sotsira Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 It just goes to show how the perception of the Uk peoples mind has changed over the years, Governments, media, lawyers, MP,s, School teachers, they've all played their part, but for the better or for the worse? In my view, for the worse because the racist issues have been taken to such an extreme that it's become more highlighted and sensitive than ever before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rixalex Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 There are times when the pendulum swings too far in the other direction, but i'm able to appreciate and understand why there are times along the way to achieving a more equal and less prejudiced society, and ridding it of a deeply ingrained bigotry, when this might be a necessary part of the whole process. To take one step forward sometimes you have to take two steps to get there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieH Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Why are some things said nowadays racist when they weren't in the past and nobody got offended by them ? because society has evolved. they were still offensive back then but people weren't educated as to why. now they are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfieconn Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 (edited) Why are some things said nowadays racist when they weren't in the past and nobody got offended by them ? because society has evolved We're talking approx 35 years ago not 3500 years ago they were still offensive back then but people weren't educated as to why. now they are. Can you elaborate a bit more on that stevie ! Edited November 3, 2012 by alfieconn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotsira Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 I don't remember the UK having any more racist issues 30-35yrs ago than it has today, if anything, the UK has more of a racist issue now than before. Why? Because it's been drummed in to everyone to such a point that it's become an issue systematically. I think the definition of the word racism has also been interpreted wrongly in modern day UK which has fuelled the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 A ban for the player and and a fine or even deduction of points to the club. Then a charge of slander to Mikkel from Clattenburg in the high court. All three are appropriate IF no evidence is forthcoming. Some resignations too for the handling of the matter. If it is the case, I hope they get the book thrown at them. Disgusting little club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Only in The Chelsea thread would Suarez get defended for what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rixalex Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Only in The Chelsea thread would Suarez get defended for what he said. Sadly mate not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Do you guys remember the series "Love Thy Neighbour" Im surprised You Tube hasn't been banned from showing it, how would that go down in UK tv today? http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=a5qStUlbdMM Exactly sots, did people get offended by it ? no, would they if it was shown today ? yes, so whats the difference between then and now ? About 40 years and a politically correct society of blame game lawyers. Ironically it was always the racist white neighbour made to look like a plank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjj Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Do you guys remember the series "Love Thy Neighbour" Im surprised You Tube hasn't been banned from showing it, how would that go down in UK tv today? http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=a5qStUlbdMM Exactly sots, did people get offended by it ? no, would they if it was shown today ? yes, so whats the difference between then and now ? About 40 years and a politically correct society of blame game lawyers. Ironically it was always the racist white neighbour made to look like a plank. It would actually be quite interesting to get the black actors opinion from these programmes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Thought Swansea deserved the draw today. As I saw last week when we played them, they play some good football and I like that Michu lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjj Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 No complaints, that was the worst we have played this season. Torres has to go. The guy makes Berbatov look energetic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumrit Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Have you been to South America? It's not seen as an insult to call someone negro when they are dark skinned. Bit like farang here. Yes, in the UK it's one of the evil words, but Suarez was primarily guilty of not knowing UK culture. As soon as he got that reaction from Evra it was like a red flag to a bull, like most players want to wind up an opposing player. Have you been to South America? A mate of mine spent several years working in various parts of South America and according to him it most definitely is an insult there. Yes you can joke privately with black friends and it's all taken in good humour but when said in the context that Suarez said it to Evra it still is an insult there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjj Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Yes I have. About 4 times. And a friend of mine worked as a footy coach there. Did I call anyone negro? No. Did I hear it? Yes. Footy coach friend used it and heard it a lot. Nobody offended. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithsimmonds Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 As said before Torres is .ucked in the head sell him and that greedy git Sturridge, then get Lukaku back, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjj Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Damned if you do, damned if you don't. http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/how-terry-storm-led-to-chelsea-pursuing-mikel-monkey-claim-8280550.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) Damned if you do, damned if you don't. http://www.independe...im-8280550.html I think its more a case of not making allegations without evidence. If evidence has been shown then its a brainer and Clattenbergs career is over. If there is no concrete evidence shown chelsea fc will be taken to task. Isn't this something that Bruce Buck should have been abundantly aware of? Edited November 5, 2012 by carmine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjj Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 And if it got out that players heard racist abuse and CFC did nothing, CFC would be taken to task. No win situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 And if it got out that players heard racist abuse and CFC did nothing, CFC would be taken to task. No win situation. You really are over reaching now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 As said before Torres is .ucked in the head sell him and that greedy git Sturridge, then get Lukaku back, I could probably dig out a post about Sturridge when he went from us to you. It basically said the same as you have and that you were welcome to him. Nothing he has done at Chelsea has changed my mind that we were right to get rid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithsimmonds Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 As said before Torres is .ucked in the head sell him and that greedy git Sturridge, then get Lukaku back, I could probably dig out a post about Sturridge when he went from us to you. It basically said the same as you have and that you were welcome to him. Nothing he has done at Chelsea has changed my mind that we were right to get rid. All my mates who don,t support Chelsea,and thats quite a few of them,saw last wednesday,s game and couldn,t beleive how selfish he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nev Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2227148/Chelseas-credibility-crashing-Des-Kelly.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SantiSuk Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Chelsea will be playing twelve men every game for the forseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 http://www.dailymail...s_campaign=1490 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacknDanny Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 http://www.dailymail...s_campaign=1490 A very good article. Chelsea have to be crazy taking action!! Couple that with the fact that Clattenberg is a Geordie. Ramires cant even understand proper English, let alone when a Geordie starts . The balance of probabilities??? Chelsea must have some legal retard advising them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 http://www.dailymail...s_campaign=1490 A very good article. Chelsea have to be crazy taking action!! Couple that with the fact that Clattenberg is a Geordie. Ramires cant even understand proper English, let alone when a Geordie starts . The balance of probabilities??? Chelsea must have some legal retard advising them. And bruce Buck, the CEO is supposed to be a laywer isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nev Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 http://www.dailymail...s_campaign=1490 A very good article. Chelsea have to be crazy taking action!! Couple that with the fact that Clattenberg is a Geordie. Ramires cant even understand proper English, let alone when a Geordie starts . The balance of probabilities??? Chelsea must have some legal retard advising them. And bruce Buck, the CEO is supposed to be a laywer isn't he? With a name like that he must be a yank.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 http://www.dailymail...s_campaign=1490 A very good article. Chelsea have to be crazy taking action!! Couple that with the fact that Clattenberg is a Geordie. Ramires cant even understand proper English, let alone when a Geordie starts . The balance of probabilities??? Chelsea must have some legal retard advising them. And bruce Buck, the CEO is supposed to be a laywer isn't he? With a name like that he must be a yank.? i think he could be a merchant banker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Chelsea will be playing twelve men every game for the forseeable future. Exactly. If Suarez thinks he isn't getting a fair shake...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjj Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Apparently Clatterberg isn't going to be interviewed until next week by the FA. Whilst I find this whole affair quite distasteful, I do wonder what the FA are doing. Why does everything take so long? From what I understand there is no video or audio evidence. This could be checked in a matter of hours. So why not then just tell everyone involved to be somewhere to sort it out the next day. The Terry case went on for a year and now this is going to drag on and on, just sort it out and move on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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