Russian PM: West is rekindling the Cold War with NATO moves

[ardokano]

other group on the basis of race, nationality, religion, gender or sexual orientation.

Please can i ask

Becouse for me and so many people its big deal.

Have two meaning russians- ethnicity and nationality.

Past 100 years many politic play with this is two meaning.

In russian lang have - "Russkiy" now its meaning ethnicity ( but some politic still play with meaning nationality) and "Rossiyanin"

Its nationality(as American).A hundred years ago "Russkiy" be as "American" -nationality.

This game started the Social Democrats (with the support of the "West") , later part of their radikalnpya (Bolsheviks) become Communists -to destroy the Russian Empire (one of the methods of incitement to hatred).

So in Engleash its same meaning -" Russians"

Called the Russians-"Communists". Or call the Soviet Union - Russia. for some people this comparison offensive. The same if call all Germans- "Nazis".

Edited February 14, 2016 by ardokano

[midas]

i think this statement sums it all up.............................

" At this point in time, nuclear war can only be avoided in two ways. One way is for Russia and China to surrender and accept Washington’s hegemony. The other way is for an independent leader in Germany, the UK, or France to rise to office and withdraw from NATO. That would begin a stampede to leave NATO, which is Washington’s prime tool for causing conflict with Russia and, thereby, is the most dangerous force on earth to every European country and to the entire world.

If NATO continues to exist, NATO together with the neoconservative ideology of American hegemony will make nuclear war inevitable ".

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal.

[craigt3365]

i think this statement sums it all up.............................

" At this point in time, nuclear war can only be avoided in two ways. One way is for Russia and China to surrender and accept Washington’s hegemony. The other way is for an independent leader in Germany, the UK, or France to rise to office and withdraw from NATO. That would begin a stampede to leave NATO, which is Washington’s prime tool for causing conflict with Russia and, thereby, is the most dangerous force on earth to every European country and to the entire world.

If NATO continues to exist, NATO together with the neoconservative ideology of American hegemony will make nuclear war inevitable ".

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal.

You mean the same guy who said the U.S. government executed the Paris terror attack to punish France for its independent foreign policy.

[Rancid]

Of course, it's always the West's fault. Russia has done nothing to make others nervous. Ukraine, Georgia, Syria, Chechnya, massive military buildup, numerous airspace incursions, etc. LOL

http://www.newsweek.com/putin-explores-legal-loopholes-take-back-baltic-nations-354379

Putin Explores Legal Loopholes to Take Back the Baltic Nations

Well if you can't trust Newsweek to give the truth who can you trust?

NATO has been the main aggressor, the Military Industrial Complex needs a bigger enemy to really get those dollars rolling in. Only Russia fits the bill. Regardless it doesn't matter whether we want to believe the mainstream medias fantasy or the actual truth, they are going to do what they are going to do.

I don't live in Europe so it wont be me in a radioactive wasteland, so keep up the NATO cheering and enjoy the show.

[craigt3365]

Of course, it's always the West's fault. Russia has done nothing to make others nervous. Ukraine, Georgia, Syria, Chechnya, massive military buildup, numerous airspace incursions, etc. LOL

http://www.newsweek.com/putin-explores-legal-loopholes-take-back-baltic-nations-354379

Putin Explores Legal Loopholes to Take Back the Baltic Nations

Well if you can't trust Newsweek to give the truth who can you trust?

NATO has been the main aggressor, the Military Industrial Complex needs a bigger enemy to really get those dollars rolling in. Only Russia fits the bill. Regardless it doesn't matter whether we want to believe the mainstream medias fantasy or the actual truth, they are going to do what they are going to do.

I don't live in Europe so it wont be me in a radioactive wasteland, so keep up the NATO cheering and enjoy the show.

So you are saying NATO has invaded Russia's sovereign territory? Russia is pumping this up for propaganda value to their citizens. Gotta make them believe the West are the bad guys. LOL

If you don't like Newsweek, plenty of other articles from a variety of sites with the same info.

[Publicus]

 

i think this statement sums it all up.............................

" At this point in time, nuclear war can only be avoided in two ways. One way is for Russia and China to surrender and accept Washington’s hegemony. The other way is for an independent leader in Germany, the UK, or France to rise to office and withdraw from NATO. That would begin a stampede to leave NATO, which is Washington’s prime tool for causing conflict with Russia and, thereby, is the most dangerous force on earth to every European country and to the entire world.

If NATO continues to exist, NATO together with the neoconservative ideology of American hegemony will make nuclear war inevitable ".

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal.

Putin is irredentist about Russian speaking peoples and former Czarist lands and he is revanchist about the former Russian-Soviet bloc.

Putin is trying to change by military force the physical borders of Europe-Eurasia which is the first such aggressive state-against-state belligerence since World War II.

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts and Joseph Goebbels are two of a kind. Appointed to the Treasury by Ronald Reagan, Roberts exists only in a different time and circumstance than Goebbels and lasted only a year at Treasury before being sent out of it.

Roberts also said the Boston Marathon bombings were a US Government plot and is a notorious opponent of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

The guy is a rightwingnut. He for instance ignores completely that Putin does continuing funding of far right parties in Nato countries hoping to find the one 'exceptional' leader who will lead a major country out of Nato in their shared whackjob belief it would lead to the crumbling of Nato. In other words, both together are looking for a fellow 21st century fascist.

Nato was created in 1949 to deter Stalin's Soviet Russia invading Europe as it recovered from the war. Nato knew better than to dissolve when the Soviet Union collapsed because now Nato is facing down the Chekist Vladimir Putin and his gang of KGB and GRU spies, assassins, thugs that that rule over and worship Russia the mother.

[AlexStepashkin]

Of course, it's always the West's fault. Russia has done nothing to make others nervous. Ukraine, Georgia, Syria, Chechnya, massive military buildup, numerous airspace incursions, etc. LOL

http://www.newsweek.com/putin-explores-legal-loopholes-take-back-baltic-nations-354379

Putin Explores Legal Loopholes to Take Back the Baltic Nations

I suggest you to get more deeper understanding behind each of those events before doing some assumptions.

Nobody needs the baltic nations but baltic nations themselves.

Putin is irredentist about Russian speaking peoples and former Czarist lands and he is revanchist about the former Russian-Soviet bloc.

Putin is trying to change by military force the physical borders of Europe-Eurasia which is the first such aggressive state-against-state belligerence since World War II.

Sorry, but it's just bullshit. There is nothing like USSR anymore for a long time already.

Edited February 14, 2016 by AlexStepashkin

[craigt3365]

I have read about these events. And spent time in the Baltics seeing how they were treated under Soviet occupation. It doesn't get much worse.

[midas]

 

i think this statement sums it all up.............................

" At this point in time, nuclear war can only be avoided in two ways. One way is for Russia and China to surrender and accept Washington’s hegemony. The other way is for an independent leader in Germany, the UK, or France to rise to office and withdraw from NATO. That would begin a stampede to leave NATO, which is Washington’s prime tool for causing conflict with Russia and, thereby, is the most dangerous force on earth to every European country and to the entire world.

If NATO continues to exist, NATO together with the neoconservative ideology of American hegemony will make nuclear war inevitable ".

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal.

Putin is irredentist about Russian speaking peoples and former Czarist lands and he is revanchist about the former Russian-Soviet bloc.

Putin is trying to change by military force the physical borders of Europe-Eurasia which is the first such aggressive state-against-state belligerence since World War II.

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts and Joseph Goebbels are two of a kind. Appointed to the Treasury by Ronald Reagan, Roberts exists only in a different time and circumstance than Goebbels and lasted only a year at Treasury before being sent out of it.

Roberts also said the Boston Marathon bombings were a US Government plot and is a notorious opponent of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

The guy is a rightwingnut. He for instance ignores completely that Putin does continuing funding of far right parties in Nato countries hoping to find the one 'exceptional' leader who will lead a major country out of Nato in their shared whackjob belief it would lead to the crumbling of Nato. In other words, both together are looking for a fellow 21st century fascist.

Nato was created in 1949 to deter Stalin's Soviet Russia invading Europe as it recovered from the war. Nato knew better than to dissolve when the Soviet Union collapsed because now Nato is facing down the Chekist Vladimir Putin and his gang of KGB and GRU spies, assassins, thugs that that rule over and worship Russia the mother.

So if you consider him to be a right wing nut, is Democrat Tulsi Gabbard considered a left-wing nut for the same warning?

Dem Lawmaker: Obama Could Start “Devastating Nuclear War” With Russia

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12/house-democrat-obama-could-start-devastating-nuclear-war-with-russia/

Edited February 14, 2016 by midas

[Grouse]

other group on the basis of race, nationality, religion, gender or sexual orientation.

Please can i ask

Becouse for me and so many people its big deal.

Have two meaning russians- ethnicity and nationality.

Past 100 years many politic play with this is two meaning.

In russian lang have - "Russkiy" now its meaning ethnicity ( but some politic still play with meaning nationality) and "Rossiyanin"

Its nationality(as American).A hundred years ago "Russkiy" be as "American" -nationality.

This game started the Social Democrats (with the support of the "West") , later part of their radikalnpya (Bolsheviks) become Communists -to destroy the Russian Empire (one of the methods of incitement to hatred).

So in Engleash its same meaning -" Russians"

Called the Russians-"Communists". Or call the Soviet Union - Russia. for some people this comparison offensive. The same if call all Germans- "Nazis".

Thank you for your erudite explanation. Much appreciated!

[Publicus]

 

Of course, it's always the West's fault. Russia has done nothing to make others nervous. Ukraine, Georgia, Syria, Chechnya, massive military buildup, numerous airspace incursions, etc. LOL

http://www.newsweek.com/putin-explores-legal-loopholes-take-back-baltic-nations-354379

Putin Explores Legal Loopholes to Take Back the Baltic Nations

I suggest you to get more deeper understanding behind each of those events before doing some assumptions.

Nobody needs the baltic nations but baltic nations themselves.

Putin is irredentist about Russian speaking peoples and former Czarist lands and he is revanchist about the former Russian-Soviet bloc.

Putin is trying to change by military force the physical borders of Europe-Eurasia which is the first such aggressive state-against-state belligerence since World War II.

Sorry, but it's just bullshit. There is nothing like USSR anymore for a long time already.

 

The thread and topic have become more erudite by the page if not by the post.

Not not not.

Declaratory statements that state nothing lead to nowhere. It looks like Putin has run out of sock puppets of even their previously low calibre. His prior fanboyz are beginning to look fairly good by contrast.

[Publicus]

 

 

i think this statement sums it all up.............................

" At this point in time, nuclear war can only be avoided in two ways. One way is for Russia and China to surrender and accept Washington’s hegemony. The other way is for an independent leader in Germany, the UK, or France to rise to office and withdraw from NATO. That would begin a stampede to leave NATO, which is Washington’s prime tool for causing conflict with Russia and, thereby, is the most dangerous force on earth to every European country and to the entire world.

If NATO continues to exist, NATO together with the neoconservative ideology of American hegemony will make nuclear war inevitable ".

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal.

Putin is irredentist about Russian speaking peoples and former Czarist lands and he is revanchist about the former Russian-Soviet bloc.

Putin is trying to change by military force the physical borders of Europe-Eurasia which is the first such aggressive state-against-state belligerence since World War II.

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts and Joseph Goebbels are two of a kind. Appointed to the Treasury by Ronald Reagan, Roberts exists only in a different time and circumstance than Goebbels and lasted only a year at Treasury before being sent out of it.

Roberts also said the Boston Marathon bombings were a US Government plot and is a notorious opponent of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

The guy is a rightwingnut. He for instance ignores completely that Putin does continuing funding of far right parties in Nato countries hoping to find the one 'exceptional' leader who will lead a major country out of Nato in their shared whackjob belief it would lead to the crumbling of Nato. In other words, both together are looking for a fellow 21st century fascist.

Nato was created in 1949 to deter Stalin's Soviet Russia invading Europe as it recovered from the war. Nato knew better than to dissolve when the Soviet Union collapsed because now Nato is facing down the Chekist Vladimir Putin and his gang of KGB and GRU spies, assassins, thugs that that rule over and worship Russia the mother.

So if you consider him to be a right wing nut, is Democrat Tulsi Gabbard considered a left-wing nut for the same warning?

Dem Lawmaker: Obama Could Start “Devastating Nuclear War” With Russia

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12/house-democrat-obama-could-start-devastating-nuclear-war-with-russia/

Many of us recognise a rightwingnut when we see one.

So that's 0 for 2 on posts.

Go for a hat trick maybe...

[AlexStepashkin]

Declaratory statements that state nothing lead to nowhere.

That's perfectly describes your thesis about Putin's plan of conquering Baltic Nations, which is not going to happen and never was planned in modern Russia. So check your arguments first, at least their basis. Nobody cares about stalin and ussr anymore, even in russia he's not very much loved by people

Edited February 14, 2016 by AlexStepashkin

[Norvid 1950]

Some of the readers here have disturbing messages. Putin a seasoned KGB and communist party apparatchik is doing what all heads of this soviet state did in the past. Aggression against free nations. After the judeobolsheviks took control over tsarists Russia in second revolution 1917, they aggressively wanted to spread the "good" news to all the countries in west of their border. In 1920 they attacked Poland and Poland won. They had withdrew. In 1939 they signed partition of Europe in Molotov-Ribbentrop agreement and in September 15 crossed Polish borders annexing Polish territory, deporting people to concentration camps all over soviet's territory. In 1944 formed judeocommunist government in soviet Russia and sent to Poland finalizing their judeocommunist Poland as the consequence of their own actions.Mass killing of Polish intelligentsia took place with active Jewish helpers especially in towns. For the Jews this was an act of welcome statement of the new judeocommunism and for Polish people a betrayal of Jewish community being there for many centuries, who did not assimilated. The Yalta agreement in 1943 was a betrayal of all their participants under the governing body of soviets and Stalin. This was in fact a partition of Europe. Soviets installed their the judeocommunist governments in all Eastern Europe, installed their military bases there, deported millions of pro-liberal and pro-democratic intelligentsia, imprisoned millions and killed millions. These governments survived intact until 1989, when Solidarity won; still their presents is visible today.

Putin according to a centuries old doctrine is simple; take over as much territory as possible to provide "safe" Russian borders. The policy is exactly like the Germany had under the NSDAP from 1933. All countries under forced law and order and diktat of these judeocommunists lost a lot. Mainly intelligentsia and in the Polish case in forest of Katyn soviets killed 15,000 Polish officers with single shot to the back of their heads and blamed Germans for their crime.

If anybody think that Putin is straightforward with his words and action, think twice. He wants to rebuild old soviet Russia and Crimean disputed territory is just an example. The serious allegation that Russians destroyed Polish military plane with all its passengers on board recently currying Polish prime-minister and top government and military officials is in European courts right now. The plane was never returned or any part of it despite multiple demands. The Polish as they call themselves democrats only play the Russian hand. Those democrats are sons or judeocommunist past. Don't be surprised Eastern Jews are not as those in the West. They will sell you blind for a buck and since they are all pro-communists, they are an enemies of the freedom loving people. Extermination of locals after soviets invasion was their doings and /or collaboration with occupying forces.

Obama neglected and abandon NATO some years ago and is trying to come to senses. It's never too late for that. All countries belonging to NATO made their choice by free will, and not as under soviet control, where they were made under the soviet/Moscow diktat. Putin will be in this soviet style Russian government until his death. In and out, but always in control. New dictator and people in Russia will love it. He made Russia more safe by eliminating those Jewish oligarchs, who stole Russian wealth. Up to 80% of all government employees at the top were Jews. This is Putin statement.

Easter Europe needs true protection against potential aggressor, which Russia definitely was, is and will be, until people will be able to recognize what democratization really means. Strong NATO is a deterrent to all potential aggressors.

Finally it looks like going to happen thanks to Russia Crimean district aggression.

[AlexStepashkin]

Some of the readers here have disturbing messages. Putin a seasoned KGB and communist party apparatchik is doing what all heads of this soviet state did in the past. Aggression against free nations. After the judeobolsheviks took control over tsarists Russia in second revolution 1917, they aggressively wanted to spread the "good" news to all the countries in west of their border. In 1920 they attacked Poland and Poland won. They had withdrew. In 1939 they signed partition of Europe in Molotov-Ribbentrop agreement and in September 15 crossed Polish borders annexing Polish territory, deporting people to concentration camps all over soviet's territory. In 1944 formed judeocommunist government in soviet Russia and sent to Poland finalizing their judeocommunist Poland as the consequence of their own actions.Mass killing of Polish intelligentsia took place with active Jewish helpers especially in towns. For the Jews this was an act of welcome statement of the new judeocommunism and for Polish people a betrayal of Jewish community being there for many centuries, who did not assimilated. The Yalta agreement in 1943 was a betrayal of all their participants under the governing body of soviets and Stalin. This was in fact a partition of Europe. Soviets installed their the judeocommunist governments in all Eastern Europe, installed their military bases there, deported millions of pro-liberal and pro-democratic intelligentsia, imprisoned millions and killed millions. These governments survived intact until 1989, when Solidarity won; still their presents is visible today.

Putin according to a centuries old doctrine is simple; take over as much territory as possible to provide "safe" Russian borders. The policy is exactly like the Germany had under the NSDAP from 1933. All countries under forced law and order and diktat of these judeocommunists lost a lot. Mainly intelligentsia and in the Polish case in forest of Katyn soviets killed 15,000 Polish officers with single shot to the back of their heads and blamed Germans for their crime.

If anybody think that Putin is straightforward with his words and action, think twice. He wants to rebuild old soviet Russia and Crimean disputed territory is just an example. The serious allegation that Russians destroyed Polish military plane with all its passengers on board recently currying Polish prime-minister and top government and military officials is in European courts right now. The plane was never returned or any part of it despite multiple demands. The Polish as they call themselves democrats only play the Russian hand. Those democrats are sons or judeocommunist past. Don't be surprised Eastern Jews are not as those in the West. They will sell you blind for a buck and since they are all pro-communists, they are an enemies of the freedom loving people. Extermination of locals after soviets invasion was their doings and /or collaboration with occupying forces.

Obama neglected and abandon NATO some years ago and is trying to come to senses. It's never too late for that. All countries belonging to NATO made their choice by free will, and not as under soviet control, where they were made under the soviet/Moscow diktat. Putin will be in this soviet style Russian government until his death. In and out, but always in control. New dictator and people in Russia will love it. He made Russia more safe by eliminating those Jewish oligarchs, who stole Russian wealth. Up to 80% of all government employees at the top were Jews. This is Putin statement.

Easter Europe needs true protection against potential aggressor, which Russia definitely was, is and will be, until people will be able to recognize what democratization really means. Strong NATO is a deterrent to all potential aggressors.

Finally it looks like going to happen thanks to Russia Crimean district aggression.

Just another "putin is bad, russkiys are threat" copypasta based on not linked events with each other. Not going to happen, you'll see that yourself.

Edited February 14, 2016 by AlexStepashkin

[ardokano]

Nobody cares about stalin and ussr anymore, even in russia he's not very much loved by people

Ha ha

Its from second reality?

Many people in Russia call stalin it hero and even its stalin care about Russians and even some want come back this time.

And ofcouse have some people miss not only anti russian gang- stalin even miss about antirassian USSR.

And want this is time come back.

[AlexStepashkin]

Nobody cares about stalin and ussr anymore, even in russia he's not very much loved by people

Ha ha

Its from second reality?

Many people in Russia call stalin it hero and even its stalin care about Russians and even some want come back this time.

And ofcouse have some people miss not only anti russian gang- stalin even miss about antirassian USSR.

And want this is time come back.

That's a farse. I'm from Russia myself, and I can assure you, most people here hate Stalin because of random repressions back in the past. But that was long ago, and Stalin is not here, and politics of RU has nothing to do with USSR and world situation back then. All those mentions of "RU want to invade Baltic Nations" are just lunatics talks of those, who want to see RU as something evil. RU don't have interest here for a long time already. Maybe newspapers trying to post this theory as some logical looking chain of events, but, sorry, it's just too silly. You'll see yourself that no such things as "RU goes and takes all Baltics" is going to happend. Both no interest and nobody wants to start a conflict with NATO etc.

Your description of events looks like "Germany still wants to invade everybody around them because previously they had Hitler around, so that's why Angela Merkel still wants to do it". Obviously it's not how thing works.

If you have doubts, just go to Russia and take survey with random people here. You'll see that almost nobody even thinking of Baltics nowadays + don't like Stalin.

Edited February 15, 2016 by AlexStepashkin

[craigt3365]

I'm sure most Russian people hate Stalin. Memories are long and it wasn't that long ago. And you are right, the RU is not the USSR. But the man in charge now is from that time. Russia has done many things to make the Baltics nervous. Zapad-13 was a biggie:

http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/features/after-ukraine-are-the-baltics-in-putins-sights

It’s not just a matter of increasingly belligerent rhetoric. The harassment of the Baltics has stepped up from occasional irritants (bans on the import of Latvian sprats or Lithuanian cheese, for example) and low key mischief-making, to large scale military exercises (“Zapad-13” in 2013 involved 70,000 Russian and Belarusian soldiers war-gaming in operations against “Baltic terrorists”), incursions into Baltic airspace and a series of gestures clearly designed to demonstrate that Baltic independence doesn’t quite count.

Actions speak louder than words. I'm sure the Russian people don't care about the Baltics. Sadly, their opinion doesn't count. Only Putin's does.

[AlexStepashkin]

And you are right, the RU is not the USSR. But the man in charge now is from that time.

Russian foreign policy was never about Baltics whatsoever in latest 10 or even more years.

I don't share an expression about he's "being from that time". It's not true actually - his most productive work before presidency happened in the 199x already, and that time is not anyhow connected to Stalin's plans of the past (which are were based on world situation of that time, it's important, because now it's totally different). The only place I see scary captions like "Putin now goes for Baltics" are Baltics newspapers and USA articles.

Baltics has not good political relationship with Russia historically. Just the same story - there already were many russians on their territory, and there were ethnical lathvians, and the latest don't liked the first. I believe that tention in their modern relationship wasn't initiated by RU on the first place (i'm referencing modern situation, not USSR whatsoever), and such things as "cheese bans" are not aggression, but a reply on some other Lathvian negative act against RU, but I don't have background on those exact events

I just find it kinda silly to say that RU going to invade Baltics just because there were several air space trespassing (just like in any other country, which are regulated peacefully in most cases) and because there were few product bans (which are, if we close eyes on policital background, could be initiated just because of bad things being found here, which is not so rare nowadays). I can't see any interest of RU in those territory nowadays, it's just don't make sence. RU is interested in doing business with everyone (you can see that by looking at RU's positive foreign relationship with other countries instead of Baltics), but they don't like it when NATO get around them too close, just as wouldn't like it any other country in it's condition.

I had relationship with a girl from Lathvia (russian family) some time ago, and she described to me how they are being pressed by Lathvian government and people here, how they're being prevented to even speak by their usual language. It's not so simple as "RU gonna blow Baltics", it's just a negative relationship between each other country, just as a political confrontation between any other county, there are plenty of the same examples in the world.

Edited February 15, 2016 by AlexStepashkin

[craigt3365]

It wasn't that long ago the Baltics were "annexed" by the USSR. Their treatment was horrible. And many ethnic Russians were brought in to dilute the locals presence. I went to several museums in these countries last year. Their feelings towards Russia are not good. And perhaps for good reason.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvia

In 1940, the country was forcibly incorporated into the Soviet Union, invaded and occupied by Nazi Germany in 1941, and re-occupied by the Soviets in 1944 to form the Latvian SSR for the next fifty years. The peaceful Singing Revolution, starting in 1987, called for Baltic emancipation of Soviet rule. It ended with the Declaration on the Restoration of Independence of the Republic of Latvia on 4 May 1990, and restoring de facto independence on 21 August 1991.^[19]

^{....................}

In the post-war period, Latvia was made to adopt Soviet farming methods. Rural areas were forced into collectivisation.^[56] An extensive programme to impose bilingualism was initiated in Latvia, limiting the use of Latvian language in official uses in favour of using Russian as the main language. All of the minority schools (Jewish, Polish, Belorussian, Estonian, Lithuanian) were closed down leaving only two media of instructions in the schools: Latvian and Russian.^[57] An influx of labourers, administrators, military personnel and their dependants from Russia and other Soviet republics started. By 1959 about 400,000 people arrived from other Soviet republics and the ethnic Latvian population had fallen to 62%

These types of statements don't help either:

http://www.newsweek.com/putin-explores-legal-loopholes-take-back-baltic-nations-354379

Last week, Yevgeny Fedorov, a ruling party Duma majority member asked the Russian Prosecutor General's office to examine the 1991 recognition of the sovereignty of the Baltic states by the USSR State Council. The prosecutor's office obliged.

Now, the same Fedorov and a colleague want to annul the creation of the State Council altogether as "an act of treason," and possibly put Mikhail Gorbachev on trial for the dismantlement of the Soviet Union.

[AlexStepashkin]

These types of statements don't help either:

http://www.newsweek.com/putin-explores-legal-loopholes-take-back-baltic-nations-354379

Last week, Yevgeny Fedorov, a ruling party Duma majority member asked the Russian Prosecutor General's office to examine the 1991 recognition of the sovereignty of the Baltic states by the USSR State Council. The prosecutor's office obliged.

Now, the same Fedorov and a colleague want to annul the creation of the State Council altogether as "an act of treason," and possibly put Mikhail Gorbachev on trial for the dismantlement of the Soviet Union.

In sake of making picture a little more complete:

Duma works on poll basis, it's not connected to Putin's decisions itself. It's just a bunch of people from several fractions, and each of them has their own vision of things and own projects to implement.

Fedorov is a known furious nationalist here, and his request doesn't mean that Russia now see for loopholes to get Baltics back. It's just an initiative that's probably has a demostrative (i'd say provocative) nature, maybe an answer to something else Baltics done against RU lately (like political position or something else). I also could't find source on "The prosecutor's office obliged". There already were initiatives that don't go outside newspapers or beginning stage (actually lots of them), so no reason to worry imho.

Anyway, thanks for your time on quotes, it's always good to hear something constructive and not only "ru is bad putin is evil whatsoever", because most of such speech are examining things out of their context in my experience.

Edited February 15, 2016 by AlexStepashkin

[heina]

Serbia, Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, ...continue?

Has NATO forced its views on any one? Has NATO invaded a sovereign nation? Does NATO daily push its air force right to the limits of sovereign airspace and occasionally across it? Where is the aggressive stance that NATO is showing?

[craigt3365]

These types of statements don't help either:

http://www.newsweek.com/putin-explores-legal-loopholes-take-back-baltic-nations-354379

Last week, Yevgeny Fedorov, a ruling party Duma majority member asked the Russian Prosecutor General's office to examine the 1991 recognition of the sovereignty of the Baltic states by the USSR State Council. The prosecutor's office obliged.

Now, the same Fedorov and a colleague want to annul the creation of the State Council altogether as "an act of treason," and possibly put Mikhail Gorbachev on trial for the dismantlement of the Soviet Union.

In sake of making picture a little more complete:

Duma works on poll basis, it's not connected to Putin's decisions itself. It's just a bunch of people from several fractions, and each of them has their own vision of things and own projects to implement.

Fedorov is a known furious nationalist here, and his request doesn't mean that Russia now see for loopholes to get Baltics back. It's just an initiative that's probably has a demostrative (i'd say provocative) nature, maybe an answer to something else Baltics done against RU lately (like political position or something else). I also could't find source on "The prosecutor's office obliged". There already were initiatives that don't go outside newspapers or beginning stage (actually lots of them), so no reason to worry imho.

Anyway, thanks for your time on quotes, it's always good to hear something constructive and not only "ru is bad putin is evil whatsoever", because most of such speech are examining things out of their context in my experience.

You mean this guy is like some of the crazies voted into office in the US? LOL Or EU countries? Or African? etc, etc, etc....great reply. Thanks!

P.S. I did some home stays in Siberia while doing the Trans-Siberian RR. Absolutely fantastic. I went from Irkutsk to Lake Baikal one day. A bit too early in the season. I missed the last bus at 2pm and had to hitchhike back. Quite scary for me as I'm on a road for several hours with hardly any vehicles passing. I was eventually picked up by a car filled with great people. We talked and laughed all the way to my hotel. Later that night, I was in a guys basement jamming to old rock tunes. He spoke little English, I spoke little Russian. His ex-wife did the translations. Drank vodka till the wee hours. One of my most favorite travel moments ever. I had many during my 3 week RR trip.

As I always say, it's the poor, and honest, people who pay the price for their "leaders" decisions. Sadly....