Hal65 Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 I plan on driving around eventually but right now I just want a good website where I can look at sales prices and also rental prices for condos in the same building. if anybody knows a good website I'd appreciate it, thanks. Also, is Thailand one of those countries where sellers overmark the list by 20%+, expecting a heated negotiation? (in the US, sales average a 3.5% discount to list price; of course this varies by listing there as well). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguyfromanotherforum Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Hipflat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear78 Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 http://www.pattaya-property.net/?p=list_property〈=&id_type=21&beds=&baths=&id_location=&id_for=2&formprice=1&page=1 http://pattayacondoguide.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirtless Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Just take a look mate , the world is outside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattayamick64 Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 try asiatradingservice.com extensive range of condos and great search engine to find exactly what your looking for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 When we bought here, the websites were great for getting a general idea of the location, layout, amenities, etc. But nothing beats going onsite. What we saw online, sometimes, was way off from reality! Here's a few sites I still use when I'm poking around: http://www.pattaya-property.net/ http://www.thaiproperty.com/ http://www.coastalrealestatepattaya.com/ Not sure if these are still active: http://www.fairproperties.com/ http://jomtien-property.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomyai Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Are you sure you want to buy.? Id investigate people who are trying to sell be4 you buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunks Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I plan on driving around eventually but right now I just want a good website where I can look at sales prices and also rental prices for condos in the same building. if anybody knows a good website I'd appreciate it, thanks. Also, is Thailand one of those countries where sellers overmark the list by 20%+, expecting a heated negotiation? (in the US, sales average a 3.5% discount to list price; of course this varies by listing there as well). I have some 1 bed units for sale in Serenity wongamat. Fully furnished, great area. Selling at cost price. I am in Pattaya today, if you want to view PM me. Here's a link to the full details: http://www.ddproperty.com/en/property/serenity-wongamat-new-1-bedroom-ff-units-reduced-3-994664 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bark Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 www.StupidFarangBuyMyCondo.Com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicowoodduck Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Must have checked your brain in at the airport? Why would anyone want to buy anything in Lieland????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 If you call Thailand your home, and don't want to rent, then a purchase is the way to go. Though rents here are very cheap. Financially, it doesn't always make sense. But it is your home. So it's not all about finances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Kubasa Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Your planning Hal, is ass backwards ! Did you forget location,location,location ? You MUST drive around first as you cannot believe most web site descriptions. Find a locale you like and THEN use the Net to plan further . Agents are another serious problem with monologs like used car salesmen. Ihave had experience wirh Bolton/Fair/Heights- Holdings and wouldn't put them at the top of my list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djlest Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 ive got 5 condos in pattaya - all still under construction Palm Wongamat x 2 Maldives x 1 Grand Carribean x 2 Nothing wrong with investing in property especially nice places you can stay in yourself if not renting out. Buy off plan for better returns...Granted now there is a bit of a recession due to the Russians currency depreciation. so plenty bargains...As far as prices go Patts is much cheaper than BKK and better quality builds as most are designed by and for European market. Will you get your 10% return per year? possibly but thats depends... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguyfromanotherforum Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Can you imagine buying a condo in Patterz and get a Sharky type as neighbour and all his little angels moaning and groaning every night? And you can't move.... What a sad existence would that be.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb17 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 ive got 5 condos in pattaya - all still under construction Palm Wongamat x 2 Maldives x 1 Grand Carribean x 2 Nothing wrong with investing in property especially nice places you can stay in yourself if not renting out. Buy off plan for better returns... Granted now there is a bit of a recession due to the Russians currency depreciation. so plenty bargains... As far as prices go Patts is much cheaper than BKK and better quality builds as most are designed by and for European market. Will you get your 10% return per year? possibly but thats depends... Yes , but the Maldives has been completely abandoned- I live next door. I hope it will be finished soon , but don't hold my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Must have checked your brain in at the airport? Why would anyone want to buy anything in Lieland????? because he can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) If you are new to Pattaya I would suggest that you rent first in an area or several areas that you think you might like to live in. My partner and I should have done more of that when we first moved to Pattaya. Once you have settled on an area, you can use the various websites that the posters have put up to get some idea of what is for sale and the prices. I would urge you to buy in foreign quota if possible--despite what some may tell you it is easier to sell a foreign quota condo than one in Thai/Company name. This was another mistake we made in our learning process. There should be foreign quota condos for sale in most projects, either new or re-sales. After a bad experience a couple years ago with a small, inexperienced developer who had never built a project before, we have vowed to always buy from a large, experienced, well-financed developer with a track record if we ever buy new or off plan again. I always now say take your time and do your research (something we didn't always do enough of) and nothing beats on-site observation, talking to residents, etc. of the projects you are considering. Good luck. Edited January 26, 2016 by Rimmer Fonts corrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza40 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) Overmarking by 20% would be an understatement in Thailand. The price is based on whether it's the Thai or falang component in a condo. No way will a Thai pay the falang price. Ookeverpricing for falangs is quite common. Whatever the seller thinks they can get away with. You also need to know what the condo management is doing. There may be a situation where an assessment will have to be paid by unitholders because the maintenance fund intended for major repairs has mysteriously evaporated. As other posters have suggested, if you see a condo you particularly like, rent there first so you get to know the problems. Things like rusty water, unreliable electricity, or lifts that are out of commission frequently are not immediately apparent. And the day inspection doesn't include the karaoke a few hundred yards away that starts blasting at 7 pm. Under police protection. Condos here are a bit like marriage - easy to get into, but very difficult to extricate oneself from. You have been warned. Edited January 26, 2016 by bazza40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 My advice,after 23 years,don't listen to half the rubbish posted on here, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Yes but which half ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCruncher Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 ive got 5 condos in pattaya - all still under construction Palm Wongamat x 2 Maldives x 1 Grand Carribean x 2 Nothing wrong with investing in property especially nice places you can stay in yourself if not renting out. Buy off plan for better returns... Granted now there is a bit of a recession due to the Russians currency depreciation. so plenty bargains... As far as prices go Patts is much cheaper than BKK and better quality builds as most are designed by and for European market. Will you get your 10% return per year? possibly but thats depends... Pattaya cheaper than Bangkok? Well if you say so, you must be the expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcoml Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Move to Pattaya and rent for a while. Now spend a lot of time at bars and you will have many farang approach you in the bar absolutely desperate to get out of their property. Many people come here with dreams and rose colour glasses. Others having never been laid in their home country become addicted to the sex on tap. Anyway they mostly end up broke and desperately need to sell their property so they can continue living the dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal65 Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) Move to Pattaya and rent for a while. Now spend a lot of time at bars and you will have many farang approach you in the bar absolutely desperate to get out of their property. Many people come here with dreams and rose colour glasses. Others having never been laid in their home country become addicted to the sex on tap. Anyway they mostly end up broke and desperately need to sell their property so they can continue living the dream. As someone who worked for a real estate investment company in the US we would call this a high-distress market. You can make good money when you buy (from the equity cushion of buying low). This also increases the rent yield and buffers against a flat market. I've been here for 6 months BTW. Edited January 26, 2016 by Hal65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roquefort Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I have a condo for sale in The Vision on Pratumnak Hill. Top of the range project by Matrix, one of the leading developers in Pattaya. Newly completed,ready to move in - PM me if you'd like to view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
properperson Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I plan on driving around eventually but right now I just want a good website where I can look at sales prices and also rental prices for condos in the same building. if anybody knows a good website I'd appreciate it, thanks. Also, is Thailand one of those countries where sellers overmark the list by 20%+, expecting a heated negotiation? (in the US, sales average a 3.5% discount to list price; of course this varies by listing there as well). I have some 1 bed units for sale in Serenity wongamat. Fully furnished, great area. Selling at cost price. I am in Pattaya today, if you want to view PM me. Here's a link to the full details: http://www.ddproperty.com/en/property/serenity-wongamat-new-1-bedroom-ff-units-reduced-3-994664 Blimey - 2m Baht for a 32 square meter box in a development smack opposite another one and with another one right behind it.... Is that what they call "living the dream" ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomyai Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 ive got 5 condos in pattaya - all still under construction Palm Wongamat x 2 Maldives x 1 Grand Carribean x 2 Nothing wrong with investing in property especially nice places you can stay in yourself if not renting out. Buy off plan for better returns... Granted now there is a bit of a recession due to the Russians currency depreciation. so plenty bargains... As far as prices go Patts is much cheaper than BKK and better quality builds as most are designed by and for European market. Will you get your 10% return per year? possibly but thats depends... AS investment the numbers dont pencil out.............................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCruncher Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I have a condo for sale in The Vision on Pratumnak Hill. Top of the range project by Matrix, one of the leading developers in Pattaya. Newly completed,ready to move in - PM me if you'd like to view. Is that the building where they had to fill the pool with concrete because the building was sliding into it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Looks like you are getting some pitches of condos for sale. I would say again to take your time--the deals will still be there. One mistake my partner and I made was to under-estimate the traffic congestion and how nerve-racking the traffic can be--especially if you drive a car. If you are only here for the winter months then you might be able to cope at any location but if you are here year round it really starts to wear on you over time if, for example, you are driving from south part of Jomtien Beach to central Pattaya four or five times a week. We finally ended up moving closer to where we were spending a lot of time because we disliked being stuck in traffic so much. If you have been here 6 months I'm sure you have encountered the large tunnel project on Sukumvit that causes quite a bit of traffic congestion as well as intersection closings. But, you may not be aware that it is only the first of 3 planned tunnels and Pattaya will be looking at this same tunnel congestion, or worse, for probably at least the next 10 years. If you don't plan to drive at all, I'd look for a condo on the baht bus line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightRider70 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I plan on driving around eventually but right now I just want a good website where I can look at sales prices and also rental prices for condos in the same building. if anybody knows a good website I'd appreciate it, thanks. Also, is Thailand one of those countries where sellers overmark the list by 20%+, expecting a heated negotiation? (in the US, sales average a 3.5% discount to list price; of course this varies by listing there as well). I have some 1 bed units for sale in Serenity wongamat. Fully furnished, great area. Selling at cost price. I am in Pattaya today, if you want to view PM me. Here's a link to the full details: http://www.ddproperty.com/en/property/serenity-wongamat-new-1-bedroom-ff-units-reduced-3-994664 Blimey - 2m Baht for a 32 square meter box in a development smack opposite another one and with another one right behind it.... Is that what they call "living the dream" ?? 2m for Whites but "only" 1.5m for Thais. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) It is a buyers market and I feel certain you can haggle down prices. This is harder with new build, but I know many people trying to sell condos and they have been on the market for many months. Many just stick a notice on the communal notice board and sit back. There is a double tier pricing whereby they try to get a recent arrival to pay more than he needs to... try the second-hand market and avoid the pretty girls selling in the shopping malls. Pick your area, Wong Amat (nice beaches but a pain to get to), Jomtiem or Pattaya central (traffic). Edited January 26, 2016 by jacko45k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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