, if any Asian girl who had dated a farang man, generally Asian men are not interested in dating her anymore. The reason, I was told by one of these guys was, they were intimidated by the farang (be it in HK, Malaysia, Singapore or even in Shanghai). It's all about self-conscious...

Actually its only a small minority who think like that, the majority dont really care who they been with before hand. Its a myth thats been thrown around

I think it's more like the way some westerners feel about white gals who have been with black guys. You'd still shag'em, but would you really want to take Heidi Klum or J.Lo home to meet your folks? Intimidation hardly an issue, more of a class/hierarchy consciousness.

[Heng]

And when it goes wrong, they blame the woman, like they blamed the last woman before that.

^

An important thing to consider when reading threads like these.

Not saying this applies to the OP's case, but the title of the thread sounds more like the age old "what do you expect from me?" type of question when men and women have arguments (since the beginning of time).

[Ijustwannateach]

I was just about to add that this seems just like a variant of the old cry, "What do women WANT?"

[satu]

1) one big house

2) one car

3) ATM card

4) gold

5) money

6) more money

By the way, better you looking for a girl from Sweden

[GuestHouse]

But be warned, after you've experienced the pleasures of being with a women who is comfortable with and is proud of her feminity, it's nearly impossible to go back to western women.

That's almost as outrageous as the assertion that all Thai men are wife beating womanizing drunkard gamblers.

If your having trouble finding anything feminine in all western women then its time to start looking at the common denominator.

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So don't worry too much about what a Thai girl expects from you. She doesnt expect that much.

Perhaps that's just as well.

Edited October 10, 2006 by GuestHouse

[Donz]

-Thai girl has dated a farang before and now thai men is not interested anymore (why?).

This doesn't only applicable to Thai girl. General speaking in Asia, if any Asian girl who had dated a farang man, generally Asian men are not interested in dating her anymore. The reason, I was told by one of these guys was, they were intimidated by the farang (be it in HK, Malaysia, Singapore or even in Shanghai). It's all about self-conscious...

Actually its only a small minority who think like that, the majority dont really care who they been with before hand. Its a myth thats been thrown around

I think it's more like the way some westerners feel about white gals who have been with black guys. You'd still shag'em, but would you really want to take Heidi Klum or J.Lo home to meet your folks? Intimidation hardly an issue, more of a class/hierarchy consciousness.

Yeah speak for yourself, I would take Heidi Klum or J Lo to meet my folks anyday.

[Ijustwannateach]

I'd say that if you're going to make things last in any relationship- you both need to have the same values and perspective on the long term issues. If you want your prospective wife to work and her ultimate goal is to be a homemaker, that's not going to work out- and she may not tell you directly, either. Actions speak louder than words, so watch what she does. I think that Thais, and maybe people in general, really rarely do what they don't want to do (unless it is absolutely necessary), so by watching what they do when not under pressure you can learn what they want.

[katnip]

Some very perceptive comments from Guesthouse and Ijustwannateach.

I was reading an article about Japan at http://www.focusweb.org/content/view/341/94/

which contains the follwing :

An ordinary 38-year-old housewife in Osaka, who serves as a schoolteacher and takes care of the child while her husband works in Tokyo, told me, ''The growing gap in men and women's expectations ­ that is this country's No 1 problem. I simply can't accept it when my husband tells me that the reason he stays with me is to have somebody take care of him when he's old."

A 30-year-old manager in a Tokyo-based NGO tells me that practically all of her friends who got married are now divorced and in no hurry to get remarried. ''It's this widening gap between traditional male expectations and women's changing values that's making more and more of women of my generation choose to remain unmarried,' she stated.

''Narita-divorces" are on the rise, she says, referring to a phenomenon whereby love-struck lovers leave for their honeymoon from Narita airport only to return wanting a quick divorce. ''Most Japanese men just don't get it," she concludes, revealing that she herself preferred to have a long-term relationship with a non-Japanese.

The same must already be happening in some sectors here, though obviously this would only be a small fraction of the population.

More sophisticated Thai women might increasingly be looking for a more "liberated" man. Many Western men here, of course, seem to prefer a more traditional allocation of roles. As others have noted, in the eyes of many Thai women, it seems these men might appear less traditional than their Thai counterparts. An interesting and serendiptious point in the intercultural flux ?

And the future will be very interesting ... would be interesting to follow the values of many the bi-cultural kids growing up here.

[Donz]

Some very perceptive comments from Guesthouse and Ijustwannateach.

I was reading an article about Japan at http://www.focusweb.org/content/view/341/94/

which contains the follwing :

An ordinary 38-year-old housewife in Osaka, who serves as a schoolteacher and takes care of the child while her husband works in Tokyo, told me, ''The growing gap in men and women's expectations ­ that is this country's No 1 problem. I simply can't accept it when my husband tells me that the reason he stays with me is to have somebody take care of him when he's old."

A 30-year-old manager in a Tokyo-based NGO tells me that practically all of her friends who got married are now divorced and in no hurry to get remarried. ''It's this widening gap between traditional male expectations and women's changing values that's making more and more of women of my generation choose to remain unmarried,' she stated.

''Narita-divorces" are on the rise, she says, referring to a phenomenon whereby love-struck lovers leave for their honeymoon from Narita airport only to return wanting a quick divorce. ''Most Japanese men just don't get it," she concludes, revealing that she herself preferred to have a long-term relationship with a non-Japanese.

The same must already be happening in some sectors here, though obviously this would only be a small fraction of the population.

More sophisticated Thai women might increasingly be looking for a more "liberated" man. Many Western men here, of course, seem to prefer a more traditional allocation of roles. As others have noted, in the eyes of many Thai women, it seems these men might appear less traditional than their Thai counterparts. An interesting and serendiptious point in the intercultural flux ?

And the future will be very interesting ... would be interesting to follow the values of many the bi-cultural kids growing up here.

Actually thats correct, My step brother is full korean and he makes his wife do everything, she cooks, cleans, and does all of the housework as she has been grown up believeing that its a females role in a relationship. Im definately not like that but I can see females would welcome a change in sharing the chores. In some instances the man does everything because he is too pussy whipped

[teej]

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Let me clarify that.

Just like, because a girl works in a bar does not make her a vixen, nor does the fact that a girl does not come from a bar guarantee that she's not a viper. Many a man has been bitten by a what can only be described as a "Gifted Amateur".

Too often, a guy makes a wrong choice and then blames the girl.

I should have stressed the "worst of the west" part -- which is what i was thinking in my head with relation to the "girlie bars."

[terry57]

when you punters got it all sorted out and 100% sussed, let me know will you as im getting real confused reading all your bleeding posts.

cricky's mates.

cheers punting friends.

[englishoak]

The answer is 2.6

[Clive sorts]

Baht

[Donz]

After reading most of the posts, its pretty safe to say that nobody has a clue really.

[Valjean]

After reading most of the posts, its pretty safe to say that nobody has a clue really.

I don't have a clue so I thought I'd just ask my gf who should be an expert on these things.

Last night I asked in the nicest voice possible "What do you want from me?"

Laughing gently she said "Why don't you ask an interesting question."

End of conversation.

Even if I don’t know from my experience – knowing and dating a range of women (money, age, background, etc.) here is what I’ve learned;

They want love but have a more practical view of this than a western woman, or you, might. This is one of the reasons age isn’t such a factor.

They want a nice man – easy on the anger, yelling, etc. You don’t have to be Mr. Perfect. They want to be respected – which does mean saving face sometimes. My GF says there are three vices that get men in trouble; Drinking, Gambling and Women. She has been taught that you can live with a man that has one, if not to extreme. But walk away from two. Fortunately I am a light drinker and don’t gamble….

They want sanook. Enjoy a good life, time with family and friends, taking it easy, going to the beach, eating. I’d say it’s a relaxed pace to life if possible. Rat race not so interesting.

They want to be financially secure. Just like people in the west. The reality is in most cases marrying a farang is marrying up. I think it’s fair to say that most places in the world, especially before the last 20 years, women look to marry for financial security for their family and to possibly improve their circumstances. My 80 year old mom told me recently that when she was shopping for a husband she was “looking for a briefcase, not a lunch pail.”. She, out of all of her lower-middle-working class family, did this and lives very well off today. (and I also think to this day she feels a little out of her class.) I don’t think her aspirations and those of a Thai village girl are much different. I think the only change has been in women really entering the workforce as equals in income the past 20 years. In spite of all the horror stores and joking here I don’t think most Thai women, outside of the most hardened BG’s, are after “get rich quick” and to milk a man dry, but money is part of the deal. (see Love above).

I’d agree with a comment above that the western man who is looking for more traditional woman would still seem less so compared to Thai men. In many cases the Thai woman gets a more accommodating, less demanding man and the Farang man gets a more traditional “take care of her man” woman and they can both be happy. Assuming they don’t trip up on the cultural issues or any of the above.

Edited October 11, 2006 by Valjean

[LaReina]

I think it's more like the way some westerners feel about white gals who have been with black guys. You'd still shag'em, but would you really want to take Heidi Klum or J.Lo home to meet your folks? Intimidation hardly an issue, more of a class/hierarchy consciousness.

That is quite an interesting statement. So when a white girl has been with a black guy, she drops down a class?