UK: Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn loses confidence vote in wake of Brexit vote

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UK: Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn loses confidence vote in wake of Brexit vote



LONDON:: -- Leader of the UK’s opposition Labour Party Jeremy Corbyn has lost a confidence vote called by his MPs in the aftermath of the EU referendum result.

The motion of no confidence was passed by a majority of 172-40, but is not binding.

It does not trigger a leadership election within the party; the Labour leader’s allies have said the only way to challenge Corbyn is through a formal leadership contest.

Prior to the motion, Corbyn said he would not resign, even if a leadership race was on the cards.

It follows the resignation of the majority of Corbyn’s shadow cabinet and a number of his aides in the wake of the UK’s historic decision to leave the EU. Labour as a party was overwhelmingly in favour of remaining in the bloc.

-- (c) Copyright Euronews 2016-06-29

[Boon Mee]

He's always been a Loser of Biblical Proportions...

[colinneil]

Corbyn is living in the past. I am the boss you listen to me.

Somebody should inform him them days are long gone.

[CarolJadzia]

Corbyn has mass support, thousands of people are backing him and the numbers are growing day by day.

The right wing press and MP's hate the growing support for him and are trying to get him out, they are running scared!

A vote today showed he has 75% of the public vote. Let it go to election, that will be fun, he has grown the Labour membership by 50%, and some think they are suddenly going to switch support and vote for someone else instead? 555

[Ricardo]

"It does not trigger a leadership election within the party; the Labour leader’s allies have said the only way to challenge Corbyn is through a formal leadership contest.

Prior to the motion, Corbyn said he would not resign, even if a leadership race was on the cards. "

If only he had fought as hard, for the Remain campaign, as he is willing to in order to stay as party-leader.

There's a basic problem here, the party MPs are out-of-step (although they may be right) with their working-class supporters, and with their leader who was elected relatively-recently by a groundswell of activist supporters.

And yet he is judged by many to be unelectable, with the prospect of a possible imminent general-election, which is why the MPs are so concerned. They want to retain their seats, and get their party into power, which is their job.

PM Cameron accepted responsibility for the failure to persuade the country to follow his lead by resigning, and anyway was planning to quit within a couple-of-years, to give the new Conservative leader time to play him/herself in. Contrast that with Corbyn's stance.

[vogie]

Corbyn has mass support, thousands of people are backing him and the numbers are growing day by day.

The right wing press and MP's hate the growing support for him and are trying to get him out, they are running scared!

A vote today showed he has 75% of the public vote. Let it go to election, that will be fun, he has grown the Labour membership by 50%, and some think they are suddenly going to switch support and vote for someone else instead? 555

Have you a link to the "75% of the public vote" maybe 75% of the loony left would vote for him?

[Scott]

Off-topic post and replies removed.

[Morch]

Corbyn has mass support, thousands of people are backing him and the numbers are growing day by day.

The right wing press and MP's hate the growing support for him and are trying to get him out, they are running scared!

A vote today showed he has 75% of the public vote. Let it go to election, that will be fun, he has grown the Labour membership by 50%, and some think they are suddenly going to switch support and vote for someone else instead? 555

Doubt there are many key issues which would garner support from 75% of the UK electorate.

Edited June 29, 2016 by Morch

[Krataiboy]

Jeremy Corbyn is no fool. He has taken Labour back to its roots, which is why he is so popular with the ordinary voters. But the Blairites have been gunning for him ever since he became party leader.

He is no fan of the EU, but to have admitted as much publicly in the run-up to the referendum would have given Labour's closet right-wingers the chance they have been waiting for to bring him down. Hence his lukewarm endorsement of the Remain campaign, which clearly contributed to its dismal failure.

Corbyn is a lot more sophisticated and steely than his detractors claim. His strategy of damning the EU with faint praise was a major factor in persuading millions of Brits to extricate themselves from the EU, which has morphed from trading bloc into Trojan horse for the corporate and political elite and their US-led globalist agenda.

He has rightly identified the disenchantment of voters not just here but across the developed Western world, where the gap between rich and poor continues to widen, as just another phase in the same class struggle which has existed from time immemorial (however much the likes of millionaire City and Wall Street puppets Cameron and Obama would have us believe otherwise).

If the mass of ordinary, hard-working British people know what is good for them, they will continue to reject the Blairites, the jingoistic extremists of UKIP and the Conservative Party and the sneers of the mindless mass media and back this calm, gentle and thoroughly decent man in his bid to retain the Labour leadership.

In the wake of independence, he is our best hope for transforming Britain into the kind of country we would all be happy to roll up our sleeves up for.

Edited June 29, 2016 by Krataiboy

[KarenBravo]

Corbyn has mass support, thousands of people are backing him and the numbers are growing day by day.

The right wing press and MP's hate the growing support for him and are trying to get him out, they are running scared!

A vote today showed he has 75% of the public vote. Let it go to election, that will be fun, he has grown the Labour membership by 50%, and some think they are suddenly going to switch support and vote for someone else instead? 555

Bullshit!

Got any evidence to back up your claims?

[Laughing Gravy]

I have to say he brought this on himself. He is the leader of the Labour party and could have and should have said, that personally he believed that the country was better out of the EU. He also could have led the party that way, although the unions and businesses were against that. He didn't represent the majourity of the people, as they voted leave, He should have and maybe the mess the labour party is in, wouldn't have happened. I am not for the new labour but Corbyn could have avoided this and I can't see him surviving. As a leader you must believe in what you are doing or you will be caught out. Corbyn was.

One thing seems for sure, that the damage to the labour party could take a few elections, to sought out.

Edited June 29, 2016 by Laughing Gravy

[CarolJadzia]

Corbyn has mass support, thousands of people are backing him and the numbers are growing day by day.

The right wing press and MP's hate the growing support for him and are trying to get him out, they are running scared!

A vote today showed he has 75% of the public vote. Let it go to election, that will be fun, he has grown the Labour membership by 50%, and some think they are suddenly going to switch support and vote for someone else instead? 555

Have you a link to the "75% of the public vote" maybe 75% of the loony left would vote for him?

Not to that one, that was the daily mirror, don't like the gutter press anyway.

You could try this one. Survey is at the bottom. Slightly different results.

http://www.lbc.co.uk/labour-leadership-the-main-contenders--132932

[Basil B]

Corbyn has mass support, thousands of people are backing him and the numbers are growing day by day.

The right wing press and MP's hate the growing support for him and are trying to get him out, they are running scared!

A vote today showed he has 75% of the public vote. Let it go to election, that will be fun, he has grown the Labour membership by 50%, and some think they are suddenly going to switch support and vote for someone else instead? 555

Those who wanted out of the EU think he betrayed them, those who wanted to remain also think he did a "lacklustre" job of campaigning for remain, some even think he sabotaged the campaign.

He only had 40 vote against the no confidence vote, he has 30 shadow cabinet posts and lots of other top job to fill, for his loyal supporters it must be like a raffle where there are more prizes than tickets.

It is "Jerry No Friends"

[vogie]

Corbyn has mass support, thousands of people are backing him and the numbers are growing day by day.

The right wing press and MP's hate the growing support for him and are trying to get him out, they are running scared!

A vote today showed he has 75% of the public vote. Let it go to election, that will be fun, he has grown the Labour membership by 50%, and some think they are suddenly going to switch support and vote for someone else instead? 555

Have you a link to the "75% of the public vote" maybe 75% of the loony left would vote for him?

Not to that one, that was the daily mirror, don't like the gutter press anyway.

You could try this one. Survey is at the bottom. Slightly different results.

http://www.lbc.co.uk/labour-leadership-the-main-contenders--132932

Just tried it, still no wiser.

[ilostmypassword]

Corbyn has mass support, thousands of people are backing him and the numbers are growing day by day.

The right wing press and MP's hate the growing support for him and are trying to get him out, they are running scared!

A vote today showed he has 75% of the public vote. Let it go to election, that will be fun, he has grown the Labour membership by 50%, and some think they are suddenly going to switch support and vote for someone else instead? 555

He may have grown the labour membership but that's a very small percentage of the total electorate. About 400,000. And it's not at all a sure thing that the labour membership is growing.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-party-membership-falling-jeremy-corbyn-2015-general-election-a6951151.html

[Basil B]

Corbyn has mass support, thousands of people are backing him and the numbers are growing day by day.

The right wing press and MP's hate the growing support for him and are trying to get him out, they are running scared!

A vote today showed he has 75% of the public vote. Let it go to election, that will be fun, he has grown the Labour membership by 50%, and some think they are suddenly going to switch support and vote for someone else instead? 555

Have you a link to the "75% of the public vote" maybe 75% of the loony left would vote for him?

It say 75% of the public, not Labour supporters which now must be dwindling in numbers, as you may remember Jeremy was elected because the Labour party opened up the voting with a temporary membership thing, at the time there was suggestions many of these temporary members did not have the true interest of the party in mind, actually it was thought many wanted to wreak the party by voting for Jeremy...

Presume the Labour party will be doing the same thing again as it was a good money spinner.

Edited June 29, 2016 by Basil B

[ilostmypassword]

Corbyn has mass support, thousands of people are backing him and the numbers are growing day by day.

The right wing press and MP's hate the growing support for him and are trying to get him out, they are running scared!

A vote today showed he has 75% of the public vote. Let it go to election, that will be fun, he has grown the Labour membership by 50%, and some think they are suddenly going to switch support and vote for someone else instead? 555

Have you a link to the "75% of the public vote" maybe 75% of the loony left would vote for him?

It say 75% of the public, not Labour supporters which now must be dwindling in numbers, as you may remember Jeremy was elected because the Labour party opened up the voting with a temporary membership thing, at the time there was suggestions many of these temporary members did not have the true interest of the party in mind, actually it was thought many wanted to wreak the party by voting for Jeremy...

Presume the Labour party will be doing the same thing as it was a good money spinner.

I tried finding that 75% figure via google but got nothing.

[Thaiwine]

I thought he had done a u-turn as he was allways anti EU.

After the voting I realised he had indeed remained true to his past beliefs

He was a double agent

[CarolJadzia]

Just tried it, still no wiser.

Maybe the http://www.lbc.co.uk/labour-leadership-the-main-contenders--132932 link does not work in Thailand?

It's currently saying Corbyn has 84% support out of the people who have shown interest. While his contenders all have 2% each.

We will see where this goes. But I know where I would put my money! If I had any!!

[MJP]

Corbyn just can't blithely carry on regardless. The least he has to do is call a Labour leadership election to be held in a timely manner.

[CarolJadzia]

Corbyn just can't blithely carry on regardless. The least he has to do is call a Labour leadership election to be held in a timely manner.

Really?

#‎LegalAdvice‬ suggests the ‪#‎coup‬ against Corbyn is dead in the water -‪#‎keepcorbyn‬

The Labour Party legal advice has said Jeremy Corbyn’s name will automatically be on the ‪#‎BallotPaper‬ if a ‪#‎leadership‬ election is triggered, seriously damaging plotting Labour MPs’ chances of ousting him.

The Labour MPs who want to oust Corbyn have been counting on one thing: that they could keep him off the ballot paper in any leadership contest. If Corbyn failed to get enough nominations from theParliamentary Labour Party to get on the ballot paper, then party members couldn’t vote for him and the tiresome business of‪#‎democracy‬ could be conveniently sidelined.

Or so they thought.

But since the resignations began to fly in the early hours of Sunday morning, the party’s own advice from law firm Doughty Street Chambers has been made public. That advice says:

"The incumbent does not require to be nominated in order to appear on the ballot paper."

With no ‪#‎DemocraticMandate‬ for deposing Corbyn and no solid legal basis for keeping him off the ballot paper, the plotting MPs have one option left if they are to win their power struggle: to ‪#‎HumiliateCorbyn‬into ‪#‎resigning‬. But if Corbyn can brazen it out, as hundreds of thousands of voters and tens of thousands of demonstrators are asking him to, he may yet have the last laugh. While the ‪#‎Blairites‬ commit‪#‎political‬ ‪#‎suicide‬, Corbyn’s opposition cabinet will finally be unified and genuinely ‪#‎progressive‬. And that is what the country desperately needs right now.

https://www.facebook.com/Respect.Unemployed/

Just sharing an opinion.

[MJP]

Corbyn just can't blithely carry on regardless. The least he has to do is call a Labour leadership election to be held in a timely manner.

Really?

#‎LegalAdvice‬ suggests the ‪#‎coup‬ against Corbyn is dead in the water -‪#‎keepcorbyn‬

The Labour Party legal advice has said Jeremy Corbyn’s name will automatically be on the ‪#‎BallotPaper‬ if a ‪#‎leadership‬ election is triggered, seriously damaging plotting Labour MPs’ chances of ousting him.

The Labour MPs who want to oust Corbyn have been counting on one thing: that they could keep him off the ballot paper in any leadership contest. If Corbyn failed to get enough nominations from theParliamentary Labour Party to get on the ballot paper, then party members couldn’t vote for him and the tiresome business of‪#‎democracy‬ could be conveniently sidelined.

Or so they thought.

But since the resignations began to fly in the early hours of Sunday morning, the party’s own advice from law firm Doughty Street Chambers has been made public. That advice says:

"The incumbent does not require to be nominated in order to appear on the ballot paper."

With no ‪#‎DemocraticMandate‬ for deposing Corbyn and no solid legal basis for keeping him off the ballot paper, the plotting MPs have one option left if they are to win their power struggle: to ‪#‎HumiliateCorbyn‬into ‪#‎resigning‬. But if Corbyn can brazen it out, as hundreds of thousands of voters and tens of thousands of demonstrators are asking him to, he may yet have the last laugh. While the ‪#‎Blairites‬ commit‪#‎political‬ ‪#‎suicide‬, Corbyn’s opposition cabinet will finally be unified and genuinely ‪#‎progressive‬. And that is what the country desperately needs right now.

https://www.facebook.com/Respect.Unemployed/

Just sharing an opinion.

He can prove he's so popular by holding an election. What's the worry?

[CarolJadzia]

He can prove he's so popular by holding an election. What's the worry?

Who's worried?

It's just all a distraction.

[MJP]

He can prove he's so popular by holding an election. What's the worry?

Who's worried?

It's just all a distraction.

It really is too. Labour and the bloody Tories have been ripping Blighty apart for their own ends and petty squabbles for years.

This debacle may herald the end of party politics and a move to something far more suitable.

[KarenBravo]

He can prove he's so popular by holding an election. What's the worry?

Who's worried?

It's just all a distraction.

It really is too. Labour and the bloody Tories have been ripping Blighty apart for their own ends and petty squabbles for years.

This debacle may herald the end of party politics and a move to something far more suitable.

Such as?

[Basil B]

Angela Eagle has said her challenge for the Labour leadership is a bid to "heal the party", as leader Jeremy Corbyn urged her to "think again".

"This isn't about splitting, this is about reuniting our party," she said.

Mr Corbyn, elected by Labour members but opposed by many of his own MPs, said he was "disappointed" but would fight the challenge.

-- BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36756975

So tomorrow she will launch her leadership campaign, She has already 50 MP's supporting her, Jeremy has not... he is hoping the Labour's ruling National Executive will allow him without 50 MP's nominations to run again

Angela is probably just a sacrificial lamb (if it all goes wrong blame her), as once the leadership challenge starts others more prominent in the party will put their names forward.

[RuamRudy]

He only had 40 vote against the no confidence vote, he has 30 shadow cabinet posts and lots of other top job to fill, for his loyal supporters it must be like a raffle where there are more prizes than tickets.

It is "Jerry No Friends"

That says more about the sad state of politics in general and the Labour party in particular.

Despite the right-wing nuts and the media doing their damndest to smear and trash Corbyn, his popularity among Labour voters continues to increase. Forget what the voters want, the party has been hijacked by careerists.

[CarolJadzia]

That's the problem when you get all your news from the media these days, it always has it's own agenda, including the "Biased Broadcasting Conspiracy".

What is totally unreported is the huge and growing support that every challenge to Corbyn brings. This is new territory, expect the unexpected.

[KarenBravo]

^&^^

Blimey, you two are just like your illustrious leader.

Delusional and "away with the fairies".

[vogie]

He only had 40 vote against the no confidence vote, he has 30 shadow cabinet posts and lots of other top job to fill, for his loyal supporters it must be like a raffle where there are more prizes than tickets.

It is "Jerry No Friends"

That says more about the sad state of politics in general and the Labour party in particular.

Despite the right-wing nuts and the media doing their damndest to smear and trash Corbyn, his popularity among Labour voters continues to increase. Forget what the voters want, the party has been hijacked by careerists.

Are you refering to the increase in the labours membership to support JC's support?