Hi,

I renting my house to a tenant in Thailand while I am living in my home country. The tenant contacted me and said he needed a copy of the rental agreement in my name rather than the person looking after the rental of our house, a copy of the house book and a copy of the chanote to obtain his work permit. I can understand why they need the first two items, but I am concerned about sending a copy of the chanote as even a copy if a valuable document. Does anyone know if this is a requirement for a work permit? My tenant is using a visa company to obtain his work permit.

I would appreciate if anyone let me know if a chanote of a rental house is a requirement for a work permit.

Thanks

Woofer

Not an authority….but it sounds farfetched.

The only requirement for a work permit should be employment letter from company with proof of salary, academic qualifications….why should they care where the applicant rents?

Perhaps confusion between a work permit and applying for an extension at immigration. Although there have been reports of some work permit offices wanting proof of residence.

They may want proof you actually own the house since a house book does not have your name on it. Some immigration office have a requested a copy of the chanote with the blue book. The may also want a copy of your passport.

If you give them a copy, draw 2 Parallel lines diagonally across the document copy and write something like "Only for purposes of Thai Immigration" (or whatever is appropriate) in between the lines.

That is quite standard in Thailand when you need to give copies of important documents to all and sundry.

thedmon post # 4

If you give them a copy, draw 2 Parallel lines diagonally across the document copy and write something like "Only for purposes of Thai Immigration" (or whatever is appropriate) in between the lines.

That is quite standard in Thailand when you need to give copies of important documents to all and sundry.

thedemon offers sage advice .

As said make sure that those lines are thick and squiggly as well.

Documents are so very easy to replicate these days.

You could lose your property due to outright forgery and fraud or as a security for a loan or a business transaction etc. The avenues of fraud are manifold.

Edited April 10, 201610 yr by shunter

Perhaps confusion between a work permit and applying for an extension at immigration. Although there have been reports of some work permit offices wanting proof of residence.

I was also asked to provide this stuff last time around (not sure whether it was extension or WP).

If you give them a copy, draw 2 Parallel lines diagonally across the document copy and write something like "Only for purposes of Thai Immigration" (or whatever is appropriate) in between the lines.

That is quite standard in Thailand when you need to give copies of important documents to all and sundry.

Exactly, the locals do this all the time for all kind of copies.

Nobody will be able to take over your land based on a chanod copy. But TiT, everything is possible

Not an authority….but it sounds farfetched.

The only requirement for a work permit should be employment letter from company with proof of salary, academic qualifications….why should they care where the applicant rents?

Thanks

Perhaps confusion between a work permit and applying for an extension at immigration. Although there have been reports of some work permit offices wanting proof of residence.

They may want proof you actually own the house since a house book does not have your name on it. Some immigration office have a requested a copy of the chanote with the blue book. The may also want a copy of your passport.

I think you are correct. On email contact with the tenants he seems to be applying for a spousal l visa.

Thanks

Perhaps confusion between a work permit and applying for an extension at immigration. Although there have been reports of some work permit offices wanting proof of residence.

I was also asked to provide this stuff last time around (not sure whether it was extension or WP).

Thanks for your input.

If you give them a copy, draw 2 Parallel lines diagonally across the document copy and write something like "Only for purposes of Thai Immigration" (or whatever is appropriate) in between the lines.

That is quite standard in Thailand when you need to give copies of important documents to all and sundry.

Exactly, the locals do this all the time for all kind of copies.

Nobody will be able to take over your land based on a chanod copy. But TiT, everything is possible

Thanks for your input

thedmon post # 4

If you give them a copy, draw 2 Parallel lines diagonally across the document copy and write something like "Only for purposes of Thai Immigration" (or whatever is appropriate) in between the lines.

That is quite standard in Thailand when you need to give copies of important documents to all and sundry.

thedemon offers sage advice .

As said make sure that those lines are thick and squiggly as well.

Documents are so very easy to replicate these days.

You could lose your property due to outright forgery and fraud or as a security for a loan or a business transaction etc. The avenues of fraud are manifold.

I will do thanks

When I applied for my last visa extension I had to supply photocopies of my landlords ID card, rental agreement and their blue book. On the copies they drew diagonal lines across as detailed above. Immigration are definitely asking for my proof regarding residence these days.

Edit: typo

Edited April 10, 201610 yr by Jay1

When I applied for my last visa extension I had to supply photocopies of my landlords ID card, rental agreement and their blue book. On the copies they drew diagonal lines across as detailed above. Immigration are definitely asking for my proof regarding residence these days.

Edit: typo

Thanks for the info

As a digression I think we should all look at how Woofer had responded. Extremely courteous and polite and thanks passed on to everyone for their advice.

The man or perhaps it's a woman is a shining example of how people used to react and in a minority of cases still do react.

As a digression I think we should all look at how Woofer had responded. Extremely courteous and polite and thanks passed on to everyone for their advice.

The man or perhaps it's a woman is a shining example of how people used to react and in a minority of cases still do react.

Agreed. Sometimes I feel like saying thank you on behalf of someone when they get a detailed, informative, and helpful response and don't have the courtesy to say thank you.

As a digression I think we should all look at how Woofer had responded. Extremely courteous and polite and thanks passed on to everyone for their advice.

The man or perhaps it's a woman is a shining example of how people used to react and in a minority of cases still do react.

Thanks. I am always appreciate getting good answers to my questions.

Regards

As a digression I think we should all look at how Woofer had responded. Extremely courteous and polite and thanks passed on to everyone for their advice.

The man or perhaps it's a woman is a shining example of how people used to react and in a minority of cases still do react.

Agreed. Sometimes I feel like saying thank you on behalf of someone when they get a detailed, informative, and helpful response and don't have the courtesy to say thank you.

Thanks mate!

As a digression I think we should all look at how Woofer had responded. Extremely courteous and polite and thanks passed on to everyone for their advice.

The man or perhaps it's a woman is a shining example of how people used to react and in a minority of cases still do react.

Agreed. Sometimes I feel like saying thank you on behalf of someone when they get a detailed, informative, and helpful response and don't have the courtesy to say thank you.

Thanks mate!

Hahaha

UJ is spot on with his summary Woofer.

It's normal to take the landlord's ID and house book when applying for extensions as proof of address.

Being a foreign Condo owner though your name will not appear in your blue book.

Your chanote will carry your name though and proof of ownership.

The renter may require a copy of your passport, chanote and blue book to satisfy Immigration.

Nothing unusual about his request.

thedmon post # 4

If you give them a copy, draw 2 Parallel lines diagonally across the document copy and write something like "Only for purposes of Thai Immigration" (or whatever is appropriate) in between the lines.

That is quite standard in Thailand when you need to give copies of important documents to all and sundry.

thedemon offers sage advice .

As said make sure that those lines are thick and squiggly as well.

Documents are so very easy to replicate these days.

You could lose your property due to outright forgery and fraud or as a security for a loan or a business transaction etc. The avenues of fraud are manifold.

A bit off topic but worth adding. When bank takes a copy of your passport for a with at away from home branch always write the full details: dat, time, bank name and branch state 'withdrawal', amount in words and numbers. If ban officer comes from photocopy machine with 2 copies I conscicate the second copy.

Why? When I first came to Thailand a European guy (now in Bkk jail long term) living in the apartment I just moved into into boldly asked for my passport, what remained of any airline tickets, boarding passes, travel insurance etc., etc. I asked why. His response 'never mind'. I refused but others fell for his tricks.

He was a 'professional' insurance, travel etc., scam artist.

Examples

1). Get a copy of someones passport, insurance agents helps prepare / get approved health insurance, scammers pay the first year premium. A few weeks later in cahoots with unethical doctors / staff at various hospitals they get false medical reports and false receipts for payment of the bills and start claiming, quite lucrative.

2). Use old airline tickets to lodge false claims for various aspects of poor service etc., etc.

and more.

UJ is spot on with his summary Woofer.

It's normal to take the landlord's ID and house book when applying for extensions as proof of address.

Being a foreign Condo owner though your name will not appear in your blue book.

Your chanote will carry your name though and proof of ownership.

The renter may require a copy of your passport, chanote and blue book to satisfy Immigration.

Nothing unusual about his request.

Thanks for the info. I will supply the tenant with the information he requested. I thought I better check before I did.

Cheers

Alan

I simply would NOT give a copy of the Chanote ownership. End of story. A copy of

the lease and a copy of the photo of your passport with the above mentioned thick

squiggly lines and what the photocopy is for should be enough. Everything else forget

about it. Maybe consider more if your man on the ground taking care of your rent collection

is known to you and trustworthy and they can accompany your tenant to the government

agency making the request. There are just too many scams going on. A loan is taken out

on the house in your name and you will be responsible. The banks/loan givers are well

protected, the home owner is not. You will be left to repay the loan and it will be up

to you to get the money back from the tenant. BEWARE

A lease doesn't prove ownership.

If Woofer was a Thai citizen, his ID card and blue Tabian Baan would be sufficient for Immigration.

However he is not Thai and by law the blue Tabian Baan which he was issued when he purchased the Condo doesn't allow his name to be entered into the book as a foreigner. In these circumstances only his Chanote is real evidence of ownership.

As I previously stated, nothing unusual about Immigration or the tenants request. I suggest you stop scaremongering.

I simply would NOT give a copy of the Chanote ownership. End of story. A copy of

the lease and a copy of the photo of your passport with the above mentioned thick

squiggly lines and what the photocopy is for should be enough. Everything else forget

about it. Maybe consider more if your man on the ground taking care of your rent collection

is known to you and trustworthy and they can accompany your tenant to the government

agency making the request. There are just too many scams going on. A loan is taken out

on the house in your name and you will be responsible. The banks/loan givers are well

protected, the home owner is not. You will be left to repay the loan and it will be up

to you to get the money back from the tenant. BEWARE

Thanks for the advice.

Woofer