Pheu Thai hit for ‘sowing panic’

[rooster59]

Pheu Thai hit for ‘sowing panic’

BANGKOK: GOVERNMENT Spokesman Maj-General Sansern Kaewkamnerd yesterday lashed out at the Pheu Thai Party for trying to cause public panic and confusion and insisted that the government had no plan to scrap the Bt30 universal healthcare scheme.

Sansern said Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha did not intend to scrap the Bt30 scheme but would improve the system. He said Pheu Thai intentionally gave out false information to create public panic.

"We assure that this government never had an idea to cancel the scheme. We are improving it so that more low-income earners can receive the best healthcare possible,'' he said.

He said the government was trying to plug loopholes and solve the overlapping of budget management so that the scheme would not become a burden on the country's budget.

He said some former Pheu Thai MPs had misled the public into burning down the country in the past. "It is a tragedy that Thais cannot forget. Today this kind of arrogant behaviour is not possible because the National Council for Peace and Order and the government have taken charge to protect national security. They [Pheu Thai] are still not ashamed of themselves but are causing public confusion and concern by resorting to lies and tearing down our unity,'' he said.

"They should do some soul searching to see if they have Thai-ness left. If they cannot do good deeds, they should stop doing bad deeds as a New Year present for themselves,'' he said.

Pheu Thai caretaker secretary-general Phumtham Vechchayachai yesterday tweeted about reports of the cancellation of the scheme, saying if the government cancelled the Bt30 universal healthcare scheme, most people in the country would be in trouble. He said if the government did not have the ability to manage the scheme, it should allow others to run it.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Pheu-Thai-hit-for-sowing-panic-30275746.html

-- The Nation 2015-12-27

[trogers]

History has shown that the leaders of this party favor using the method 'Divide and Rule'.

When they were in power, they set up the red shirts to sow discords.

[Somtamnication]

I confew. Peu Thai is populist party. The military insists that the 30 baht medical scheme will continue. Populist junta?

[Thailand]

It's that pesky social media thing rearing it's ugly head again,

Off with it's head, again!

[Sarathi]

The Government are just trying to solve the budget problems -

Maybe they could tap into the 207 billion baht budget for the armed services.

[tbthailand]

so, in fact, the junta has floated the trial balloon to cancel or completely transform the 30B program since almost immediately after they took power...

Hmmmm, ... generals don't tell any fibs, now, that might create "confusion".

But in all the p.ssing in the wind by this particular general, what he claims all Thais must never forget is:

He said some former Pheu Thai MPs had misled the public into burning down the country in the past. "It is a tragedy that Thais cannot forget.

Let's ignore the hyperbole, and let's forget that the public which burned down the symbols of state power did so in response to TV images of soldiers killing fellow Thais in Bangkok...

But of course, the general has forgotten that the Oct 6th memorials were all cancelled under junta orders and I imagine that there won't be any May 19th memorials this year either...

When it comes to thing to not forget, maybe not forgetting all the killing done by the Thai Military should be the "tragedy that Thais cannot forget".

The dinosaurs have the power, but they still have pea-sized brains...

[waitforusalso]

History has shown that the leaders of this party favor using the method 'Divide and Rule'.

When they were in power, they set up the red shirts to sow discords.

You mean the same method as the army has been using ever since backing an uprising against the democratically elected government & then committing a coup to ensure themselves & their yellow supporters remain firmly in power at the expense of the poor.

[Eric Loh]

History has shown that the leaders of this party favor using the method 'Divide and Rule'.

When they were in power, they set up the red shirts to sow discords.

If there is an institution that thrive on Divide and Rule on the behest of the others, it got to be the military since1932. Rest pale in comparison to their continuous use of military might to impose their rule.

[phoenixdoglover]

Anybody see panic? Anywhere?

I thought not.

[Balance]

The budget can be put into the black by simply collecting the taxes that the wealthy do not pay. This is what happened to Greece - very few people with money were paying any taxes to support the what the government is mandated to do. In the U.S. if the government spends tax money to subsidize the rich, it is fine with the right wing SOB's, but if it goes to help people who can not help themselves or to feed hungry children then they cry socialism. Same same everywhere. Part of the answer in Thailand is to give autonomy to the provinces. Let them tax themselves and support their schools and small local projects and prosecute corruption.

[thesetat2013]

History has shown that the leaders of this party favor using the method 'Divide and Rule'.

When they were in power, they set up the red shirts to sow discords.

You mean the same method as the army has been using ever since backing an uprising against the democratically elected government & then committing a coup to ensure themselves & their yellow supporters remain firmly in power at the expense of the poor.

What a crock!!! You democratic supporters of the previous gov STILL fail to see that YL refused to release her position as ACTING PM when the timeframe was completed. Mind you also! You seek to forget that YL became ACTING PM at her own doing with the hopes that a quick election would bring her back to power and justify her own initial "paid for" election. Fortunately her and backfired when elections were prevented by the yellow shirts. Fortunately the Army took over and kicked her butt to the streets and fortunately it was done before any blood was seriously shed. It was all fortunate for Thailand and for the people. Unfortunately! The current powers that be did not deliver what was promised but at least the countries coffers are not completely depleted and their are no more rioters or threats of civil war. Albeit, everything is still messed up heheee. But you YL supporters need to wake up and see that YL was trying to do the same as her brother by holding on to power even though her time was past. I believe this is also happening now as well. But perhaps it is still better than before.

[ianf]

History has shown that the leaders of this party favor using the method 'Divide and Rule'.

When they were in power, they set up the red shirts to sow discords.

You mean the same method as the army has been using ever since backing an uprising against the democratically elected government & then committing a coup to ensure themselves & their yellow supporters remain firmly in power at the expense of the poor.

Democratically elected? On which planet do you live?

[JOC]

How can anyone sow panic in a country, where 99.3 % ( ) support the ruling junta??

[jesimps]

History has shown that the leaders of this party favor using the method 'Divide and Rule'.

When they were in power, they set up the red shirts to sow discords.

You mean the same method as the army has been using ever since backing an uprising against the democratically elected government & then committing a coup to ensure themselves & their yellow supporters remain firmly in power at the expense of the poor.

What a crock!!! You democratic supporters of the previous gov STILL fail to see that YL refused to release her position as ACTING PM when the timeframe was completed. Mind you also! You seek to forget that YL became ACTING PM at her own doing with the hopes that a quick election would bring her back to power and justify her own initial "paid for" election. Fortunately her and backfired when elections were prevented by the yellow shirts. Fortunately the Army took over and kicked her butt to the streets and fortunately it was done before any blood was seriously shed. It was all fortunate for Thailand and for the people. Unfortunately! The current powers that be did not deliver what was promised but at least the countries coffers are not completely depleted and their are no more rioters or threats of civil war. Albeit, everything is still messed up heheee. But you YL supporters need to wake up and see that YL was trying to do the same as her brother by holding on to power even though her time was past. I believe this is also happening now as well. But perhaps it is still better than before.

There are so many inaccuracies it isn't even worth replying to. Are you English John in disguise?

[waitforusalso]

History has shown that the leaders of this party favor using the method 'Divide and Rule'.

When they were in power, they set up the red shirts to sow discords.

You mean the same method as the army has been using ever since backing an uprising against the democratically elected government & then committing a coup to ensure themselves & their yellow supporters remain firmly in power at the expense of the poor.

Democratically elected? On which planet do you live?

The same planet as ANFREL (Asian Network for Free Elections);

"An Asian election monitoring group has hailed Thailand's nationwide election as final results were tallied for being generally peaceful, orderly and allowing the public to express their voice. But, the Asian Network for Free Elections also cited some flaws in the polls and warned the Thai military not to intervene in politics."

"ANFREL issued a statement Tuesday noting there were some flaws in the election, including cases of violence, intimidation and vote-buying that it urged authorities to handle appropriately. But it said there were no major incidents that would call into question the results.

http://www.voanews.com/content/asian-observer-group-commends-thai-election-cites-minor-flaws--125003034/141777.html

What planet do you live? Suthep/Prayuth fairyland planet it seems.

[phantomfiddler]

History has shown that the leaders of this party favor using the method 'Divide and Rule'.

When they were in power, they set up the red shirts to sow discords.

I believe the term is "Divide and conquer" but you are quite correct in their tactics

[Solomon]

History has shown that the leaders of this party favor using the method 'Divide and Rule'.

When they were in power, they set up the red shirts to sow discords.

History has shown that the leaders of this party favour using the method "win election and rule" whereas their opponents have always been in favour of the method "boycott elections, release the street mobs, close the airports and send out the tanks".

[Solomon]

History has shown that the leaders of this party favor using the method 'Divide and Rule'.

When they were in power, they set up the red shirts to sow discords.

You mean the same method as the army has been using ever since backing an uprising against the democratically elected government & then committing a coup to ensure themselves & their yellow supporters remain firmly in power at the expense of the poor.

Democratically elected? On which planet do you live?

Earth.

Democratically elected - 2000, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2011 and 2014 -------ALL RED

Coups - 2006, 2008 and 2014 -------ALL YELLOW

[Snig27]

History has shown that the leaders of this party favor using the method 'Divide and Rule'.

When they were in power, they set up the red shirts to sow discords.

You mean the same method as the army has been using ever since backing an uprising against the democratically elected government & then committing a coup to ensure themselves & their yellow supporters remain firmly in power at the expense of the poor.

Democratically elected? On which planet do you live?

Perhaps the one in which three different studies - including one linked to several times on this site from an Australian university which was peer reviewed - stated that the last two elections were largely fair and democratic.

If you have some solid evidence otherwise it might you good to submit your own research paper so we can balance the evidence. Looking forward to it.

[Snig27]

History has shown that the leaders of this party favor using the method 'Divide and Rule'.

When they were in power, they set up the red shirts to sow discords.

You mean the same method as the army has been using ever since backing an uprising against the democratically elected government & then committing a coup to ensure themselves & their yellow supporters remain firmly in power at the expense of the poor.

What a crock!!! You democratic supporters of the previous gov STILL fail to see that YL refused to release her position as ACTING PM when the timeframe was completed. Mind you also! You seek to forget that YL became ACTING PM at her own doing with the hopes that a quick election would bring her back to power and justify her own initial "paid for" election. Fortunately her and backfired when elections were prevented by the yellow shirts. Fortunately the Army took over and kicked her butt to the streets and fortunately it was done before any blood was seriously shed. It was all fortunate for Thailand and for the people. Unfortunately! The current powers that be did not deliver what was promised but at least the countries coffers are not completely depleted and their are no more rioters or threats of civil war. Albeit, everything is still messed up heheee. But you YL supporters need to wake up and see that YL was trying to do the same as her brother by holding on to power even though her time was past. I believe this is also happening now as well. But perhaps it is still better than before.

One assumes this post is self-parody?

[zaphod reborn]

Don't Panic!

Sorry, but I had to say it.

[oneday]

"...Today this kind of arrogant behaviour..."

Seems like the only "arrogant behavior" these days is coming from the NCPO. Pheu Thai didn't say what they said in a vacuum. The government almost certainly prompted that remark by something they announced. I guess the NCPO just isn't being clear enough when they announce things.

[Baerboxer]

It's that pesky social media thing rearing it's ugly head again,

Off with it's head, again!

No - it's someone possibly lying on social media to stir up trouble again.

PTP - do they have a record of lying, stirring up trouble, communicating by social media?

Of course, they like their leader, never ever do anything wrong, never ever.

[Baerboxer]

"...Today this kind of arrogant behaviour..."

Seems like the only "arrogant behavior" these days is coming from the NCPO. Pheu Thai didn't say what they said in a vacuum. The government almost certainly prompted that remark by something they announced. I guess the NCPO just isn't being clear enough when they announce things.

Or maybe PTP simply lied and made it up. As they have done on many occasions even when in power.

PTP hope people like you will say "the government almost certainly prompted" when there is nothing to suggest that other than the comments of proven liars.

Do you think the Junta would really tell PTP about anything? Or is it more likely PTP would make it up?

[Baerboxer]

History has shown that the leaders of this party favor using the method 'Divide and Rule'.

When they were in power, they set up the red shirts to sow discords.

You mean the same method as the army has been using ever since backing an uprising against the democratically elected government & then committing a coup to ensure themselves & their yellow supporters remain firmly in power at the expense of the poor.

Democratically elected? On which planet do you live?

Perhaps the one in which three different studies - including one linked to several times on this site from an Australian university which was peer reviewed - stated that the last two elections were largely fair and democratic.

If you have some solid evidence otherwise it might you good to submit your own research paper so we can balance the evidence. Looking forward to it.

You put far more trust in peer reviewed university reports and articles than I do.

Wouldn't have been written by that same Aussie Uni and lecturer who was on telly trying to portray the Shins as the "people's party, true socialists, honest and just" was it?

"Largely fair and democratic" - so depends on your interpretation then. Would need to understand their methodology but did the go to Chiang Mai and witness the intimidation of non Shin patronage candidates and party canvassers? Or to the villages where money was promised, only if the whole 100% block vote was delivered - so not voting as instructed would cost all your neighbors their "bonus" - no pressure then.

The same Australia the bans Junta members and their families from visiting, but is happy to send it's ministers here and do trade deals. And pay people smugglers to take the people back or somewhere else. Wonder if that hypocrisy extends to academic bias too?

[Solomon]

"...Today this kind of arrogant behaviour..."

Seems like the only "arrogant behavior" these days is coming from the NCPO. Pheu Thai didn't say what they said in a vacuum. The government almost certainly prompted that remark by something they announced. I guess the NCPO just isn't being clear enough when they announce things.

Or maybe PTP simply lied and made it up. As they have done on many occasions even when in power.

PTP hope people like you will say "the government almost certainly prompted" when there is nothing to suggest that other than the comments of proven liars.

Do you think the Junta would really tell PTP about anything? Or is it more likely PTP would make it up?

The medical "establishment" is opposed to the 30 baht scheme; they want it gone, always have.

The coup regime is acting on behalf of the "establishment", the coup regime is opposed to the "people".

The coup regime wants to continue the social order whereby the rich get everything at the expense of the poor.

The poor, if diagnosed with say cancer, should do the right thing by the nation and go off and quietly die without complaint (or expense to the establishment).

Why should the government spend money on taking care of the poor when they can instead use the money to prop up the antiquated social order?

Do you think, at all?

[DP25]

PTP has been continually lying about this subject for years now. After the first military coup, the military government abolished the 30 baht co-payment for using the universal government health care system, and made it totally free instead, as the Ministry of Public Health reported that it cost more money in administration fees than it brought in. So to increase efficiency, and make things easier for the poor, the 30 baht fee was abolished. PTP responded by claiming that the government health care system had been abolished, and then campaigned that they would 'bring back 30 baht health care' fee when they took over. So in 2012 they they started charging for health care again, instead of having it totally free.

The Ministry of Public Health DOES NOT WANT the 30 baht co-payment. The administration costs are too expensive and it makes things difficult and complicated for hospitals and for patients. PTP keeps spreading misinformation about this because '30 baht health care' is associated with Thaksin

[thelonius]

"...Today this kind of arrogant behaviour..."

Seems like the only "arrogant behavior" these days is coming from the NCPO. Pheu Thai didn't say what they said in a vacuum. The government almost certainly prompted that remark by something they announced. I guess the NCPO just isn't being clear enough when they announce things.

Or maybe PTP simply lied and made it up. As they have done on many occasions even when in power.

PTP hope people like you will say "the government almost certainly prompted" when there is nothing to suggest that other than the comments of proven liars.

Do you think the Junta would really tell PTP about anything? Or is it more likely PTP would make it up?

The Public Health Minister, Piyasakol Sakolsatayadorn told the media on Thursday that the 30 baht scheme budget was getting out of hand and that it was time that Thailand reconsidered whether it should continue. Understandably the PTP responded as stated above. Why do you find that hard to understand? Do you think the junta needs your support in these difficult times for them?

[Srikcir]

"They should do some soul searching to see if they have Thai-ness left."

This is a traditional use of nationalism to sustain fascism - If you are not patriotic, you are not a true citizen of the State and so an enemy of the State.

In a militant totalitarian state the government aims to control political, economic, social, intellectual and cultural lives of its citizens. In such endeavor, many fascist regimes have been most particularly characterized by their extreme nationalistic feelings to promote unity through a shared culture and history, for example the Nazi emphasis on the importance of being German and learning the heroic deeds of the Teutonic knights in the Middle Ages.¹

So its not surprising that this statement comes from an Army Major General government spokesman speaking for the Chief of the NCPO junta.

¹ "Fascism is nothing more than an extreme form of Nationalism," Liverpool John Moores University

[phoenixdoglover]

History has shown that the leaders of this party favor using the method 'Divide and Rule'.

When they were in power, they set up the red shirts to sow discords.

You mean the same method as the army has been using ever since backing an uprising against the democratically elected government & then committing a coup to ensure themselves & their yellow supporters remain firmly in power at the expense of the poor.

What a crock!!! You democratic supporters of the previous gov STILL fail to see that YL refused to release her position as ACTING PM when the timeframe was completed. Mind you also! You seek to forget that YL became ACTING PM at her own doing with the hopes that a quick election would bring her back to power and justify her own initial "paid for" election. Fortunately her and backfired when elections were prevented by the yellow shirts. Fortunately the Army took over and kicked her butt to the streets and fortunately it was done before any blood was seriously shed. It was all fortunate for Thailand and for the people. Unfortunately! The current powers that be did not deliver what was promised but at least the countries coffers are not completely depleted and their are no more rioters or threats of civil war. Albeit, everything is still messed up heheee. But you YL supporters need to wake up and see that YL was trying to do the same as her brother by holding on to power even though her time was past. I believe this is also happening now as well. But perhaps it is still better than before.

One assumes this post is self-parody?

More like self defeating I think. At first I thought he was arguing against the previous post. By the end, he all but admitted the opposing argument.