Echoing Republican split, evangelicals divide over Trump

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Echoing Republican split, evangelicals divide over Trump
By RACHEL ZOLL

NEW YORK (AP) — The list of prominent evangelicals denouncing Donald Trump is growing, but is anyone in the flock listening? The bloc of voters powering the real estate mogul through the Republican primaries is significantly weighted with white born-again Christians.

As Trump's ascendancy forces the GOP establishment to confront how it lost touch with so many conservative voters, top evangelicals are facing their own dark night, wondering what has drawn so many Christians to a twice-divorced, profane casino magnate with a muddled record on abortion and gay marriage.

John Stemberger, a Trump critic and head of the Florida Family Policy Council, an affiliate of Focus on the Family, said many evangelicals have changed. Litmus tests that for so long defined the boundaries for morally acceptable candidates seem to have been abandoned by many Christians this year, he said, no matter how much evangelical leaders try to uphold those standards.

"Evangelicals are looking at those issues less and less. They've just become too worldly, letting anger and frustration control them, as opposed to trusting in God," Stemberger said.

Trump has won the support of one-third of self-identified born-again Christians across the dozen or so states that have held GOP contests and where exit polls were conducted. In eight of the presidential primaries, he won more evangelicals than Ted Cruz, a Southern Baptist who has made appeals to conservative Christians the core of his campaign, according to polling.

"We're leading with evangelicals all over the country," Trump said Saturday at a rally in Wichita, Kansas. "Leading big, because they don't want to vote for a liar. You have lying Ted Cruz. ... He holds up the Bible and then he tells you exactly what I didn't say."

Trump is a Presbyterian who has said he has never sought God's forgiveness for his sins, botches Bible references and, on a recent campaign visit to church, mistook a communion plate for a donation plate.

Critics insist exit polls have overstated Trump's share of evangelical support, arguing many voters identifying themselves as "born again" in primaries are only nominally Christian.

An October survey from the Public Religion Research Institute backs this view. In the poll, white evangelical Republicans and those leaning toward the GOP who attended religious services weekly were far less likely to support Trump than those who attended infrequently.

"There's a form of cultural Christianity that causes people to respond with 'evangelical' and 'born-again' as long as they're not Catholic, even though they haven't been in a church since Vacation Bible School as a kid," said the Rev. Russell Moore, head of the public policy arm of the Southern Baptist Convention. Moore was an early and vocal opponent of Trump.

Trump's biggest evangelical endorsement of the race — from Jerry Falwell Jr., president of Liberty University, who said the billionaire businessman "lives a life of loving and helping others." — reflected the rift among Christians and even within the university itself. Trump only got 90 of nearly 1,200 votes cast in the university's precinct in the Virginia GOP primary last Tuesday.

In remarkably public criticism, Mark DeMoss, a Liberty board member and longtime adviser to the school's founder, the late Rev. Jerry Falwell Sr., called the endorsement a mistake.

"My concern, thinking about evangelicalism and Liberty University, is more about a style and a behavior and a demeanor and a vocabulary that you can't find any support for in Scripture," said DeMoss, who had advised Republican Mitt Romney's presidential campaigns. "I think the potential damage — and time will tell if there was real damage — was an erosion of trust in the school."

David Green, founder of the arts-and-crafts chain Hobby Lobby, said last week he found Trump and his "indecency" frightening. Green, a Pentecostal, is a hero to conservatives for persuading the U.S. Supreme Court that businesses like his, with religious objections to birth control, should be exempt from providing coverage for contraception as required by the Affordable Care Act.

"I cannot ... understand why the faith world would come alongside someone that completely is different than what we would like our children to be," Green told Fox News Channel.

Similar sentiments have been expressed across the upper tiers of influential evangelicals, from veteran religious right activists such as Stemberger; younger evangelicals including Matthew Lee Anderson of MereOrthodoxy.com; and Christians who rarely talk politics, including Max Lucado, the Texas pastor and best-selling author.

"If a public personality calls on Christ one day and calls someone a 'bimbo' the next, is something not awry? And to do so, not once, but repeatedly? Unrepentantly?" Lucado wrote recently in Christianity Today, a prominent evangelical magazine. "We stand against bullying in schools. Shouldn't we do the same in presidential politics?"

Yet it's not clear whether conservative Christian voters are paying attention. Trump's candidacy has revealed a distance between evangelical leaders and rank-and-file Christians similar to the one coming to light in the GOP. "The laity has its own attitudes and impulses," Anderson wrote.

While Moore and others are urging Christians to evaluate candidates using the Bible, many evangelicals are using other criteria, such as seeking a candidate who can protect them from the Islamic State group, liberalism, growing secularism among Americans and economic insecurity for the country and their families. The Public Religion Research Institute found that white, working-class evangelicals are more than twice as likely to support Trump than are evangelicals with a college degree.

The Rev. Carl Gallups, a Southern Baptist pastor from Milton, Florida, who gave the invocation at Trump's Pensacola rally last January, said he has had many conversations with fellow conservative Christians about making a pragmatic choice in favor of Trump.

"I tell them, if you are not thoroughly satisfied with what you might interpret the depth of his faith might be, then the next thing we must look at is the candidate who will best preserve your First Amendment rights and allow you to express your Christian faith," Gallups said. "We're not electing a priest, a pope or a pastor. We're electing a president, a CEO, a commander in chief. I'm not perfectly happy with Donald Trump either, but I'm a realist."

Harold F. Hunter, chancellor of Trinity Theological Seminary in Newburgh, Indiana, which offers online Bible courses, said he originally leaned toward former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush. But after praying, Hunter decided to support Trump because of his business experience, even if the candidate hasn't led the most exemplary personal life.

"Some evangelicals say, 'He's owned casinos. He's been this. He's been that,'" Hunter said. But one thing they agree is that "he is a capitalist. And capitalism is the strength of our country. He has exhibited, by amassing a fortune, that he understands capitalism," Hunter said.

Trump's claim that he "tells it like it is" is especially appealing for evangelicals who feel they've been silenced by liberals.

Keith Driver, 43, a musician and entertainment company owner from Emporia, Virginia, who attends a nondenominational church about once a month, said of Trump: "The things that he was saying were things that a lot of people want to say but are scared to say because of this crazy political correctness."

Driver said he wasn't aware of the denunciations of Trump by religious leaders and wouldn't pay attention if he had heard of them.

Evangelicals have never been as monolithic or easily led as they have been perceived. And 2016 is far from the first election season when a disconnect has been evident between groups of evangelical leaders and conservative Christians. In 2012, more than 150 mostly old guard religious right leaders emerged from a private meeting on a Texas ranch to endorse former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum for the GOP nomination. Romney went on to become the nominee.

But the chasm has been much more keenly felt this year, with a significant chunk of the conservative religious vote going to a candidate who dismisses critics as losers and boasts on the debate stage about his sexual prowess.

"I think it's more a commentary on growing cynicism in American life, including among religious Americans," Moore said. "There is a certain segment of evangelicalism that has given up virtue in public life or character in public officials."
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AP News Survey Specialist Emily Swanson in Washington, and Associated Press writers Travis Loller in Nashville, Tennessee, Meg Kinnard in Columbia, South Carolina, and Tamara Lush in Tampa, Florida, contributed to this report.


-- NNT 2016-03-07

[spidermike007]

This is a fascinating topic. I have always thought, that if you begin to speak about your faith, and as a candidate, start to represent yourself as a man of faith, that there has to be some demonstration of that, in daily life. Trump will do anything, or say anything to achieve a goal. He has demonstrated that over and over again in his career. Now that he is running for the position of top dog, he is claiming to be religious, and is appealing to the evangelical voters.

Well, does it mean anything if a man claims to be religious, but has never demonstrated that one iota, in his life?

1. He is the least generous of the candidates. Some who have examined the extent of his charity (a reasonable thing to do with a billionaire candidate, right?) have come to the conclusion that he is an absolute grinch, and has given a fabulously low amount of money away, in his entire life. For a man who is a self described "ardent philanthropist", it is shocking how little he actually donates to worthy causes. When you compare him to many other billionaires, such as Zuckerberg, Buffet, Turner, Gates, Ellison, and some others, he is the stingiest of them all, by such a huge margin, it is remarkable, especially for someone who professes he is a Christian.

Trump’s foundation began in 1987 and exists to donate money to other charities. It has no staff, and its annual IRS filings have regularly listed Trump’s average time spent on it as “minimal” or zero hours a week. The foundation has given out $3.6 million between 2011 and 2013, the most recent year in which its finances are available. The overwhelming majority of its recent gifts have been made with other people’s money. NBC Universal, World Wrestling Entertainment and high-end, sporting and entertainment event ticket-reseller Richard Ebers are among the largest donors; Trump made his last significant donation, of $30,000, in 2008.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/review-finds-trumps-charity-donations-modest/

2. Lawsuits. Some would argue that any billionaire is going to have some enemies. I would argue, that as a true Christian, it is possible to conduct business with an attitude of "Win, win". You can make money, without raping your counterpart. Not the Trump philosophy. He absolutely refuses to leave even $1 on the table, during his negotiations. Many talk about how violated they felt, at the conclusion of a deal with this man. Is this a Christian spirit? And there are hundreds who have been defrauded by this man over the years. Many of those people are actively pursuing lawsuits against him. Is this the way a real, practicing Christian, conducts his business?

3. Bankruptcies. He has declared bankruptcy four times, erasing a total of $4,700,000,000 in debt. Though alot of this money was borrowed from banks, those banks were publicly traded companies, therefore it can be argued that he stole (or at the very least, lost) money from the public trust. Would a true Christian have felt OK about doing this?

I will go out of my way to argue he is not Christian. He may be by birth. But, he is NOT a practicing Christian. He does nothing to demonstrate that he is. It is only babble. No action. No acts of generosity, no charity, no kindness toward his community nor toward his business associated. He is legendary for being ruthless, and vengeful. He is racist, xenophobic, hateful, nasty, venomous, caustic, and lack compassion on any level. None of these are Christian characteristics or qualities.

I am not a religious man. Spiritual maybe, but not religious. But, I believe if you are going to talk about your religious or spiritual beliefs in public you simply have to be held to a higher standard, and when your life is examined, there simply have to be some signs of that which you profess to be true. In the case of Trump, there are NONE. ZIP. NADA. He is an empty vessel of a man. A soul which is bereft of noble qualities. In the rather bright light of day, he is the polar opposite of a practicing Christian.

[NeverSure]

^^^ Ah, but people who are religious have a certain set of beliefs that transcends anything their religion actually teaches or more important, what isn't required to go to church to learn.

Perhaps they believe in hard work and that a man is entitled to be paid for what work he does. Someone who isn't a Christian but espouses that belief will get their agreement.

Someone else might go to church and espouse a belief in their religion, and then do or say things they disagree with.

When it comes to politics and electing a leader, they might be more interested in what a candidate is proposing to do than whether he attends their church.

That said, AFAIK Cruz is the only candidate that claims to be an evangelical Christian. How many voters would choose him for that fact only I don't know but I'll bet it helped him in Kansas which is in the heart of "The Bible Belt". That doesn't explain his win in Maine which is largely not religious.

If Trump is attracting a large number of avowed Christians, it's because of what he proposes to do and not what religion he wears on his sleeve. Most of these Christians are very patriotic and someone standing up for the country "might" win them over.

Cheers.

[inaktive]

since pretty much all the evangelical christians cherrypick the bible for the parts they like and not what it is trying to teach i think noone should care what they say.

but in realitity its that they did have much too much influence for too long and in the last decade did pretty much control the GOP.

but even the GOP should start to see that they cant win anymore on the bible alone and need more candidates in the middle or in the long run they will loose it all