snoop1130 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Survey: Corruption in Thailand lowest in 6 yearsNNT NewsBANGKOK, 2 February 2016 (NNT) – The University of the Thai Chamber of Commerce has found that corruption in Thailand in 2016 is lowest in six years and the improved situation helped return 100 billion baht back to the system.Rector of the University of the Thai Chamber of Commerce Saowanee Thairungrote on Tuesday announced the results of the survey on the Thai corruption situation in December 2015. The respondents’ gave 55 from 100 scores to Thailand for corruption. The scores suggested that the current Thai corruption situation improved the most in six years, said the rector.Most of the samples said they believed that the severity of the corruption problem in 2016 would reduce due to the government’s fight against corruption.The samples who had done business with the government said in 2015 they paid bribes totaling 60 – 170 billion baht or 6% - 15% of their budget in order to obtain contracts from the government. The total value of bribes in 2015 was lower than 2014 when they paid around 200 – 250 billion baht to government officials.Source: http://thainews.prd.go.th/website_en/news/news_detail/WNPOL5902020010003 -- NNT 2016-02-02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockman Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 This is just for public consumption. The rest of the world does not agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I thought the ostrich had its head in the sand. But apparently it is up where the sun don't shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesetat2013 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Heheee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Amazing the business people they surveyed reported below. That is, yes we paid bribes to govt officials but a little less in 2015. Wonder if those business people are ready to confess to the justice system their crime and identify the officials they paid the bribes to? Probably not. The samples who had done business with the government said in 2015 they paid bribes totaling 60 – 170 billion baht or 6% - 15% of their budget in order to obtain contracts from the government. The total value of bribes in 2015 was lower than 2014 when they paid around 200 – 250 billion baht to government officials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Amazing the business people they surveyed reported below. That is, yes we paid bribes to govt officials but a little less in 2015. Wonder if those business people are ready to confess to the justice system their crime and identify the officials they paid the bribes to? Probably not. The samples who had done business with the government said in 2015 they paid bribes totaling 60 – 170 billion baht or 6% - 15% of their budget in order to obtain contracts from the government. The total value of bribes in 2015 was lower than 2014 when they paid around 200 – 250 billion baht to government officials. Of course not.. they are as guilty as they got contracts for bribing and made all the money back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterwhisper Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) Given the fact that the source is the National News Bureau of Thailand - a government-run and -supervised agency - we surely believe every single word. We are also most jubilant in learning that in 2015 companies had to pay "only" 60 to 120 BILLION Baht ("only" approximately 1.7 to 3.4 BILLION US$) in bribes to corrupt government officials in order to land contracts. That is a wonderful improvement indeed! However, what I am somehow missing is how many corrupt government officials have actually been jailed in 2015 as compared to previous years. Edited February 2, 2016 by Misterwhisper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasset Tak Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I chose to see it from a brighter perspective than most... The corruption is a big problem but it's getting better and better. During Thaksin the level of corruption rose to over over 30% and according to my Thai friends and associates (some of them so high up in the Thai hierarchy that they even have direct access to dr. Thaksin, Abhisit and/or Prayut) it got even worse during the reign of his sister so if it was "ONLY" 6-15% last year then it's actually a quite good improvement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunna Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) Given the fact that the source is the National News Bureau of Thailand - a government-run and -supervised agency - we surely believe every single word. We are also most jubilant in learning that in 2015 companies had to pay "only" 60 to 120 BILLION Baht ("only" approximately 1.7 to 3.4 BILLION US$) in bribes to corrupt government officials in order to land contracts. That is a wonderful improvement indeed! However, what I am somehow missing is how many corrupt government officials have actually been jailed in 2015 as compared to previous years. The survey was conducted by The University of the Thai Chamber of Commerce - Private nonprofit higher education institution located in Bangkok, Thailand. The university's origin dates back to 1940, with the foundation of the College of Commerce in Bangkok. Edited February 2, 2016 by Gunna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Thailand is as corrupt as it was in years gone by. Transparency International gave Thailand a bad rating last week for being a badly corrupted country. And as for the government fighting corruption, I don't think so because they still have not organized any committees yet to decide what to do(if anything). Its business as usual with all the piggies with their noses in the money bucket! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaltsc Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) "The University of the Thai Chamber of Commerce has found that corruption in Thailand in 2016 is lowest in six years..." The highest incidents of corruption were found in the publishing of false survey results which made the government look as though it was reducing corruption. . Edited February 2, 2016 by jaltsc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lungbing Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 It's not corruption. The money from corruption paid to the amulet-selling middleman is handed back. It is then re-given as a donation. And a donation is not corruption! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapout Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 The army should have the means and could offer incentatives to the private sector to name officials, amount paid, how, when, etc and then give everyone a chance to return what was stolen. Ok maybe you make a deal to not bring criminal charges but they pay a substantial penality above and beyond what they stole and returned. Those who have laundered the money will lose as they have to pay to get it back. The government adds to the money avaliable to stimulate the local economy, interstructure, employment, etc and everyone starts with a clean slate and no one has lost everything they own and served several years in jail. It could be done where no one loses massive face, more like put the cookie back johnny, (your caught) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 The army should have the means and could offer incentatives to the private sector to name officials, amount paid, how, when, etc and then give everyone a chance to return what was stolen. Ok maybe you make a deal to not bring criminal charges but they pay a substantial penality above and beyond what they stole and returned. Those who have laundered the money will lose as they have to pay to get it back. The government adds to the money avaliable to stimulate the local economy, interstructure, employment, etc and everyone starts with a clean slate and no one has lost everything they own and served several years in jail. It could be done where no one loses massive face, more like put the cookie back johnny, (your caught) Thing is the people bribing the government officials for lucrative contracts of course dont want to tell.. they are benefiting more then the amount they have paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) How much did they have to pay for the figure to be fudged or was it the threat of reporting negative news? Probably just corruption amplitude adjustment behind closed doors. Edited February 2, 2016 by Reigntax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waitforusalso Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Chamber of Commerce...undoubtedly an institution of virtue and righteousness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 And of course the military who are more than likely, the most corrupt, investigate themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thequietman Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Being happy that their corrupt country isn't as corrupt this year as it was last time............ and seeing it as something to boast about. never a dull moment here in LOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdoglover Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 What if the volume of contracts was down in 2015. It was widely reported last year that government spending was significantly delayed, and this was identified as a factor in low GDP growth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praematura Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 LOL. Yea reversing democracy results in less corruption. This should be obvious because less transparency and oversight would clearly result in less corruption... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadGeordie Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nong38 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Well thats good news but as Spike Milligan used to say "theres a lot of it about!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 clearly ... honest appraisals of the situation are not permitted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English patriot Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Good to see such an Improvement well done general Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coulson Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Gave up reading at *survey* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechook Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I chose to see it from a brighter perspective than most... The corruption is a big problem but it's getting better and better. During Thaksin the level of corruption rose to over over 30% and according to my Thai friends and associates (some of them so high up in the Thai hierarchy that they even have direct access to dr. Thaksin, Abhisit and/or Prayut) it got even worse during the reign of his sister so if it was "ONLY" 6-15% last year then it's actually a quite good improvement!So Thaksin was the founder of corruption? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLobster Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Survey: Corruption in Thailand lowest in 6 years Control of the dissenters has improved as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Corruption situation improves to best record in six yearsBANGKOK: -- Corruption situation in Thailand in 2015 has improved with the amount of under-the-table payments being slashed from 25 percent of the annual budget or 250 billion baht to 10 percent or 100-150 billion baht, according to the Economic and Business Forecast Centre of the University of Thai Chamber of Commerce.Mr Thanawat Pholwichai, director of the centre, said Tuesday that the Corruption Situation Index which was based on the opinion survey of 2,400 samples showed a score of 55 for corruption situation last year compared to a score of 49 in 2014, constituting the best record in six years.Regarding the efficiency of the National Anti-Corruption Commission in dealing with corruption, 55 percent of the respondents praised the graft-busting agency of being efficient, 28 percent said the agency was on par while 9 percent said the agency is useless.Most respondents want the government to strictly enforce the law and to find decisive actions against the corrupt. Others want the public to have a say in the examination of alleged corrupt practices.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/content/149192 -- Thai PBS 2016-02-03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 How much did they get to say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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