A Valentine’s Day Salute To Thai Womanhood

[thehelmsman]

It all boils down to the farang individual experiences, observations, and their own perceptions of things, peculiar to Thai culture. The kaleidoscopic right or wrong of considered farang opinions, is really insignificant, when viewed from within the over-all scheme of things, that are, again, peculiarly Thai.

The Russian, and East European farangs, really do have the best (observed) "grip", on how to compatibly assimilate into the cultural fabric of Thailand, without first learning how to speak fluently, from within the kaleidoscope of nuances, "incorporated" within the Thai language arena.

Does anyone else, on the thread, care to venture a guess, as to the reason of WHY that is?

Sqatters and pla lah remind them of home.

[augustwest]

Ho many times have you seen a young girl passing you and she is bent over to show you her inferiority. Enuff said

[pgrahmm]

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Thai culture has its own very specific way of honoring elders, and showing respect towards elderly friends and relatives is believed to be both a duty and the basis of good manners.

Thais show their elders respect in very specific ways. These include:

1) Greeting elders with a wai.

2) Never standing over or sitting above an elder.

3) Speaking in a quiet and respectful voice, and using formal language. This rule is often a problem for some westerners, as many western families show their love and respect for elderly relatives by including them in conversations and boisterous arguments.

4) Never interrupting an elder.

5) Treating the elder as an honored guest, rather than as a friend. Thais are hospitable people as a general rule, and they roll out the proverbial red carpet for elder guests with snacks, drinks, and other goodies.

As a general rule, individuals who marry into a Thai family should be aware that merely feeling and expressing respect for elders is not considered sufficient in Thai culture. Manners matter to Thais, and showing respect via the avenues outlined above are considered basic good manners they are not an option, but a duty.

[stoneyboy]

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Thai culture has its own very specific way of honoring elders, and showing respect towards elderly friends and relatives is believed to be both a duty and the basis of good manners.

Thais show their elders respect in very specific ways. These include:

1) Greeting elders with a wai.

2) Never standing over or sitting above an elder.

3) Speaking in a quiet and respectful voice, and using formal language. This rule is often a problem for some westerners, as many western families show their love and respect for elderly relatives by including them in conversations and boisterous arguments.

4) Never interrupting an elder.

5) Treating the elder as an honored guest, rather than as a friend. Thais are hospitable people as a general rule, and they roll out the proverbial red carpet for elder guests with snacks, drinks, and other goodies.

As a general rule, individuals who marry into a Thai family should be aware that merely feeling and expressing respect for elders is not considered sufficient in Thai culture. Manners matter to Thais, and showing respect via the avenues outlined above are considered basic good manners they are not an option, but a duty.

Rightfully so.

But the majority of Thais,wives,girlfriends,family's and cling on's couldn't and do not care a toss about western culture.

It is in most cases all take and no give.

The only thing Thai people care about from the west is English premier league football and that is futile in discussion to say the least.

Try discussing with your average Thai the diverse cultural back ground of the Black Country where West Bromich Albion reside,it is a non starter.

[benalibina]

I agree with the OP on certain points,of which I have first hand personal experience.

Thai daughters most certainly do not command the same respect as Thai son's that much is true.

I never saw my brother in law or father in law preparing food in the kitchen like my wife and sister in law.

Quite the opposite,sitting on the floor being waited on hand and foot by the nearest Nong.

The delivery of the OP is exceptional and has in essence served its purpose of getting a rise out of certain fellow members.

Maybe some of the highlighted facts that the OP presented have struck a nerve with others.

Poor uneducated Thai women really are used and abused by all and sundry,some call it culture I call it draconian to say the least.

Open your eyes a little more and learn to think about the WHY of your observations.

Your last sentence......used and abused by WHO, mostly ofcourse ?

In the first occurrence of abuse the Thai boyfriend or husband who dumps them with a couple of kids after a few years.

And often in the second instance by ageing over weight foreign expats who have rescued them from the bar scene,whereby the relationship breaks down and descends into fighting and abuse due to the foreigner having absolutely no idea how to assimilate into Thai rural life feeling like he is being fleeced by the family or whole village.

Sadly for you I fit into neither category.

Why why why why is it the way how you describe the above ?

I happily await something sensible from you.

[TuskegeeBen]

I agree with the OP on certain points,of which I have first hand personal experience.

Thai daughters most certainly do not command the same respect as Thai son's that much is true.

I never saw my brother in law or father in law preparing food in the kitchen like my wife and sister in law.

Quite the opposite,sitting on the floor being waited on hand and foot by the nearest Nong.

The delivery of the OP is exceptional and has in essence served its purpose of getting a rise out of certain fellow members.

Maybe some of the highlighted facts that the OP presented have struck a nerve with others.

Poor uneducated Thai women really are used and abused by all and sundry,some call it culture I call it draconian to say the least.

Open your eyes a little more and learn to think about the WHY of your observations.

Your last sentence......used and abused by WHO, mostly ofcourse ?

In the first occurrence of abuse the Thai boyfriend or husband who dumps them with a couple of kids after a few years.

And often in the second instance by ageing over weight foreign expats who have rescued them from the bar scene,whereby the relationship breaks down and descends into fighting and abuse due to the foreigner having absolutely no idea how to assimilate into Thai rural life feeling like he is being fleeced by the family or whole village.

Sadly for you I fit into neither category.

Why why why why is it the way how you describe the above ?

I happily await something sensible from you.

I have previously considered you to be a more academically inclined debater (agree to disagree, then move "progressively" along), with your adversarial points of view. Up to this point, you have happily enjoyed my unwavering respect. Obviously, another effort in futility, on my part, sigh

However, you seem to be turning this exchange, into a 180 degree personal affront, to my individual experiences and observations. My considered opinions are mine, alone. If, those opinions are misguided,

in some way, shape or form, then only time (not you) will prove the opposites to be more true.

Please, do not hold your own breath, during your happily awaiting process, for something more sensible, forthcoming from me; in your considered opinions of me. Capiche, Mon Frere?

Edited February 17, 2016 by TuskegeeBen

[MaeJoMTB]

I agree , Thai women need to be celebrated. They are the cornerstone of this country.

We had a crew that build a cement block fence around our property, t was a husband, wife , two sons and a unrelated worker.

Of all the wife was the hardest worker, the one son was useless, always siting in his scooter pruning him self in the mirror why his mother was laboring in the hot sun, it made me sick to watch him.

Lunch time while they lay in the shade she made them food.

I am not used to having women do such physical work in the west, and I admite I was very uncomfortable to watch her work.

My hat off to Thai women:clap2:

Who in Thailand is mainly responsible for raising those ...men, the daddies or the mommies ? NOT my hat off to Thai women....for that.

In the immortal words of Fight Club,

"We're a generation of men, raised by women ...... I wondering if another woman is really the answer we need."

Edited February 17, 2016 by MaeJoMTB

[MaeJoMTB]

My Valentines Tribute to Thai women ............

They're really easy to shag ...... and cheap too!

No more needs to be said, 'cos that's why we're all here.

[HooHaa]

and the word of the day is "verbose"

[TuskegeeBen]

and the word of the day is "verbose"

As you probably know, we all have our own personal techniques, employed to compensate for our limitations. Obviously, verbosity is my way to achieve that goal.

Unlike several other "non-verbose", yet constantly present, troll posters, who never make a significantly positive contribution to any topic thread, your reply post is most welcome.

Thank you, for your honest "critique" of my writing style. I shall seriously consider making an obviously needed upgrade. Cheers, and redundantly so, I thank you, again

Edited February 17, 2016 by TuskegeeBen

[BB24]

My Valentines Tribute to Thai women ............

They're really easy to shag ...... and cheap too!

No more needs to be said, 'cos that's why we're all here.

Speaking about yourself again?

[TuskegeeBen]

OP topic thread conclusion, Re: the question asked in the last sentence.

It’s probably a fair guess, that those few members of the Pub, who really do have a clue, are keeping quiet about it, while simply duplicating a smart example.

Meanwhile, the vast majority of the virtual pint-drinking membership, are just scratching their pointed heads, in blissful “know-it-all” ignorance. Adios chaps. Best wishes to you all, and cheerio chaps, My Bird, and me, are off to Brazil

Edited February 17, 2016 by TuskegeeBen

[TuskegeeBen]

NOTICE: This post is a corrective update edition, to the previous post. Sorry about that.

OP topic thread conclusion, Re: the question asked in the last sentence of post # 29.

It’s probably a fair guess, that those few members of the Pub, who really do have a clue, are keeping quiet about it, while simply duplicating a smart example.

Meanwhile, the vast majority of the virtual pint-drinking membership, are just scratching their pointed heads, in blissful “know-it-all” ignorance. Adios chaps. Best wishes to you all, and cheerio chaps, My Bird, together with me, are now off, to Brazil

Edited February 18, 2016 by TuskegeeBen

[pgrahmm]

It's an ignorance is bliss situation presented here.....Whether they "get it" or don't they feel/know they or they are "right".....Such is the experience of Thailand......

It takes years/living/centuries to fathom as a Thai......

Yet - "we" come along as/with our defined common denominator......

How illuminating and kind of us to share it with the Thais......

[MaeJoMTB]

Most carry about their lives with a degree of elegance and a quiet dignity and strength......

....I cannot think of one woman in the family that is angry, harsh or loud -

You haven't met my wife?

Not to mention,

She doesn't cook, clean or wait!