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<deleted>? My sincere wish is that the US would completely forget about the rest of the world. It would be in better shape than it is now.

Really? I don't think so. If history tells us anything. The world would be a completely different place now. One none of us could imagine...for better or worse.

I'm not suggesting that either nationality deserves negative comment because my experience with both has been overwhelmingly positive, but I've heard both sides of that border 'have a go' at the other dozens of times, most good-natured ribbing in the way Brits/Aussies/Kiwis do. As recently as yesterday, so it's quite fresh.

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From an Aussie or Kiwi perspective, it might be tempting to draw parallels between the relationships of Canadians/Americans on the one hand, and Ozzies and Kiwis (maybe including Brits) on the other; but those would be wrong. I've worked, & lived & socialized in all these places.

In my experience, there is an underlying sense of deeper resentment yet necessary dependence by the Kiwis vis-a-vis the Aussies as well as some kind of kinship that you don't see in the US/Canadian relationships. US/Canadian relations are more relaxed and natural, without any underlying tensions (except perhaps in hockeysmile.png ).

Regarding Brits, they are mostly considered quaint by their accent to the average American, and again totally not threatened or threatening as they are so integrated into media, TV, film, and lifestyle. Hell, Americans were crazier about Princess Diana than the Brits. wink.png

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Canadians themselves are some of the nicest people anywhere. They have a culture of being polite and hospitable. Most of them live right near the US border partly because it's too danged cold up North and partly because, well, the US is there. Countless numbers of them pour over the US border every day to work. The same with shopping.

I have never heard a fellow American say one bad thing about Canadians. Not once. However, if they want to get involved in our politics, WE'LL BUILD A WALL!!.

LOL. tongue.png

With our dollar down 40% against yours - traffic is mostly south-north these days

and Thailand is getting expensive

but not for you of course

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He's (Trudeau) a Socialist! He wants America to join the European Socialists way of life! Canada is also part of the Nanny State"UK" control of their populations! The American do not want to become Socialists. Obama's Socialism has been a complete failure and the next election, our president will be a non-socialist! No matter who is our next President it will not be Socialist

Democrat. I will support whomever the Republicans nominate! Anybody would be better than Obama or Hillary!

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Canadians themselves are some of the nicest people anywhere. They have a culture of being polite and hospitable. Most of them live right near the US border partly because it's too danged cold up North and partly because, well, the US is there. Countless numbers of them pour over the US border every day to work. The same with shopping.

I have never heard a fellow American say one bad thing about Canadians. Not once. However, if they want to get involved in our politics, WE'LL BUILD A WALL!!.

LOL. tongue.png

We want the wall in order to keep you and yours that will be trying to cross into Canada after trumpet gets elected....... NO ENTRY !!

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Canadians themselves are some of the nicest people anywhere. They have a culture of being polite and hospitable. Most of them live right near the US border partly because it's too danged cold up North and partly because, well, the US is there. Countless numbers of them pour over the US border every day to work. The same with shopping.

I have never heard a fellow American say one bad thing about Canadians. Not once. However, if they want to get involved in our politics, WE'LL BUILD A WALL!!.

LOL. tongue.png

Never heard a negative? You must move in the most polite circles.

Having lived in states that border Canada for most of my life, I've also never heard a negative comment. Never.

..the ladies are ok, but I don't care much for the men !

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In the US, most people read a local paper. International news is one paragraph on page eight.

TV is the same way.

There just isn't the interest. It's their loss.

That is the most moronic thing I have ever heard in my life !

World news is not something that only non US people read..or hear. Furthermore....there is not one major newspaper in the USA that relegates world news to one paragraph on page eight...A complete lie.

Did you even think before writing your post?

I must be sandbagging...reading posts like yours.

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Back to the topic please. And abide by forum rules:

11) You will not post slurs, degrading or overly negative comments directed towards Thailand, specific locations, Thai institutions such as the judicial or law enforcement system, Thai culture, Thai people or any other group on the basis of race, nationality, religion, gender or sexual orientation.

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<deleted>? My sincere wish is that the US would completely forget about the rest of the world. It would be in better shape than it is now.

Really? I don't think so. If history tells us anything. The world would be a completely different place now. One none of us could imagine...for better or worse.

And there may be the truth of the opinion. Better or worse. Safer or less safe than now? Debate on that could reveal various opinion which I suspect would not favour the current situation so much.

My point was that, with the exception of the Marshall Plan, US attempts to control the "politics" of foreign countries has led to some very unfortunate situations in this century and the last. When I say this I am talking about the government not the people of America. The ME is a classic case .... installing the Shah, supporting the repressive Saudi regime, invasion of Iraq, the Arab (CIA) Spring, training and supporting ISIS to overthrow Assad etc etc. Agree, it's impossible to say what the state of the ME would be today in the absence of these US interventions. I am sure it would be a mess and they would be busy killing each other. However, it's unlikely that western countries would be in the cross hairs of every nut case that can fabricate a bomb

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My point was that, with the exception of the Marshall Plan, US attempts to control the "politics" of foreign countries has led to some very unfortunate situations in this century and the last. When I say this I am talking about the government not the people of America. The ME is a classic case .... installing the Shah, supporting the repressive Saudi regime, invasion of Iraq, the Arab (CIA) Spring, training and supporting ISIS to overthrow Assad etc etc. Agree, it's impossible to say what the state of the ME would be today in the absence of these US interventions. I am sure it would be a mess and they would be busy killing each other. However, it's unlikely that western countries would be in the cross hairs of every nut case that can fabricate a bomb

Absolutely correct. The US's involvement in the ME has been terrible. But go back a bit further and you'll see the mess created by the colonial powers. That's what created the Muslim Brotherhood.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood

Hassan al-Banna founded the Muslim Brotherhood in the city of Ismailia in March 1928 along with six workers of the Suez Canal Company, as a Pan-Islamic, religious, political, and social movement.%5B58%5D The Suez Canal Company helped Banna build the mosque in Ismailia that would serve as the Brotherhood's headquarters, according to Richard Mitchell's The Society of Muslim Brothers.%5B59%5D According to al-Banna, contemporary Islam had lost its social dominance, because most Muslims had been corrupted by Western influences. Sharia law based on the Qur'an and the Sunnah were seen as laws passed down by God that should be applied to all parts of life, including the organization of the government and the handling of everyday problems.%5B60%5D

Al-Banna was populist in his message of protecting workers against the tyranny of foreign and monopolist companies. It founded social institutions such as hospitals, pharmacies, schools, etc. Al-Banna held highly conservative views on issues such as women's rights, opposing equal rights for women, but supporting the establishment of justice towards women.[39] The Brotherhood grew rapidly going from 800 members in 1936, to 200,000 by 1938 and over 2 million by 1948.[61]

As its influence grew, it opposed British rule in Egypt starting in 1936,[62] but was banned after being accused of violent killings[63] including the assassination of a Prime Minister by a young Brotherhood member.[64][65][66]

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<deleted>? My sincere wish is that the US would completely forget about the rest of the world. It would be in better shape than it is now.

And so would the rest of the world! When Canada stops selling arms and allying themselves with America's pointless wars, the world will be a safer place.

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I am pretty impressed with Trudeau.

He's young, but very smart, logical and a streight shooter.

I think he is worth paying attention to.and listening to.

The world could use more leaders like him.

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