phazey Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Anyone got any pics ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluecat Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 You're right. It is still raging. I was a bit too fast. It is just that the fire trucks and ambulances stopped rushing through Sathorn long ago. Anyway seeing the kind of fire trucks they were, I guess we have not seen the end of it yet,... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 at this rate it will be in phuket by... ooh June! <quivvers> Better check the fire extingishers! I hope no-one got hurt in the fire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaihome Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Photos Looks to me like the slum area that is [was] next door to the driving range. I think the high rise on the left in the second photo is Park Suan Plu. Looks like that photo is from the big skyscraper on Sathorn (can't remember the name). TH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluecat Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Anyone got any pics ? George posted one picture in BKK topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat Roper Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 it's live on ITV right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otherstuff1957 Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 I think that a lot of the old slums are basically property that was "homesteaded" a few generations back. With extended families living there and unclear titles, these houses rarely come on the real estate market. They are often located in what is now prime real estate. If the neighborhood burns, most of the inhabitants will probably just pack up and leave. Any holdouts could be bought out or booted out pretty easily. There's an "unused" property bill in Parliment now that has the Buddhist Church in an uproar. It would allow the govn't to appropriate "unused" land. As most of the unused land either has squatters on it or is owned by the various Wats, the Church isn't too happy with this bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezeure Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 That land option sounds quite possible... but I don't recall any bulldozers down in Pattaya. I DO recall bulldozers downing all the bars and shops in sukhumvit plaza by someone highly ranked... Anyway... it was a quite a while ago since we had a fire... I think Klong Thoey was the last one and that's quite a few years ago. (I don't count Novotel 33 as a fire... as it was only 3 floors that burned) Does anyone remember (about 8 years ago or more) all the large shopping centers which caught fire at night, (several The Malls, Centrals) so that this one insurance company would basically go bankrupt and that another one could come in (or at least that was the story afterwards) Sounds like the land deal no? Anyway greets from the cold cold belgium again (since yesterday) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat Roper Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 That land option sounds quite possible... but I don't recall any bulldozers down in Pattaya. I DO recall bulldozers downing all the bars and shops in sukhumvit plaza by someone highly ranked...Anyway... it was a quite a while ago since we had a fire... I think Klong Thoey was the last one and that's quite a few years ago. (I don't count Novotel 33 as a fire... as it was only 3 floors that burned) Does anyone remember (about 8 years ago or more) all the large shopping centers which caught fire at night, (several The Malls, Centrals) so that this one insurance company would basically go bankrupt and that another one could come in (or at least that was the story afterwards) Sounds like the land deal no? Anyway greets from the cold cold belgium again (since yesterday) I heard Mr. Suchinda was involved in that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaihome Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Map Would not be surprised if this land belongs to the Aeronautical Radio of Thailand that is right there. TH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjrbus Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Thanks for all the post's and info, being from NY large colums of smoke in the sky make me paranoid. And then to make it worse, most of the Thai people are just going on about there buisness as if nothing is happening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shopgurl Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 From my office window the smoke seems to be subsiding.....will keep you posted on new developments. - This has been Shopgurl reporting for Thai Visa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Thanks for all the post's and info, being from NY large colums of smoke in the sky make me paranoid. And then to make it worse, most of the Thai people are just going on about there buisness as if nothing is happening! I understand you jjrbus, but than in Thailand the people don't take it as tragedy. More, Aaaah, the slums in between the five star buildings. Yeah, hope nobody gets hurt or missed the warnings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shopgurl Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 I can just imagine all the land investors/condo developers salivating at this moment..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phazey Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Thanks for all the post's and info, being from NY large colums of smoke in the sky make me paranoid. And then to make it worse, most of the Thai people are just going on about there buisness as if nothing is happening! The Thai authorities have just upgraded their national security status from: "Don't care about it unless there's money in it for us" to "Lets go for Lunch" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxexile Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 At 15h50 the blaze does not seem under control at all!!! probably because the soi is too narrow for the fire engines to get through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 If I remember correctly about the Central Chidlom fire, the security guards wouldn't let the firemen into the store because they had/have a reputation for stealing stuff while on the premises. So it simply burned down. TIT. From George's photo, I'd say it was taken from what was the Banyan Tree and is now the Westin hotel, with the Sokhothai on the right. When I was up there in the bar before they turned it into a posh restaurant you could see the slums over near the expresway. Not really that close to Sathorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 The Thai authorities have just upgraded their national security status from: "Don't care about it unless there's money in it for us" to "Lets go for Lunch" Its a bit late for lunch, you know how these Thais like to eat! A good friend of mine in the govt that the actual national security status has in fact been upgraded to... "Lets go have a massage" Not sure if that comes above or below the lunch one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meadish_sweetball Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Thanks for all the post's and info, being from NY large colums of smoke in the sky make me paranoid. And then to make it worse, most of the Thai people are just going on about there buisness as if nothing is happening! That's why shrinks are filthy rich in New York, and why none of the locals here even know about psychiatry being a career option. Some reasons why Thais may take it easier than Westerners, in particular Americans: 1. It's too hot to worry. 2. If I stop and watch, I might miss out on that parking space, a once in a lifetime opportunity to park legally in Bangkok. 3. It's not anywhere near my house. 4. Today is Friday after all, and I need my soda-deluted 100 Pipers BADLY. No bleeding fires can stop me. 5. Great, this might divert my hubby's/wife's attention so I can sneak away with my lover no.2 (or maybe no.3) for some sanuk-sanaan. 6. No mushroom cloud, just smoke. Mai pen rai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meemiathai Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Suggestion from the Thais in my office - as Tung Mahamee lies between two well-developed areas, what are the odds that some big developer (no names, no pack drill) has an option on the land, when cleared? This was done in HK by the government 10/20 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuky Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 The Thai authorities have just upgraded their national security status from: "Don't care about it unless there's money in it for us" to "Lets go for Lunch" Its a bit late for lunch, you know how these Thais like to eat! A good friend of mine in the govt that the actual national security status has in fact been upgraded to... "Lets go have a massage" Not sure if that comes above or below the lunch one? So that would make the colour warning somewhere in the "red Light" district? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 If I remember correctly about the Central Chidlom fire, the security guards wouldn't let the firemen into the store because they had/have a reputation for stealing stuff while on the premises. So it simply burned down. TIT. Yes, I remember a story like this. Anyway at Central Chidlom the firemen apparently had done a good job and extinguished the fire. So it started once again 9:00 am next morning. BTW, the original fire started only after 9:00 p.m., i.e. after everybody had left the building. I say, that's caring. We don't want any accidental victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meemiathai Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 The Thai authorities have just upgraded their national security status from: "Don't care about it unless there's money in it for us" to "Lets go for Lunch" I think it's "we need some beer chang" already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meemiathai Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Thanks for all the post's and info, being from NY large colums of smoke in the sky make me paranoid. And then to make it worse, most of the Thai people are just going on about there buisness as if nothing is happening! That's why shrinks are filthy rich in New York, and why none of the locals here even know about psychiatry being a career option. Some reasons why Thais may take it easier than Westerners, in particular Americans: 1. It's too hot to worry. 2. If I stop and watch, I might miss out on that parking space, a once in a lifetime opportunity to park legally in Bangkok. 3. It's not anywhere near my house. 4. Today is Friday after all, and I need my soda-deluted 100 Pipers BADLY. No bleeding fires can stop me. 5. Great, this might divert my hubby's/wife's attention so I can sneak away with my lover no.2 (or maybe no.3) for some sanuk-sanaan. 6. No mushroom cloud, just smoke. Mai pen rai. Can we not love the Thais? I for one can't. It is not that they do not care but they understand that: c'est la vie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard W Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 BTW, the original fire started only after 9:00 p.m., i.e. after everybody had left the building. I say, that's caring. We don't want any accidental victims. I thought some of the staff inspecting the building afterwards were killed when some of it collapsed. Weren' t they innocent victims? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlissfullyIgnorant Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 I think it's "we need some beer chang" already! Puhlease... No self-respecting Thai official drinks that <deleted> - they'd much prefer to mix Johnny Black with some type of carbonated contaminate! It's all about street cred mate, and Elephant beer don't got none Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koh_Falang Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Some reasons why Thais may take it easier than Westerners, in particular Americans:1. It's too hot to worry. 2. If I stop and watch, I might miss out on that parking space, a once in a lifetime opportunity to park legally in Bangkok. 3. It's not anywhere near my house. 4. Today is Friday after all, and I need my soda-deluted 100 Pipers BADLY. No bleeding fires can stop me. 5. Great, this might divert my hubby's/wife's attention so I can sneak away with my lover no.2 (or maybe no.3) for some sanuk-sanaan. 6. No mushroom cloud, just smoke. Mai pen rai. I once had this kind of attitude when i was first living with my girlfriend... more to the subject of doing the laundry/dishers A "sexual favours ban" soon put me into line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlissfullyIgnorant Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 > A "sexual favours ban" soon put me into line... Oh man, dominated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Some people DID die at the Central fire, after they were ordered into the building despite it being declared off limits, so they could salvage some of the goods. But of course, the Central VIP responsible wasn't prosecuted for manslaughter or anything else, as far as I know. I don't know if he even donated the usual few baht to the families as conscience money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuky Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 What is the status guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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