Bizarre death of company president likely suicide, say police

[webfact]

Bizarre death of company president likely suicide, say police


Source: Daily News

BANGKOK: -- Police called to a company premises in the north of Bangkok found a man dead in bizarre circumstances - he had his face wrapped tightly in clear tape and his hands were tied and attached to a bed.

Sai Mai police were called to a four storey building in the Avenue Wacharapol estate late last night, reported Daily News. They found Thongma Mahamatphoom, 44, on a bed above the Ruay Dee Mee Suk leather business of which he was company president.

He was face up and fully clothed and there were no signs of a struggle in the room. His hands were bound with stout string and the tape on his face and head extended to the neck area.

Police said he probably arranged the hand restraints before wrapping his head in the tape. He would have been unable to breath and then placing his hands in the restraints and tightening them he would have been unable to save himself from suffocation.

Relatives have been contacted to find out why he might have taken his life though police suspect a failing business is the reason.

Source: Daily News

-- 2016-06-17

[rkidlad]

??

I can imagine the police now;

Senior copper: "Looks like suicide to me"

Junior copper: "Should we not run a blood test first before we inform the family?"

Senior copper: "We could. Or, we could go for dinner"

Junior copped: "Dinner it is, then"

[Laughing Gravy]

The way this is described as a suicide is beyond me. Please Mr. Policeman can you show us how this is possible. Even Poirot couldn't come up with that. Very sad and condolences for the family.

[chainarong]

Very bizarre indeed , then again you tend not to struggle with a glock held at your head , just a suggestion...................................... ..

[mtls2005]

Follow the money.

Seems like a lot of work to go to for a suicide - there was a case here in the last 10 years where a chap was shot twice in the head and once in the chest, and that was ruled a suicide - and this doesn't sound like a "Carradine".

[thaiduncankk]

Houdini gone wrong ?

[Just1Voice]

You can only shake your head in amazement and laugh.

[halloween]

Very bizarre indeed , then again you tend not to struggle with a glock held at your head , just a suggestion...................................... ..

Whether it was a Glock or a bazooka, a suffocating person will struggle. If you don't believe me, try it yourself.

[Bluespunk]

''Police said he probably arranged the hand restraints before wrapping his head in the tape. He would have been unable to breath and then placing his hands in the restraints and tightening them he would have been unable to save himself from suffocation.''

Stupidity beyond belief.

Edited June 17, 2016 by Bluespunk

[clockman]

Another L.O.U D. or land of unexplained deaths.

[z42]

Words fail me

[Winniedapu]

"Police said he probably arranged the hand restraints before wrapping his head in the tape. He would have been unable to breath and then placing his hands in the restraints and tightening them he would have been unable to save himself from suffocation."

It seems to me the only way this conclusion could have been reached, is for the police to have started with the assumption it was suicide and then approached the question of 'how?".

If the face and head down to the neck was covered in tape, I doubt the average man would have had time to wrap the tape, make sure it was airtight. then shackle himself using string hand ties. Less than a minute if the guy was fit.

The BiB don't mention if the hand shackles were tied in a slipknot that the victim could have tightened himself...

Heres another possible scenario.

If he was murdered, perhaps the police don't want it to be reported as a murder. Perhaps they know who did the deed, this is the Thai police we're talking about after all...

More investigation needed. Remember the debacle that was Koh Tao. When too many rather dim people start theorising, things get assumed pretty quickly sand it all gets too hard. "Time for my som tam" becomes the cry.

Winnie

Edited June 17, 2016 by Winniedapu

[dddave]

Talk to any cop or EMT in any city in the world and you will find that no matter where, people kill themselves every day, often in bazaar and convoluted ways...not unique to Thailand

According to WHO, Thailand was tied with Cuba for 56th place in 2012 world suicide stats...below the USA (50), Japan (17) and surprisingly, S.Korea at #2. Guyana was #1

Of course. mere facts wont deter the TV Constant Conspiracy Squad from their "Only in Thailand" mentality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate#List_by_the_World_Health_Organization_.282012.29

Edited June 17, 2016 by dddave

[rkidlad]

Talk to any cop or EMT in any city in the world and you will find that no matter where, people kill themselves every day, often in bazaar and convoluted ways...not unique to Thailand

According to WHO, Thailand was tied with Cuba for 56th place in 2012 world suicide stats...below the USA (50), Japan (17) and surprisingly, S.Korea at #2. Guyana was #1

Of course. mere facts wont deter the TV Constant Conspiracy Squad from their "Only in Thailand" mentality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate#List_by_the_World_Health_Organization_.282012.29

Thanks for that.

It could very well have been a suicide. But at the end of the day, investigate before you assume and tell them family of the victim.

A good police officer never rules anything out. And the RTP's reputation has led people to believe that they're not very good at their job. Sorry if we judge on reputation and not wishful thinking.

[iBike]

Talk to any cop or EMT in any city in the world and you will find that no matter where, people kill themselves every day, often in bazaar and convoluted ways...not unique to Thailand

According to WHO, Thailand was tied with Cuba for 56th place in 2012 world suicide stats...below the USA (50), Japan (17) and surprisingly, S.Korea at #2. Guyana was #1

Of course. mere facts wont deter the TV Constant Conspiracy Squad from their "Only in Thailand" mentality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate#List_by_the_World_Health_Organization_.282012.29

Possibly as stupid as the police

[JAG]

The way this is described as a suicide is beyond me. Please Mr. Policeman can you show us how this is possible. Even Poirot couldn't come up with that. Very sad and condolences for the family.

Poirot no,

Clouseau maybe...

[taony]

The bizarre part is the "police " explanation.

[Pimay1]

Follow the money.

Seems like a lot of work to go to for a suicide - there was a case here in the last 10 years where a chap was shot twice in the head and once in the chest, and that was ruled a suicide - and this doesn't sound like a "Carradine".

Reminds me when I was working in Jakarta. An American was found tied upside down to a large gate with his throat cut. It was ruled a suicide.

[shirtless]

Maybe a quick look at the companies books may have some answers.

[Sydebolle]

He was suicided - simple as that!

[phoenixdoglover]

This is a case where a reenactment would be most illuminating.

By all means, invite the media.

[Strangebrew]

Police said he probably arranged the hand restraints before wrapping his head in the tape. He would have been unable to breath and then placing his hands in the restraints and tightening them he would have been unable to save himself from suffocation Please prove this with an reenactment. Funny when you hear suicide first thing that comes to mind is hands tied up. RIP BIB is on the job. Case closed.

[Pimay1]

Police said he probably arranged the hand restraints before wrapping his head in the tape. He would have been unable to breath and then placing his hands in the restraints and tightening them he would have been unable to save himself from suffocation Please prove this with an reenactment. Funny when you hear suicide first thing that comes to mind is hands tied up. RIP BIB is on the job. Case closed.

Maybe he used his feet to wrap his head. Makes as much sense as what the police are saying.

[Rough Rider]

Talk to any cop or EMT in any city in the world and you will find that no matter where, people kill themselves every day, often in bazaar and convoluted ways...not unique to Thailand

According to WHO, Thailand was tied with Cuba for 56th place in 2012 world suicide stats...below the USA (50), Japan (17) and surprisingly, S.Korea at #2. Guyana was #1

Of course. mere facts wont deter the TV Constant Conspiracy Squad from their "Only in Thailand" mentality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate#List_by_the_World_Health_Organization_.282012.29

Thanks for that.

It could very well have been a suicide. But at the end of the day, investigate before you assume and tell them family of the victim.

A good police officer never rules anything out. And the RTP's reputation has led people to believe that they're not very good at their job. Sorry if we judge on reputation and not wishful thinking.

TIT. The easiest way for the cops to solve a case, is suicide. No matter how impossible it may look. There is always a way to commit suicide it even if the imposable is proved

[Rough Rider]

''Police said he probably arranged the hand restraints before wrapping his head in the tape. He would have been unable to breath and then placing his hands in the restraints and tightening them he would have been unable to save himself from suffocation.''

Stupidity beyond belief.

The easiest way for any cop here to solve a case, is suicide. No matter how impossible it may look. There is always a way to commit suicide it even if the imposable is proved

[Krataiboy]

The way this is described as a suicide is beyond me. Please Mr. Policeman can you show us how this is possible. Even Poirot couldn't come up with that. Very sad and condolences for the family.

Poirot no,

Clouseau maybe...

.

More like Haven'taclueso

[NeilSA1]

Talk to any cop or EMT in any city in the world and you will find that no matter where, people kill themselves every day, often in bazaar and convoluted ways...not unique to Thailand

According to WHO, Thailand was tied with Cuba for 56th place in 2012 world suicide stats...below the USA (50), Japan (17) and surprisingly, S.Korea at #2. Guyana was #1

Of course. mere facts wont deter the TV Constant Conspiracy Squad from their "Only in Thailand" mentality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate#List_by_the_World_Health_Organization_.282012.29

"Thailand was tied with Cuba for 56th place in 2012 world suicide stats"​

Perhaps these stats should make mention of "alleged" suicides.

[smew]

Only in LOS

[Dogberry]

Not saying he did it himself or not. And MAYBE the police got it almost right. The guy COULD HAVE wrapped his head with tape leaving only small breathing holes but with the tape overhanging. He restrained his hands, easy enough to do. Then he wiped his face across his arm or pillow or whatever, taping together and closing the breathing holes. It's been done before.

[wvavin]

I am very certain the Thai police forensic skill is so much better than the Scotland Yard.