webfact Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Phuket motorbike rental operator posts 30k baht reward for Ukrainian man's arrestPhuket GazetteUkrainian national Ivan Tretiak is wanted for defalcation. Photo: passportPHUKET: -- The owner of a Phuket bike rental shop put up a 30,000-baht reward on December 18 for any information leading to the return of a stolen bike.Chalong Police secured an arrest warrant for Ukrainian national Ivan Tretiak, 25, two days prior to the posted reward.“Mr Tretiak is wanted for defalcation. I am currently working on two separate cases involving the suspect and believe that he is involved in more,” Maj Thada Sodarak of the Chalong Police told the Phuket Gazette this morning. “It is not an easy case at this point, because we don’t even know if he is still in Phuket.”Mr Tretiak allegedly made off with one of Anyaphach Karaya’s Honda PCX motorbikes, valued at about 68,000 baht, which was supposed to have been returned on November 23. Since then, Mr Anyaphach has been unable to contact Mr Tretiak by the telephone number provided.Full story: http://www.phuketgazette.net/phuket-news/Phuket-motorbike-rental-operator-posts-30k-baht/62688?desktopversion-- Phuket Gazette 2015-12-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinmaew Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Suffer a-holes motorbike rentals screwing tourists charging exorbitant fees and confiscating passports; how does it feel you can't beat those Eastern Europeans, they know when an easy buck is to be made. Now you know how foreigners feel when you fleece them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Defalcation is a strange way to describe a motorbike hire gone bad ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defalcation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Not the first time I see a "wanted" poster for a person stealing a rented bike. And that was at the entrance door of a shop I walked by (in Pattaya). And the passport also had this "strange script" Must be a "cultural thing". And exactly such crooks are a reason for some renters to be over cautious/distrustful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetime Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Hats off, to the gentleman from the Ukraine... Turnabout is fair play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihalis Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Suffer a-holes motorbike rentals screwing tourists charging exorbitant fees and confiscating passports; how does it feel you can't beat those Eastern Europeans, they know when an easy buck is to be made. Now you know how foreigners feel when you fleece them. Exorbitant fees, really, confiscating passports really, when a copy is fine,, Only a STUPID person would give the original passport... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deli Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I thought it's illegal to take the Passport as a deposit... ? So it can't be illegal to leave a fake one, hmmm ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Defalcation is a strange way to describe a motorbike hire gone bad ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defalcation perhaps "defecation" more appropriate if the renter feels hes been crapped on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bark Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I thought it's illegal to take the Passport as a deposit... ? So it can't be illegal to leave a fake one, hmmm ? Did you ever think that it could be a copy ! Same as the banks, hotels, immigration, etc etc ; copies your passport !! hmmm ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Defalcation is a strange way to describe a motorbike hire gone bad ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defalcation i read defecation at first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recom273 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Suffer a-holes motorbike rentals screwing tourists charging exorbitant fees and confiscating passports; how does it feel you can't beat those Eastern Europeans, they know when an easy buck is to be made. Now you know how foreigners feel when you fleece them. That's a bit rich isn't it .. Looks like the guy has taken a photocopy of the guys passport, possibly taken a small ( worthless ) deposit and the tourist has either stolen it or written it off .. Whatever, he's down a bike. Don't you have reputable bike hire shops in Phuket ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotpoom Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) "defalcation" of a motorbike.....what is wrong with plain English....like "for stealing a motorbike"?.....I thought he had left a "Poo Poos" (No.2) under the seat or something? Edited December 21, 2015 by dotpoom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpolar Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Hire bike for 300b sell it in phuket town for 10 000b 10 short time fly back home that's probably what happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colabamumbai Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Insured more than likely.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc46 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Isn't this what one would/could call karma ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Insured more than likely.. Very unlikely any loss insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelman868 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) Insured more than likely.. 99% of hire motorcycles are not insured. They should have the Government annual insurance which they get with the road tax but hay this is Phuket and normal rules go out the window. I see the PCX only cost 68,000 baht, so a bargain, I had to pay 71,000 in Udon Thani Edited December 21, 2015 by seedy language Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pakaty Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Defalcation is a strange way to describe a motorbike hire gone bad ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defalcation i read defecation at first That takes the pie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveller45 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 DEFALCATION is an outdated term that describes a special type of felony, usually found in accounting and decidedly white-collar. MISAPPROPRIATION would be a substitute. You will notice that this refers to amounts of money and is inappropriate for somebody making off with a rented bike. Here, we are talking about THEFT, quite ordinary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuk23 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Insured more than likely.. 99% of hire motorcycles are not insured. They should have the Government annual insurance which they get with the road tax but hay this is Phuket and normal rules go out the window. I see the PCX only cost 68,000 baht, so a bargain, I had to pay 71,000 in Udon Thani 68,000 for the bike plus you have to pay for licence and insurance when you by, so 71,000 is about wright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya28 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 30,000 Baht reward 100% this reward will never get paid, no matter what !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfalfa19 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Hats off, to the gentleman from the Ukraine... Turnabout is fair play. You beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Trust the Thais to come up with a word that doesn't do what they intend it should. Defalcation refers to the embezzlement of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya28 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Trust the Thais to come up with a word that doesn't do what they intend it should. Defalcation refers to the embezzlement of money, Embezzlement of money, Embezzlement of a motor-bike, what's the difference ? The alleged "rewarder" got Embezzled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Trust the Thais to come up with a word that doesn't do what they intend it should. Defalcation refers to the embezzlement of money, Embezzlement of money, Embezzlement of a motor-bike, what's the difference ? The alleged "rewarder" got Embezzled Why not just call it theft. He did not return bike on the due date, he has no title to the bike. It's theft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeya Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 30,000 baht for a Defalcation? Ill come and remove the bird for free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 “It is not an easy case at this point, because we don’t even know if he is still in Phuket.” so much for the hotel/room registration of guests required by immigration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 30,000 baht for a Defalcation? Ill come and remove the bird for free color me blind...i read that as defacation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springheeled jack Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 it sounds as if this fellows doing a bit of renting and selling I suppose its another way of staying in Thailand these Ukrainians are up to all kinds of mischief . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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