Govt. to announce achievements in 2015 next week

[rubl]

I have been on a sabbatical from these forums for many months due to the fact subjects like this one were infested with boot lickers intent on squabbling in Troll like fashion.

Now, the tone has changed significantly. Refreshing.

I was suspicious of this autocratic buffoon from day one.

There were many before who truly believed this fascist was coming to the rescue on his white horse.

Seems they have all duly slunk back into the woodwork…

P.S. And if some boot licker does plan on responding to me, fuggedaboutit.

I have a new policy: I don't reply anymore.

You are quite right sir. There were an army of foaming out the mouth junta apologists but they are seldom seen these days.

I wonder why

I'll tell you why : forums tend to degenerate down to the lowest common denominator. Intelligent people have learned it is pointless to argue with an idiot and they do something better with their time.

You people should be embarrassed at the dross you post here - but you all seem happy and proud of it. The funny (and a bit sad) part is how you don't even realise it.

If you go back to threads 18 months ago, it is amazing how intelligent and grown up the arguments were. Now it is like some kind of red-shirt school-dodgers mutual support group.

Judging by your boorish, ignorant and poorly thought through posts I'm not sure whether you should be making judgements on other peoples intelligence.You of course won't get the reference but others may recognise Caliban raging at his own reflection.

The topic is however the Junta's achievements in office.Even the normally Junta friendly BP was unable to identify any real reforms other than fixing the lottery price at 80 Baht.What a cosmic joke this travesty of a government is.In the name of God just go.

jayboy is of course referring to the Shakespeare play The Tempest

As for the cosmic joke, well must be your sense of humour, especially invoking God to help you in your opinion.

A few more days and we'll know the governments achievements. At least government wise the announcement will be an improvement as the previous government never seemed to have gotten around listing their, somehow.

[rubl]

If you are able to read the Bangkok Post column today on this very subject, the lady journalist just about sums it up.

Very well written, but think she may be in a spot of bother as a result

Yes it was an excellent and amusingly sarcastic piece.Yet it illustrates the Junta's dilemma in dealing with criticism - now stuck wobbling between crude repression and resigned tolerance.That's not actually a viable policy in dealing with hostile criticism.

There's no doubt now that a significant portion of the educated urban middle class, once largely supportive, has turned against the Junta.

Actually it shows the dilemma of a government which has the power but is reluctant to use it to push through economical measures. Rightly so as rushed activities would only shortly seem worthwhile.

As for 'significant portion' that's your interpretation. I get the impression that the educated urban middle class is relatively satisfied, at least from what I see here in Bangkok.

[jayboy]

If you are able to read the Bangkok Post column today on this very subject, the lady journalist just about sums it up.

Very well written, but think she may be in a spot of bother as a result

Yes it was an excellent and amusingly sarcastic piece.Yet it illustrates the Junta's dilemma in dealing with criticism - now stuck wobbling between crude repression and resigned tolerance.That's not actually a viable policy in dealing with hostile criticism.

There's no doubt now that a significant portion of the educated urban middle class, once largely supportive, has turned against the Junta.

Actually it shows the dilemma of a government which has the power but is reluctant to use it to push through economical measures. Rightly so as rushed activities would only shortly seem worthwhile.

As for 'significant portion' that's your interpretation. I get the impression that the educated urban middle class is relatively satisfied, at least from what I see here in Bangkok.

I don't agree with your first paragraph.You are attributing a capacity for strategy when no such capacity exists.

I'm sure there is a lumpen section of the Sino Thai middle class that thinks as you suggest.Though whether you have the connections to make such a broad judgement is something I doubt.

[jayboy]

I have been on a sabbatical from these forums for many months due to the fact subjects like this one were infested with boot lickers intent on squabbling in Troll like fashion.

Now, the tone has changed significantly. Refreshing.

I was suspicious of this autocratic buffoon from day one.

There were many before who truly believed this fascist was coming to the rescue on his white horse.

Seems they have all duly slunk back into the woodwork…

P.S. And if some boot licker does plan on responding to me, fuggedaboutit.

I have a new policy: I don't reply anymore.

You are quite right sir. There were an army of foaming out the mouth junta apologists but they are seldom seen these days.

I wonder why

I'll tell you why : forums tend to degenerate down to the lowest common denominator. Intelligent people have learned it is pointless to argue with an idiot and they do something better with their time.

You people should be embarrassed at the dross you post here - but you all seem happy and proud of it. The funny (and a bit sad) part is how you don't even realise it.

If you go back to threads 18 months ago, it is amazing how intelligent and grown up the arguments were. Now it is like some kind of red-shirt school-dodgers mutual support group.

Judging by your boorish, ignorant and poorly thought through posts I'm not sure whether you should be making judgements on other peoples intelligence.You of course won't get the reference but others may recognise Caliban raging at his own reflection.

The topic is however the Junta's achievements in office.Even the normally Junta friendly BP was unable to identify any real reforms other than fixing the lottery price at 80 Baht.What a cosmic joke this travesty of a government is.In the name of God just go.

jayboy is of course referring to the Shakespeare play The Tempest

As for the cosmic joke, well must be your sense of humour, especially invoking God to help you in your opinion.

A few more days and we'll know the governments achievements. At least government wise the announcement will be an improvement as the previous government never seemed to have gotten around listing their, somehow.

Having gone to the effort of checking Wikipedia it's a pity your post couldn't contain something less air headed.

[rubl]

If you are able to read the Bangkok Post column today on this very subject, the lady journalist just about sums it up.

Very well written, but think she may be in a spot of bother as a result

Yes it was an excellent and amusingly sarcastic piece.Yet it illustrates the Junta's dilemma in dealing with criticism - now stuck wobbling between crude repression and resigned tolerance.That's not actually a viable policy in dealing with hostile criticism.

There's no doubt now that a significant portion of the educated urban middle class, once largely supportive, has turned against the Junta.

Actually it shows the dilemma of a government which has the power but is reluctant to use it to push through economical measures. Rightly so as rushed activities would only shortly seem worthwhile.

As for 'significant portion' that's your interpretation. I get the impression that the educated urban middle class is relatively satisfied, at least from what I see here in Bangkok.

I don't agree with your first paragraph.You are attributing a capacity for strategy when no such capacity exists.

I'm sure there is a lumpen section of the Sino Thai middle class that thinks as you suggest.Though whether you have the connections to make such a broad judgement is something I doubt.

All in your own opinion of course.

BTW it would seem there is a major achievement. Where hardly two years ago we had a Thai population condoning and actively participating in corruption as part of 'Thainess' there is now more and more demand for actions against corruption. That indicates a mindset change in a population one would not think possible in such short time.

[rubl]

jayboy is of course referring to the Shakespeare play The Tempest

As for the cosmic joke, well must be your sense of humour, especially invoking God to help you in your opinion.

A few more days and we'll know the governments achievements. At least government wise the announcement will be an improvement as the previous government never seemed to have gotten around listing their, somehow.

Having gone to the effort of checking Wikipedia it's a pity your post couldn't contain something less air headed.

Actually I yahoo-ed. Not all non-native English speakers like myself had to suffer from Shakespeare's fondness of writing. I guess some who did suffer liked that particular scene in "Blackadder, back and forth".

As for air headed, why did my reference to the previous government make you think about airheads I wonder.

[jayboy]

If you are able to read the Bangkok Post column today on this very subject, the lady journalist just about sums it up.

Very well written, but think she may be in a spot of bother as a result

Yes it was an excellent and amusingly sarcastic piece.Yet it illustrates the Junta's dilemma in dealing with criticism - now stuck wobbling between crude repression and resigned tolerance.That's not actually a viable policy in dealing with hostile criticism.

There's no doubt now that a significant portion of the educated urban middle class, once largely supportive, has turned against the Junta.

Actually it shows the dilemma of a government which has the power but is reluctant to use it to push through economical measures. Rightly so as rushed activities would only shortly seem worthwhile.

As for 'significant portion' that's your interpretation. I get the impression that the educated urban middle class is relatively satisfied, at least from what I see here in Bangkok.

I don't agree with your first paragraph.You are attributing a capacity for strategy when no such capacity exists.

I'm sure there is a lumpen section of the Sino Thai middle class that thinks as you suggest.Though whether you have the connections to make such a broad judgement is something I doubt.

All in your own opinion of course.

BTW it would seem there is a major achievement. Where hardly two years ago we had a Thai population condoning and actively participating in corruption as part of 'Thainess' there is now more and more demand for actions against corruption. That indicates a mindset change in a population one would not think possible in such short time.

I expect you are one of those who consider one man's opinion is as valid as another's.It isn't.

You are lamentably mistaken about corruption which continues on the same scale as before with the Junta also implicated.

Corruption was the excuse for the coup not its cause.You are right that the Thai people are sick of corruption but this Junta is not going to address the issue - as opposed to windy rhetoric.

Your comment that the Thai population was actively participating in corruption is a lie and a defamation contrary to the rules of this forum.

[Skywalker69]

Whatever they have done, the have done more than PTP.

[rubl]

I don't agree with your first paragraph.You are attributing a capacity for strategy when no such capacity exists.

I'm sure there is a lumpen section of the Sino Thai middle class that thinks as you suggest.Though whether you have the connections to make such a broad judgement is something I doubt.

All in your own opinion of course.

BTW it would seem there is a major achievement. Where hardly two years ago we had a Thai population condoning and actively participating in corruption as part of 'Thainess' there is now more and more demand for actions against corruption. That indicates a mindset change in a population one would not think possible in such short time.

I expect you are one of those who consider one man's opinion is as valid as another's.It isn't.

You are lamentably mistaken about corruption which continues on the same scale as before with the Junta also implicated.

Corruption was the excuse for the coup not its cause.You are right that the Thai people are sick of corruption but this Junta is not going to address the issue - as opposed to windy rhetoric.

Your comment that the Thai population was actively participating in corruption is a lie and a defamation contrary to the rules of this forum.

I understand you consider your own opinion of much greater worth than that of anyone else. That's OK.

As for the 'excuse' for the coup I've heard many, but corruption was not really one of them.

The current government has made only small inroads in fighting corruption, but they have managed to make the population more aware of the need to fight corruption and they even managed to make the population active in going against corruption. With corruption part of Thai life it would be absurd to think corruption to go away just like that, or by waving a magic wand.

BTW Posted 2014-03-07 06:44:40

Corruption is part of Thai mindset

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/709134-corruption-is-part-of-thai-mindset/

[jayboy]

I don't agree with your first paragraph.You are attributing a capacity for strategy when no such capacity exists.

I'm sure there is a lumpen section of the Sino Thai middle class that thinks as you suggest.Though whether you have the connections to make such a broad judgement is something I doubt.

All in your own opinion of course.

BTW it would seem there is a major achievement. Where hardly two years ago we had a Thai population condoning and actively participating in corruption as part of 'Thainess' there is now more and more demand for actions against corruption. That indicates a mindset change in a population one would not think possible in such short time.

I expect you are one of those who consider one man's opinion is as valid as another's.It isn't.

You are lamentably mistaken about corruption which continues on the same scale as before with the Junta also implicated.

Corruption was the excuse for the coup not its cause.You are right that the Thai people are sick of corruption but this Junta is not going to address the issue - as opposed to windy rhetoric.

Your comment that the Thai population was actively participating in corruption is a lie and a defamation contrary to the rules of this forum.

I understand you consider your own opinion of much greater worth than that of anyone else. That's OK.

As for the 'excuse' for the coup I've heard many, but corruption was not really one of them.

The current government has made only small inroads in fighting corruption, but they have managed to make the population more aware of the need to fight corruption and they even managed to make the population active in going against corruption. With corruption part of Thai life it would be absurd to think corruption to go away just like that, or by waving a magic wand.

BTW Posted 2014-03-07 06:44:40

Corruption is part of Thai mindset

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/709134-corruption-is-part-of-thai-mindset/

Not of everyone else by any means.

If you didn't hear the constant invocation of corruption by the coupsters, you weren't listening at all.

Your last paragraph is unsubstantiated wishful thinking.I agree the fight against corruption is important but the Junta is too badly compromised to take on this role.

My final point is that the mantra of corruption is often in the heads of the unelected elites just code to denigrate electoral democracy and the influence of politicians.In Thailand in the eyes of these self appointed good people politicians are always "corrupt".

[rubl]

All in your own opinion of course.

BTW it would seem there is a major achievement. Where hardly two years ago we had a Thai population condoning and actively participating in corruption as part of 'Thainess' there is now more and more demand for actions against corruption. That indicates a mindset change in a population one would not think possible in such short time.

I expect you are one of those who consider one man's opinion is as valid as another's.It isn't.

You are lamentably mistaken about corruption which continues on the same scale as before with the Junta also implicated.

Corruption was the excuse for the coup not its cause.You are right that the Thai people are sick of corruption but this Junta is not going to address the issue - as opposed to windy rhetoric.

Your comment that the Thai population was actively participating in corruption is a lie and a defamation contrary to the rules of this forum.

I understand you consider your own opinion of much greater worth than that of anyone else. That's OK.

As for the 'excuse' for the coup I've heard many, but corruption was not really one of them.

The current government has made only small inroads in fighting corruption, but they have managed to make the population more aware of the need to fight corruption and they even managed to make the population active in going against corruption. With corruption part of Thai life it would be absurd to think corruption to go away just like that, or by waving a magic wand.

BTW Posted 2014-03-07 06:44:40

Corruption is part of Thai mindset

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/709134-corruption-is-part-of-thai-mindset/

Not of everyone else by any means.

If you didn't hear the constant invocation of corruption by the coupsters, you weren't listening at all.

Your last paragraph is unsubstantiated wishful thinking.I agree the fight against corruption is important but the Junta is too badly compromised to take on this role.

My final point is that the mantra of corruption is often in the heads of the unelected elites just code to denigrate electoral democracy and the influence of politicians.In Thailand in the eyes of these self appointed good people politicians are always "corrupt".

Thank you for your party political broadcast.

Reason for the coup?

"What prompted the coup?

The military says it has taken control of the government and suspended the constitution in order to restore order and enact political reforms.

Thailand is currently in a political mess. The country has been in the grip of unrest for months, with the opposition saying the democratically elected government must go because it is corrupt. A number of people have been killed in the violence."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-25149484

The link I provided may suggest that anyone in Thailand is too badly compromised. Shall we invite the UN to take over for a decade or two? That should be sufficient for a decent educational program and a new generation of 'model' citizens.