Gallowspole Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 Scenario 25 years old UK guy working for family construction business for last month. Thus no sign of stable employment. Lives with parents. Is in the UK at present. 22 years old Thai girl working for telecommunication business (her family's) for 1 month. Previously worked in Pattaya in entertainment sector - legit occupation but typical cash in hand salary payment. No land ownership. No money in bank. Her Thai aunty (very wealthy)is buying her the plane ticket and is also going with her for 2 weeks to check out the guy's family. There are no records to confirm the relationship between the two ( aunty & niece). They have known each other since Aug 2001. Have proof of emails and photos but no phone records as done by phonecard. He's been here 4 times. She wants to go to UK to live with him for 6 months. If she likes it then marriage in Thailand and then settle down in UK. UK guy wants to sponser her but he has no proof of previous salary or substantial savings in bank. Chances of any type of visa are nil, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davethailand Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 unless this person is you, this guy's been enquiring about this already, am i right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 Scenario25 years old UK guy working for family construction business for last month. Thus no sign of stable employment. Lives with parents. Is in the UK at present. 22 years old Thai girl working for telecommunication business (her family's) for 1 month. Previously worked in Pattaya in entertainment sector - legit occupation but typical cash in hand salary payment. No land ownership. No money in bank. Her Thai aunty (very wealthy)is buying her the plane ticket and is also going with her for 2 weeks to check out the guy's family. There are no records to confirm the relationship between the two ( aunty & niece). They have known each other since Aug 2001. Have proof of emails and photos but no phone records as done by phonecard. He's been here 4 times. She wants to go to UK to live with him for 6 months. If she likes it then marriage in Thailand and then settle down in UK. UK guy wants to sponser her but he has no proof of previous salary or substantial savings in bank. Chances of any type of visa are nil, right? It does't look as though you are going to impress the decision maker at the Brit Embassy. The time you have known her is ok, but neither of you have a good employment history that might give him / her the courage to grant a six month visa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard W Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 Scenario25 years old UK guy working for family construction business for last month. Thus no sign of stable employment. Lives with parents. Is in the UK at present. 22 years old Thai girl working for telecommunication business (her family's) for 1 month. Previously worked in Pattaya in entertainment sector - legit occupation but typical cash in hand salary payment. No land ownership. No money in bank. Her Thai aunty (very wealthy)is buying her the plane ticket and is also going with her for 2 weeks to check out the guy's family. There are no records to confirm the relationship between the two ( aunty & niece). They have known each other since Aug 2001. Have proof of emails and photos but no phone records as done by phonecard. He's been here 4 times. She wants to go to UK to live with him for 6 months. If she likes it then marriage in Thailand and then settle down in UK. UK guy wants to sponser her but he has no proof of previous salary or substantial savings in bank. Chances of any type of visa are nil, right? It does't look as though you are going to impress the decision maker at the Brit Embassy. The time you have known her is ok, but neither of you have a good employment history that might give him / her the courage to grant a six month visa. I agree it looks tough, but... 1. No chance of a visitor's visa for the girlfriend. Why should she bother going back to Thailand if she's going to live with you in England? I think that forces her to get a fiancée visa. You may have to register the marriage in England and then have the wedding (religious ceremony, guests etc.) in Thailand. Not the usual way round, but it should work. I don't know how long it takes in England from marriage to getting the leave to remain (and permission to work!) for the probationary period. Once she gets that, you can go out together to Thailand and back, no problem. 2. Could she support you in England? How good's her English? Dare she be interviewed for the visa in English? Has she got a degree? What sort of work is she doing? What sort of work was she doing? You would have two periods of financial support to consider: (a) As a fiancée: She would have to live off you, your family, her own savings, or her family' s money. Can you document this capability? ( After marriage: Send her out to work. I haven't looked at the new immigration forms, but the old form IM2B allows the possibility of either partner providing the support. 3. Where are you going to live? With your parents? You'd then need 'exclusive use' of a bedroom. 4. By the time she gets the interview, you will have worked in the firm for several month. The issues will be to demonstrate that: (a) It's a real job, not one invented for the purpose of the visa application. ( You'll stick at it. What have you been doing for the past few years? I'm curious about the lack of evidence of relationship. Can't birth certificates be obtained? (Perhaps Thailand is that chaotic.) Am I too optimistic for 'Gallowspole'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotshot Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Tooooooo optimistic..... It seems like the girl worked in a bar in Pattaya...... And only 1 momths in her family's business.....and this don't count! Why not choose the aunt But yes....it's tough....best, and maybe ONLY possibility is to marry her here in LOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Scenario25 years old UK guy working for family construction business for last month. Thus no sign of stable employment. Lives with parents. Is in the UK at present. 22 years old Thai girl working for telecommunication business (her family's) for 1 month. Previously worked in Pattaya in entertainment sector - legit occupation but typical cash in hand salary payment. No land ownership. No money in bank. Her Thai aunty (very wealthy)is buying her the plane ticket and is also going with her for 2 weeks to check out the guy's family. There are no records to confirm the relationship between the two ( aunty & niece). They have known each other since Aug 2001. Have proof of emails and photos but no phone records as done by phonecard. He's been here 4 times. She wants to go to UK to live with him for 6 months. If she likes it then marriage in Thailand and then settle down in UK. UK guy wants to sponser her but he has no proof of previous salary or substantial savings in bank. Chances of any type of visa are nil, right? It does't look as though you are going to impress the decision maker at the Brit Embassy. The time you have known her is ok, but neither of you have a good employment history that might give him / her the courage to grant a six month visa. My thoughts are the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuestHouse Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 I lived for several years in Pattaya..when I read this.. Previously worked in Pattaya in entertainment sector Liisten up. They are probably doing you a favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard W Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 I lived for several years in Pattaya..when I read this..Previously worked in Pattaya in entertainment sector Liisten up. They are probably doing you a favour. How are they doing him a favour? Aren't visa difficulties (not impossibilities) more likely to precipitate than to prevent marriage? They will, of course, adversely affect the performance of Gallowspole's work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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