Teacher Licensing, Culture Testing, TCT

[AJmatt]

I am the EP Coordinator at the largest school in the Rayong province. Our school obtained 2 new WPs and 3 renewals today for teachers who have in no way complied with the alleged TCT teacher licensing requirements. Rayong immigration specifically stated that a teacher's license, temporary or otherwise, is not a requirement for obtaining a new WP/extension to stay, or a renewal, for a foreign teacher.

Thats funny because my E.P boss just got off the phone with Mabtaput Immigration and they stated they have been asking since November for Teacher's License!!

But this is Thailand after all!!

Link to an English translation of the new requirements for a visa extension as from Nov 25th 2008

http://www.norcham.com/attach_file/newsfile_215_200.pdf

Thanks for the Link great stuff!

2.6 In the case of a teacher, professor, or expert in a state educational institution: Each permission shall be granted for no more than one year. 1. Application form 2. Copy of applicant’s passport 3. Copy of work permit 4. Letter of confirmation and request for a temporary stay issued by the educational institution, specifying the applicant’s title, monthly salary rate, and term of employment 5. Copy of a teaching license or a certificate of license issued by the Teacher’s Council of Thailand or a copy of a letter of waiver issued by the Teacher’s Council of Thailand or a copy of an acknowledgment of waiver request issued by the Teacher’s Council of Thailand (except for teachers, instructors, or experts of higher education)

2.7 In the case of a teacher, professor, or expert in a private educational institution: Each permission shall be granted for no more than one year. - For education in school system such as general education, English program schools, vocational schools that follow the Ministry of Education’s curriculum, and international schools: 1. Application form 2. Copy of applicant’s passport 3. Copy of work permit 4. Copy of evidence of permission to establish said educational institution issued by the relevant government agency 5. Letter of confirmation and request for a temporary stay issued by the educational institution, specifying the applicant’s title, monthly salary rate, and term of employment, together with a copy of a letter of teacher appointment in the format required by the Private Education Commission 6. Copy of a teaching license or a copy of a certificate of license issued by the Teacher’s Council of Thailand or a copy of a letter of waiver issued by the Teacher’s Council of Thailand or a copy of an acknowledgment of waiver request issued by the Teacher’s Council of Thailand

- For education of non-school system 1. Application form 2. Copy of applicant’s passport 3. Copy of work permit 4. Copy of evidence of permission to establish said educational institution issued by the relevant government agency 5. Letter of confirmation and request for a temporary stay issued by the educational institution, specifying the applicant’s title, monthly salary rate, and term of employment 6. Copy of a letter of teacher appointment in the format required by the Private Education Commission - For institutes of higher education 1. Application form 2. Copy of applicant’s passport 3. Copy of work permit 4. Copy of evidence that permission has been granted to establish said educational institution issued by the relevant government agency 5. Letter of confirmation and request for a temporary stay issued by the dean of the educational institution specifying the applicant’s title, monthly salary rate, and term of employment

2.8 In the case of enrollment in a state educational institution: Each permission shall be granted for a period of study certified by the educational institution, which shall not exceed one year. 1. Application form 2. Copy of applicant’s passport 3. Letter of confirmation and request for a temporary stay, issued by the educational institution, which shows detailed information about the applicant’s years of education, level of curriculum, and educational achievement

2.9 In the case of enrollment in a private educational institution: Each permission shall be granted for a period certified by the educational institution, which shall not exceed one year. 1. Application form 2. Copy of applicant’s passport 3. Copy of evidence of permission to establish the educational institution issued by the relevant government agency 4. Letter of confirmation and request for a temporary stay, issued by the educational institution, which shows detailed information about the applicant’s years of education, level of curriculum, and educational achievement 5. Confirmation letter issued by a government agency at the departmental level or by the Provincial Governor in charge of that particular institution (except in the case of enrollment in an international school or in the case of higher education)

[AJmatt]

http://www.unescobkk.org/fileadmin/user_up...rs/Thailand.pdf

Some interesting contact details for the Teacher Education Authority and just general information that some folk might find interesting!!

Edited March 5, 2009 by AJmatt

[AJmatt]

http://www.onec.go.th/english_ver/mayure/index_im.htm

Interesting reading

[AJmatt]

http://school.obec.go.th/kbpeper/New/b07%5B1%5D.pdf

[Ijustwannateach]

And, as we've frequently advised on this thread, the TCT stuff is basically BS, and according to more recent news sources seems to be on its way out.

I don't mind having these links placed in this thread, but no multiple reposts of them for the purpose of quoting or requoting lengthy sections. Quote what you like and refer back to the original link.

[skybluestu]

And, as we've frequently advised on this thread, the TCT stuff is basically BS, and according to more recent news sources seems to be on its way out.

I don't mind having these links placed in this thread, but no multiple reposts of them for the purpose of quoting or requoting lengthy sections. Quote what you like and refer back to the original link.

But for now it's not BS as it seems that nearly all immigration offices have started to refuse visa extensions if you don't have a TL. I know of people all over Thailand that have been refused extensions in the last few weeks because they did not have a TL. Some are now trying to get this TL but many are leaving Thailand. How long before the TCT realise their requirements will result in a mass exodus of perfectly capable native English speaking teachers who have had enough of their nonsense?

[AJmatt]

And, as we've frequently advised on this thread, the TCT stuff is basically BS, and according to more recent news sources seems to be on its way out.

I don't mind having these links placed in this thread, but no multiple reposts of them for the purpose of quoting or requoting lengthy sections. Quote what you like and refer back to the original link.

But for now it's not BS as it seems that nearly all immigration offices have started to refuse visa extensions if you don't have a TL. I know of people all over Thailand that have been refused extensions in the last few weeks because they did not have a TL. Some are now trying to get this TL but many are leaving Thailand. How long before the TCT realise their requirements will result in a mass exodus of perfectly capable native English speaking teachers who have had enough of their nonsense?

Your right it’s not BS and I don’t understand why some people on this forum seem to think it is.

Teacher’s licenses are being implemented for Thais and foreigners. It has been something on the books for many years now, and is now coming to a critical point for a lot of foreigners as they are refusing extensions of visas without the temporary or actual teacher’s license.

It is a policy designed to improve teaching quality in this country. People are expected to study for 5 years instead of only 4. Four years of study in your chosen field then one year studying education.

What is wrong with implementing a policy which aims to improve the standard of education delivered in State schools?

Why do so many people have a problem with it?

I am a soon to be father and I dam well would prefer my child to study with someone who has a degree in the field they are teaching, and some kind of knowledge of education.

How the person gains this knowledge, through a diploma in education, or a Masters is their personal choice. But when push comes to shove people should have the knowledge and be qualified.

It’s about time people stopped being so critical and finally started to contribute to the future of this nation we have chosen to live in…

[Loaded]

Has anyone personal experience of being refused an extension this year because they lack a TL or TCT waiver?

It may be happening but I've only read anecdotal evidence on here of people being refused or people stating that they received their extension because they have a TL. Very few farangs actually know/understand/are told what happens during this process. There are other Thailand TEFL websites and I haven't read anything on any of them yet of personal experiences of extension refusals. The links are good but last year, and the year before, similar links existed!

[AJmatt]

Has anyone personal experience of being refused an extension this year because they lack a TL or TCT waiver?

It may be happening but I've only read anecdotal evidence on here of people being refused or people stating that they received their extension because they have a TL. Very few farangs actually know/understand/are told what happens during this process. There are other Thailand TEFL websites and I haven't read anything on any of them yet of personal experiences of extension refusals. The links are good but last year, and the year before, similar links existed!

In the school I work in one teacher extended his visa in Nan immigration with a teacher’s license just 2 weeks ago. Nine teachers are going to extend within the next two weeks and we have been specifically told to bring teacher’s license or temporary or they will be refused an extension. This is 100% accurate information.

[zaphodbeeblebrox]

In the school I work in one teacher extended his visa in Nan immigration with a teacher's license just 2 weeks ago. Nine teachers are going to extend within the next two weeks and we have been specifically told to bring teacher's license or temporary or they will be refused an extension. This is 100% accurate information.

AJmatt: you don't extend your visa, but rather you get an extension to stay in the Kingdom based upon the continuation of your employment. Please tell us how many of your teachers have actually been issued teacher licenses (the new orange ones) by the TCT, and how many have used waivers and lettters of partial compliance to get their WP/extensions of stay granted.

In the last 4 months, my school has renewed 9 work permits, and obtained 5 new work permits for English teachers. None of these teachers has a B.Ed. or higher, none of them has taken the culture course, none of them has taken the TCT test battery or post-graduate education course. Not once has there been any mention of a teacher's license at immigration or labor as any kind of requirement for teachers getting a WP issued or an extension of stay granted. Our school will be renewing 5 more work permits at the end of this month.

The exact status of the licensing requirement will hopefully be known by the end of April when the new MOE regulations are published. It should be noted that the teacher licensing regulations promulgated by the TCT were to go into effect on May 1, 2009. The timing of the new MOE regulations appears to be timed so as to prevent the TCT licensing requirement from going into effect. The PAD-led government and the MOE is well-aware of the near impossibility of obtaining teacher's licenses under the new regulations.

Unless your provincial government offices or your school is requiring licensing before May 1, it does not appear that attempting to comply with the old regulations would be a wise investment of time, money and effort. As they say, "up to you".

[Mario2008]

Like it or not, but for teachers at government schools the teachers license is a requirement as of 25 November 2008, Royal Thai Police Order 305/2551.

One of the requirements for an extension of stay is:

5. Copy of a teaching license or a certificate of license issued by the Teacher’s Council of Thailand or a copy of a letter of waiver issued by the Teacher’s Council of Thailand or a copy of an acknowledgment of waiver request issued by the Teacher’s Council of Thailand (except for teachers, instructors, or experts of higher education)

If you don't have a teachers license, you must have a waiver from the theachers council, that is immmigration's policy for an extension. For the WP it is indeed not required.

[AJmatt]

In the school I work in one teacher extended his visa in Nan immigration with a teacher's license just 2 weeks ago. Nine teachers are going to extend within the next two weeks and we have been specifically told to bring teacher's license or temporary or they will be refused an extension. This is 100% accurate information.

AJmatt: you don't extend your visa, but rather you get an extension to stay in the Kingdom based upon the continuation of your employment. Please tell us how many of your teachers have actually been issued teacher licenses (the new orange ones) by the TCT, and how many have used waivers and lettters of partial compliance to get their WP/extensions of stay granted.

In the last 4 months, my school has renewed 9 work permits, and obtained 5 new work permits for English teachers. None of these teachers has a B.Ed. or higher, none of them has taken the culture course, none of them has taken the TCT test battery or post-graduate education course. Not once has there been any mention of a teacher's license at immigration or labor as any kind of requirement for teachers getting a WP issued or an extension of stay granted. Our school will be renewing 5 more work permits at the end of this month.

The exact status of the licensing requirement will hopefully be known by the end of April when the new MOE regulations are published. It should be noted that the teacher licensing regulations promulgated by the TCT were to go into effect on May 1, 2009. The timing of the new MOE regulations appears to be timed so as to prevent the TCT licensing requirement from going into effect. The PAD-led government and the MOE is well-aware of the near impossibility of obtaining teacher's licenses under the new regulations.

Unless your provincial government offices or your school is requiring licensing before May 1, it does not appear that attempting to comply with the old regulations would be a wise investment of time, money and effort. As they say, "up to you".

“Extend” and “Extension”

Root words

Prefix and suffix

We are both talking about the same thing it is unnecessary to be pedantic if you really want to be precise we are extending our visa on the basis of employment at a school. We are still technically attached to our original non b visa that lasted 3 months.

You don’t need to follow the regulations regarding teacher’s license to get a work permit

You do need to follow it to get an extension of visa…….

As for the number of teachers with a teacher’s license it’s one out of 12, and yes that’s the orange one from the TCT. As for the rest of us we are awaiting Bangkok to issue the temporary paper or letter to say we have applied for a temporary license, should be ready in the next week.

Still I find it strange that you continue to say that Mataput Immigration doesn’t ask for anything to do with teacher’s license, when on the phone they say they have been asking since November

Edited March 6, 2009 by AJmatt

[Ijustwannateach]

Ah, well, the new government will be making their own tests and rules before long, and all of this will be moot. Won't that be great?!

[skybluestu]

And, as we've frequently advised on this thread, the TCT stuff is basically BS, and according to more recent news sources seems to be on its way out.

I don't mind having these links placed in this thread, but no multiple reposts of them for the purpose of quoting or requoting lengthy sections. Quote what you like and refer back to the original link.

But for now it's not BS as it seems that nearly all immigration offices have started to refuse visa extensions if you don't have a TL. I know of people all over Thailand that have been refused extensions in the last few weeks because they did not have a TL. Some are now trying to get this TL but many are leaving Thailand. How long before the TCT realise their requirements will result in a mass exodus of perfectly capable native English speaking teachers who have had enough of their nonsense?

Your right it's not BS and I don't understand why some people on this forum seem to think it is.

Teacher's licenses are being implemented for Thais and foreigners. It has been something on the books for many years now, and is now coming to a critical point for a lot of foreigners as they are refusing extensions of visas without the temporary or actual teacher's license.

It is a policy designed to improve teaching quality in this country. People are expected to study for 5 years instead of only 4. Four years of study in your chosen field then one year studying education.

What is wrong with implementing a policy which aims to improve the standard of education delivered in State schools?

Why do so many people have a problem with it?

I am a soon to be father and I dam well would prefer my child to study with someone who has a degree in the field they are teaching, and some kind of knowledge of education.

How the person gains this knowledge, through a diploma in education, or a Masters is their personal choice. But when push comes to shove people should have the knowledge and be qualified.

It's about time people stopped being so critical and finally started to contribute to the future of this nation we have chosen to live in…

Or what could happen is that many teachers who are native English speakers will leave Thailand and will therefore leave many schools with only a Thai or, if their lucky, a Filipino teaching English. I can understand them wanting the Thai teachers to be fully qualified in the subject they are teaching, that is normal, and in an ideal world the foreign teachers would be too, but this isn't an ideal world and they are making a huge mistake. The average Thai's level of English ranges from poor to non-existent and that will only change if they are taught from Kindergarten through to Matayom and University level by native English speakers. Of course not every native English speaker is an expert on the English language but Thailand doesn't pay wages that will attract nowhere near enough fully qualified teachers. I teach conversational English to 8-13 year olds and in the 1 year I have been at my current school the parents and Director said the students English has improved a lot and they are very happy with my relationship with the students and classroom management. I don't have, or need in order to do my job, the educational requirements that the TCT now wants and don't intend to spend shit loads of time and money in order to get them either, so my school will possibly lose a Teacher they would love to keep just because of a money making scheme. That's basically what all this boils down to, it's just another way for a lot of people to make a lot of money!

I personally know of 3 Filipino, 1 Canadian and just today 1 Japanese teacher who have been refused a visa extension because they didn't have a TL, my boss said he'll try to sort something out (paying someone $$?) before I have to go to immigration in July but if he doesn't then it will be pastures new for me too and there are thousands of perfectly capable teachers just like me who will do the same. They will ammend the requirements soon but before they do they will have forced out a lot of language teachers who are improving this country's students language ability. They are very foolish!

Edited March 6, 2009 by skybluestu

[zaphodbeeblebrox]

As for the number of teachers with a teacher’s license it’s one out of 12, and yes that’s the orange one from the TCT. As for the rest of us we are awaiting Bangkok to issue the temporary paper or letter to say we have applied for a temporary license, should be ready in the next week.

As I expected, only 1. The number of actual licenses being issued by the TCT is miniscule.

The licensing regulation was created for 2 reasons: 1) as retaliation for a UK immigration law requiring SEA immigrants to pass a culture/language test; and, 2) to enrich a few bureaucrats and a handful of language schools (1 from the U.S.) by requiring foreign teachers to pay for overpriced culture and education courses.

BTW - Why should any immigration office follow the requirements buried in that order from the PR spokesman for immigration when the TCT's own regulations, made pursuant to a law passed by the Parliament, don't take effect until May 1, 2009? Could it be that someone was financially enriched by inserting that additional requirement into the order? The urgency of the implementation of the requirement suggests a last gasp push by the language centers to squeeze that last bit of money out of the scam, before the MOE shuts it all down.

Now, the answer we all want: Why are you being a shill for this obvious scam?

Still I find it strange that you continue to say that Mataput Immigration doesn’t ask for anything to do with teacher’s license, when on the phone they say they have been asking since November

Don't you think the person in charge of getting extensions from immigration at the largest school in the Rayong province would be a more reliable source than a cold call to the immigration office made from the boondocks of Thailand? Edited March 6, 2009 by zaphodbeeblebrox

[Ijustwannateach]

Dear Skybluestu,

Exactly- that's exactly the problem. They don't realise (or don't care) about the negative long-range effects of stupid short-term decisions and regulations, partly because they've always been able to get away with it. But times are changing (tourism? What tourism?) and as they attempt to make the requirements for teachers here even more strict than in Japan (I'm not making this up!) they may discover that their real labour pool is smaller than they think.

Ah, well, they do it to themselves.

As I often say- don't come to Thailand to teach.

[AJmatt]

As for the number of teachers with a teacher’s license it’s one out of 12, and yes that’s the orange one from the TCT. As for the rest of us we are awaiting Bangkok to issue the temporary paper or letter to say we have applied for a temporary license, should be ready in the next week.

As I expected, only 1. The number of actual licenses being issued by the TCT is miniscule.

The licensing regulation was created for 2 reasons: 1) as retaliation for a UK immigration law requiring SEA immigrants to pass a culture/language test; and, 2) to enrich a few bureaucrats and a handful of language schools (1 from the U.S.) by requiring foreign teachers to pay for overpriced culture and education courses.

BTW - Why should any immigration office follow the requirements buried in that order from the PR spokesman for immigration when the TCT's own regulations, made pursuant to a law passed by the Parliament, don't take effect until May 1, 2009? Could it be that someone was financially enriched by inserting that additional requirement into the order? The urgency of the implementation of the requirement suggests a last gasp push by the language centers to squeeze that last bit of money out of the scam, before the MOE shuts it all down.

Now, the answer we all want: Why are you being a shill for this obvious scam?

Still I find it strange that you continue to say that Mataput Immigration doesn’t ask for anything to do with teacher’s license, when on the phone they say they have been asking since November

Don't you think the person in charge of getting extensions from immigration at the largest school in the Rayong province would be a more reliable source than a cold call to the immigration office made from the boondocks of Thailand?

Obvious scam!

That’s really funny how people think getting a degree in education is a scam.

Maybe the diploma of education is a scam, but do bear in mind that it already existed for many many many years in Thai for Thai people to become a teacher. The fact that it is being offered in English some might say is a scam, some might say it is so people can obtain a teacher’s license.

However we look at it most of you are just speculating, we should be dealing with the facts, and the fact is currently many immigration offices are asking for teacher’s license.

I thought the idea of a forum was to inform each other of changes in laws and regulations, and upon informing fellow teachers of the challenges being faced, all which occurs is a barrage of abuse and suspicion as to why I am talking about teacher’s licenses and courses.

The rules may very well change and the whole teaching profession and teacher’s license malarkey maybe thrown out of the window but until that happens, the idea of my original post was to inform people that many immigration offices are asking for teacher’s license as a requirement to extend visa.

Edited March 7, 2009 by AJmatt

[Mario2008]

I think you should destinguish between a teachers license and a degree in education. The problem with the teachers license is that it is only recognised in Thailand, where a real degree in education would be recognised in most countries.

You are right abot the purpose of this forum and I found it usefull information. We have to go by the official requirements and if some offices ignore these, great. But the practise is that not every office ignore the requirement of a teacher license and one should be aware of this.

[AJmatt]

I think you should destinguish between a teachers license and a degree in education. The problem with the teachers license is that it is only recognised in Thailand, where a real degree in education would be recognised in most countries.

You are right abot the purpose of this forum and I found it usefull information. We have to go by the official requirements and if some offices ignore these, great. But the practise is that not every office ignore the requirement of a teacher license and one should be aware of this.

I do understand the differece between the diploma being offered in English and a degree in education. Hence my decision to enroll on a Master degree in Education Administration course, the diploma has been a tool used for Thai people for around 40 years as a means to getting qualified as a teacher after graduating from University in their chosen field.

If foreigners don’t want to take this course as it won’t be recognized abroad then that is their call. But if this teacher’s license palaver goes ahead 100%, then upon receipt of the temporary license people will have two years to some how meet the requirements. Now if 60.000 baht and weekends over a year are too much for some people then use the two years to do a Masters.

Everybody's situation is different but for me with a wife and child I will do all I can to meet the requirements that are placed in front of me.

I always find it useful to remember that we choose to live in this country…

So good luck to all regarding this precarious situation we find ourselves in….

and thanks Mario2008

Edited March 7, 2009 by AJmatt

[zaphodbeeblebrox]

I did some investigation and have learned the following:

The November immigration order is valid. The vast majority of immigration officers, however, are not following the order and are not requiring teachers to produce a teacher's license from the TCT when granting an extension to stay. These immigration officers consider the requirement to be unreasonable and are waiting for the MOE to clarify the requirements next month.

If you run into an immigration officer who is enforcing the TL requirement for an extension of stay, apply to the TCT for a two-year waiver. The letter to the TCT should state that you currently can't afford the fees for the course, and that you intend to take the course in the future. You also need to provide proof you have been teaching in Thailand with a WP for at least 1 year. Include copies of your bachelor's degree diploma, and the usual 4 signed copies of your other documents. I believe that if you have not been teaching for 1 year, you need to have your director sign a letter saying your are mana from heaven for the school's English department and the school can't live without you.

The TCT will provide a waiver which satisfies the immigration officers. The waiver, however, is only good as long as you stay at the same school. I suppose you could apply for a new waiver, should you switch schools.

[Mario2008]

Nice work and confirms what Nan-immigration is telling.

[Loaded]

Probably the largest single employer of native-speaker teachers in Chiang Mai, Dara Academy, is extending their non-imm Bs for their teachers at the moment without problem and without mention of a TL from Immigration.

[Mario2008]

Probably the largest single employer of native-speaker teachers in Chiang Mai, Dara Academy, is extending their non-imm Bs for their teachers at the moment without problem and without mention of a TL from Immigration.

The requirement for a TL is currently only for teachers employed by government schools.

[Ijustwannateach]

I think you should destinguish between a teachers license and a degree in education. The problem with the teachers license is that it is only recognised in Thailand, where a real degree in education would be recognised in most countries.

You are right abot the purpose of this forum and I found it usefull information. We have to go by the official requirements and if some offices ignore these, great. But the practise is that not every office ignore the requirement of a teacher license and one should be aware of this.

I do understand the differece between the diploma being offered in English and a degree in education. Hence my decision to enroll on a Master degree in Education Administration course, the diploma has been a tool used for Thai people for around 40 years as a means to getting qualified as a teacher after graduating from University in their chosen field.

If foreigners don’t want to take this course as it won’t be recognized abroad then that is their call. But if this teacher’s license palaver goes ahead 100%, then upon receipt of the temporary license people will have two years to some how meet the requirements. Now if 60.000 baht and weekends over a year are too much for some people then use the two years to do a Masters.

Everybody's situation is different but for me with a wife and child I will do all I can to meet the requirements that are placed in front of me.

I always find it useful to remember that we choose to live in this country…

So good luck to all regarding this precarious situation we find ourselves in….

and thanks Mario2008

Good luck to you, too- and I'd like to see you posting in some other threads besides this one before I suddenly decide you are only on this subforum because of your pro-TCT agenda, and it's not just a strange coincidence that with barely 3 dozen posts to your name you are spouting loads of pro-TCT links....

[BruceMangosteen]

The requirement for a TL is currently only for teachers employed by government schools.

I notice a lack of any mention of the Culture Course in these most recent exchanges with the Teachers Council representative/defender. Has it been abolished or simply no longer a part of these discussions? We must assume you can get the "waiver" or the "temporary" without the culture scam.

Edited March 8, 2009 by BruceMangosteen

[BruceMangosteen]

The TCT will provide a waiver which satisfies the immigration officers. The waiver, however, is only good as long as you stay at the same school. I suppose you could apply for a new waiver, should you switch schools.

I think the waiver is granted to the school, not the teacher. Permission I guess to hire 1,2,3,and 4 who don't have a TL under some I also "guess" false pretense 1,2,3,and 4 will soon be enrolling in graduate (or in some cases, undergraduate) Thai Universities, take the culture course, and outlay from their personal funds 200,000baht over the next year or two to meet the requirements, thank you very much.

[AJmatt]

The requirement for a TL is currently only for teachers employed by government schools.

I notice a lack of any mention of the Culture Course in these most recent exchanges with the Teachers Council representative/defender. Has it been abolished or simply no longer a part of these discussions? We must assume you can get the "waiver" or the "temporary" without the culture scam.

I don't know what the exact requirements for getting a temporary teacher’s license are, everyone I know who has a temporary or a teacher’s license has done the culture course.

The other teachers and I had it paid for by our School. We went to Suan Dusit Rajaphat University Bangkok and studied for 2 weekends all expenses paid. But we are some of the luckier ones.

I will attempt to find out the exact requirements to get a temporary license…

[BruceMangosteen]

The other teachers and I had it paid for by our School. We went to Suan Dusit Rajaphat University Bangkok and studied for 2 weekends all expenses paid. But we are some of the luckier ones.

I will attempt to find out the exact requirements to get a temporary license…

Two weekends? And all expenses paid?? Did you have to share hotel rooms with another teacher? How much per-deim for meals and entertainment? I thought this culture course scam was only one weekend as well. Regarding the exact requirements, no worries. Such things are never relevant in Thailand when hiring teachers so why would they be regarding licensing them?

[otherstuff1957]

I have a temporary Teacher's License and have never been near a Thai Culture Course. Of course, TIT and things may change next year. For that matter, things may change if I go to desk #3 instead of desk #4 when I do my Visa extension at Immigration next year!

[zaphodbeeblebrox]

The other teachers and I had it paid for by our School. We went to Suan Dusit Rajaphat University Bangkok and studied for 2 weekends all expenses paid. But we are some of the luckier ones.

Our school was going to put on the culture course training at a conference center in Maptuphut in March, free for our teachers and 5,000 baht for anyone else. We canceled the training course when we discovered the MOE was issuing new regulations.